2016 Vuelta a España, stage 19: Xàbia > Calp 37km ITT

[Billie]

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shame Froome didn't bother to take time back Wednesday

He couldn't because he had difficulties staying with the other 3.

he had enough energy left to overtake them in the last metres

yoyo doesn't work when he has to take time back

Quintana would have attacked himself not followed Chavez if Quintana would've had smaller lead.

but his lead wasn't smaller

 

[Gigs_98]

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In contrast to last year's TT, Dumoulin must have been off pace for Froome to gap an in form Quintana by this much. Or did the wind play a much more role today?

Dumoulin was shattered.

Quintana was also stronger. I still can't believe he lost that much time today. Compare this to any other ITT performance from him this year.

 

[Frosty]

What was going on with Sammy Sanchez? 93rd at 6.29 when he was well in the top 10 going into it? Down to 12th now.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Unfortunately for those that love drama, it is hard to see tomorrow's stage being tough enough for a real close battle for green. The final climb suits Quintana quite a bit.

I guess we'll just have to settle for a close battle for red then .

That's his problem in a nutshell
- he has no experience in attackin differently
from last robot on the hill.

 

[70kmph]

Too short if it were 80km , Dawgboy would be in red

 

[Walkman]

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40 kms is fine. You put more and you get Wiggins Tour de Frances or Indurain's. So why being a fan of it.

Selective memory much?

2007 was the best race since 2003, which also hade just happened to have a lot of TT-kilometers.

albi had 2 big climbs in it and race was over before the other one already

Not sure what you are trying to say, you don't think 2003 and 2007 was entertaining?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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What was going on with Sammy Sanchez? 93rd at 6.29 when he was well in the top 10 going into it? Down to 12th now.

Fell off camera

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

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In contrast to last year's TT, Dumoulin must have been off pace for Froome to gap an in form Quintana by this much. Or did the wind play a much more role today?

Dumoulin was shattered.

Quintana was also stronger. I still can't believe he lost that much time today. Compare this to any other ITT performance from him this year.

The headwind was stronger today

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Too short if it were 80km , Dawgboy would be in red

IF......

If there only would be a 50km long climb. I'm sure that Quintana would be in red (if he wasn't already).

 

[Frosty]

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What was going on with Sammy Sanchez? 93rd at 6.29 when he was well in the top 10 going into it? Down to 12th now.

Fell off camera

Ah yes, bad luck for him. Was in 9th at the second check at +1:28

 

[dacooley]

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Too short if it were 80km , Dawgboy would be in red

IF......

If there only would be a 50km long climb. I'm sure that Quintana would be in red (if he wasn't already).

froome winning the vuelta would be so terrible?

 

[KyoGrey]

It was Froome who lost 3 min by not being close to Quintana when Contador blasted the Race.

I hope he is able to win the red Jersey tomorrow, though.

 

[barmaher]

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Unfortunately for those that love drama, it is hard to see tomorrow's stage being tough enough for a real close battle for green. The final climb suits Quintana quite a bit.

I guess we'll just have to settle for a close battle for red then .

I suffer from deuteranopia, and I would appreciate it if nobody was cruel about it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Will tomorrow be hard from the get go: People will try to get on the break, but Sky needs the bonus seconds.
Also, what has Orica left now?

I think Chavito will try to go for the stage win. Froome and Quintana won't mind him too much.

 

[DFA123]

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In contrast to last year's TT, Dumoulin must have been off pace for Froome to gap an in form Quintana by this much. Or did the wind play a much more role today?

Dumoulin was shattered.

Quintana was also stronger. I still can't believe he lost that much time today. Compare this to any other ITT performance from him this year.

I guess Quintana rode slightly within himself today. Maybe went at 95% instead of 100% for the first 30km; just to make absolutely sure he didn't blow up. Probably took some of the corners a bit easier as well.

He had such a huge advantage - and still has - that it would have been a criminal error to crash or blow up completely.

 

[Billie]

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40 kms is fine. You put more and you get Wiggins Tour de Frances or Indurain's. So why being a fan of it.

Selective memory much?

2007 was the best race since 2003, which also hade just happened to have a lot of TT-kilometers.

albi had 2 big climbs in it and race was over before the other one already

Not sure what you are trying to say, you don't think 2003 and 2007 was entertaining?

they were good yes but gaps were very small in Albi behind Vino , especially for a 50 km plus TT

 

[Pippo_San]

YAY for old man Scarponi in 7th place GC

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Too short if it were 80km , Dawgboy would be in red

IF......

If there only would be a 50km long climb. I'm sure that Quintana would be in red (if he wasn't already).

froome winning the vuelta would be so terrible?

Not that but to me it seems that Quintana is definitely stronger than Froome in this Vuelta. We all knew that he was going to lose TT anyways but other than that Froome hasn't beaten Quintana.

 

[Gigs_98]

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In contrast to last year's TT, Dumoulin must have been off pace for Froome to gap an in form Quintana by this much. Or did the wind play a much more role today?

Dumoulin was shattered.

Quintana was also stronger. I still can't believe he lost that much time today. Compare this to any other ITT performance from him this year.

The headwind was stronger today

But he lost less in the tdf TT and iirc that TT had headwind too. Moreover Froome was in way better shape there. He dropped Quintana on climbs in the tour too, while he is now clearly weaker in the mountains.

 

[damian13ster]

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Too short if it were 80km , Dawgboy would be in red

IF......

If there only would be a 50km long climb. I'm sure that Quintana would be in red (if he wasn't already).

froome winning the vuelta would be so terrible?

Not that but to me it seems that Quintana is definitely stronger than Froome in this Vuelta. We all knew that he was going to lose TT anyways but other than that Froome hasn't beaten Quintana.

I seem to remember him beating Quintana on MTF and winning a stage?
Froome is still 2nd strongest in this race, but so far 2nd on GC + 2 stages after Tour and Rio? Amazing

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

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What was going on with Sammy Sanchez? 93rd at 6.29 when he was well in the top 10 going into it? Down to 12th now.

Fell off camera

Must have been a big camera. How did he get on it?

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Too short if it were 80km , Dawgboy would be in red

IF......

If there only would be a 50km long climb. I'm sure that Quintana would be in red (if he wasn't already).

froome winning the vuelta would be so terrible?

Not that but to me it seems that Quintana is definitely stronger than Froome in this Vuelta. We all knew that he was going to lose TT anyways but other than that Froome hasn't beaten Quintana.

I seem to remember him beating Quintana on MTF and winning a stage?
Froome is still 2nd strongest in this race, but so far 2nd on GC + 2 stages after Tour and Rio? Amazing

It was a sprint finish and Froome has a edge on these. I have no doubt that Froome is 2nd strongest in this Vuelta as we can also see in the results.

 

[dacooley]

I think that is kind of pay-off for the 2015 Tour for Nairo. in that tour he was marginally stronger than froome and would've won the race if there hadn't been wind split on stage 2 (yes I realize some absurdity of suchlike assumptions and dislike them, but still). bike race is a bike race with all the factors getting involved in the process. that's a fantastic vuelta actually.

 

[Inquitus]

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Too short if it were 80km , Dawgboy would be in red

IF......

If there only would be a 50km long climb. I'm sure that Quintana would be in red (if he wasn't already).

froome winning the vuelta would be so terrible?

Not that but to me it seems that Quintana is definitely stronger than Froome in this Vuelta. We all knew that he was going to lose TT anyways but other than that Froome hasn't beaten Quintana.

Well if not for the Sky Fail the other day Froome would have won the race, therefore you'd have to conclude he is the strongest all around rider in the race no?

 

[damian13ster]

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It was a sprint finish and Froome has a edge on these. I have no doubt that Froome is 2nd strongest in this Vuelta as we can also see in the results.

It was a sprint because he managed not to get dropped by Quintana, and beat Nairo in his only chance (so far) for a stage win. Wouldnt call that insignificant, and it makes your comment incorrect. Just wanted to straighten that out.
Plus he is 2nd strongest in the mountains, not necessarily entire race. We never got to have a chance to see because of stage 15 where he got caught out, and because of misfortune for Landa, Kwiatkowski, Roche and Benat (which would actually negate stage 15, but once front group was gone, missing stronger half of them team made it pretty much impossible to bring back, and that plus the crash causing original split is why I wouldnt blame the team that much)