2017 Volta Ciclista a Catalunya, March 20-26, WT

[Alexandre B.]

Punish them or don't, not something in between.

 

[deValtos]

It wasn't just the one push, I've seen two different videos. If there was some other hidden ones too it can add up. Regardless of whether it helped much anyways it is against the rules it isn't really a "grey area" topic either.

 

[Climber123]

Everyone benefitted no? Is it not a team time trial? Confused

 

[Ricco']

The GC was updated on PCS and now Gogl, Mollema, Zubeldia and Pantano are all with the same time. Contador still further back.

 

[Velolover2]

Looking forward to watch Ben Hermans in action.

Nice position and should be good tomorrow.

 

[Red Rick]

I like this formula. Artificially create huge gaps, then have no terrain where gaps matter for action anyway.

 

[deValtos]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cervelo-testteam-penalised-for-pushing-in-qatar-ttt/

 

[Velolover2]

Forget about Tejay and Dennis. Hermans is punchier and should be the leader for BMC!

 

[zlev11]

this race owns. ridiculous unjustified time gaps, wrongly applied penalties, and horrible stop-motion TV pictures. it's like Ironycycling.

 

[Fernandez]

Re:

Everyone benefitted no? Is it not a team time trial? Confused

This

 

[rick james]

Re:

Valverde still needs to win stage 3 at the very least. And maybe stage 6 and 7 as well.

If Froome is in super-shape he can gain a minute on stage 5.

Sky could also troll Movistar by sending a great marathon rider like Landa in a break.

he isn't.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

I like this formula. Artificially create huge gaps, then have no terrain where gaps matter for action anyway.

:lol:

 

[Velolover2]

Be afraid Valverde, be very afraid. #Hermanshype

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

The GC was updated on PCS and now Gogl, Mollema, Zubeldia and Pantano are all with the same time. Contador still further back.

I'm sure Berto was with the final riders, I saw him, so no worries

 

[Velolover2]

Re: Re:

The GC was updated on PCS and now Gogl, Mollema, Zubeldia and Pantano are all with the same time. Contador still further back.

I'm sure Berto was with the final riders, I saw him, so no worries

Off topic but what do you think about the #Hermanshype, Flo?

 

[vedrafjord]

I hate TTTs.

 

[Fernandez]

Weather is expecting to become worse in the week, and Valverde doesnt like bad weather. Still not everything done for him.

 

[Billie]

when did this supposed push happen?

 

[rhubroma]

European cycling has always been "picturesque," but rulings like this make it seem utterly provincial and farcical.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

The GC was updated on PCS and now Gogl, Mollema, Zubeldia and Pantano are all with the same time. Contador still further back.

I'm sure Berto was with the final riders, I saw him, so no worries

Off topic but what do you think about the #Hermanshype, Flo?

I don't know? He has a good chance to win tomorrow but Lo Port should be too hard. Has a good chance for top-3 though.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Re:

Rojas gets a 3 minute penalty. Valverde is the new leader.


Love the Spanish

This gets posted every time there's a jury decision so I guess it's my turn:

The jury is international and appointed by the UCI. It's not 'the spanish' or 'the italians' or 'the belgians' or anything else. At this particular race the race jury head is italian.

 

[DFA123]

A lot of moaning about the TTT, but when you see a team like Movistar winning it shows it's not all about having a team full of great TTers. Its a very technical and tactical discipline that requires a lot of hours practising to do well in, and the teams who put the work in deserve their rewards imo.

Plus, it's a way to stop teams from just filling their line-up with climbers, who already have far too much of a dominant role in stage races.

 

[Valv.Piti]

The moaning in this thread is funny. When we saw the route we knew this would happen. It might not be to everyones liking, especially a certain segment on this forum, but thats just how the route is. It might open up for some other scenarios and lets remember, the race as it was before wasn't exactly riveting racing either with a couple of shallow MTFs and nothing else.

Give it a chance. Maybe this will make for better racing, who knows.

 

[hrotha]

Re:

Movistar are pretty good in team time trials when push comes to shove.

Edit: Seriously though, no idea if that deserved a punishment, but you can't simply make up your own penalties, I don't care who the judges are.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

A lot of moaning about the TTT, but when you see a team like Movistar winning it shows it's not all about having a team full of great TTers. Its a very technical and tactical discipline that requires a lot of hours practising to do well in, and the teams who put the work in deserve their rewards imo.

Plus, it's a way to stop teams from just filling their line-up with climbers, who already have far too much of a dominant role in stage races.

Actually I'd say Movistar winning proves the opposite. Movistar have Valverde, Amador, Oliveira, Castroviejo, Erviti. The first 4 are great TTers and Erviti is a rouleur. Only BMC had a similar team and we saw that because they finished very close. Rather, I'd point to FDJ, the only clear rouleur/ TTer is Ludvigsson and perhaps Le Bon, and they still achieved a decent result.