2017 Volta Ciclista a Catalunya, March 20-26, WT

[Valv.Piti]

Hold on, its okay to abuse Froome and accuse him of not being able to ride his bike and look dumb. Its not, however, to criticise the half-god that we know who is.

 

[Climber123]

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In this shape he can win La Vuelta for sure.

Will he race Pais Vasco? Because Contador is not going to beat him this year, in no single race.

Why not? That time trial Bala will get destroyed. And he was already beaten by AC in a mountain stage this season.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Valverde is back at 2005 level.

Maybe it's time to visit another part of the forums.

I just did armed with a jens attacks tweet :lol:

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Valverde is back at 2005 level.

Maybe it's time to visit another part of the forums.

I just did armed with a jens attacks tweet :lol:

Let me try to understand this. When Contador puts out 7,0 w/kg on Peille, its stratospheric, worldclass and the best that ever happened to mankind.

When Valverde puts out 6,6 w/kg on Caro (which is about the same level considering the length of the climb compared to Peille, pretty much), its ridiculous, *** and laughable and you what what we aren't allowed to talk about in here. Only cause you adore and love Contador to the point I've never seen and hate Valverde as much as Froome.

Sometimes you make me sick. I probably shouldn't have added that last sentence, but man.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Golden balls needs to lose another 2 kilos yet, that was the difference today. A half fit Froome and pensioner Piti showed him who's the boss. Just wait til PV, he'll be back.

 

[rhubroma]

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Valverde is back at 2005 level.

Maybe it's time to visit another part of the forums.

These were my sentiments exactly, actually, climbing wise he is even better. :surprised: At nearly 37 years old his battery charge gets better and better. And to think, he's not even the top climber in his team oh my.

Either Froome is a long way off top form, or else Valverde might be the man to beat at the Tour, considering Quintana is doing the Giro. It's ridiculous.

Edit: Valverde is, or isn't riding the Tour? I can't remember.

 

[rei_da_montanha]

And Soler? Great performance.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Let me try to understand this. When Contador puts out 7,0 w/kg on Peille, its stratospheric, worldclass and the best that ever happened to mankind.

When Valverde puts out 6,6 w/kg on Caro (which is about the same level considering the length of the climb compared to Peille, pretty much), its ridiculous, ****** and laughable and you what what we aren't allowed to talk about in here. Only cause you adore and love Contador to the point I've never seen and hate Valverde as much as Froome.

Sometimes you make me sick. I probably shouldn't have added that last sentence, but man.

I tried to ignore your silly posts but I guess I'll have to respond.

Contador put out 6.8 on Peille for 15 minutes, halfway through the stage, but yes that's a lot and I don't think anyone believes he did it cleanly. Valverde did 6.6W/kg for 25 minutes after a long stage. He is exempt from criticism?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Golden balls needs to lose another 2 kilos yet, that was the difference today. A half fit Froome and pensioner Piti showed him who's the boss. Just wait til PV, he'll be back.

I assume "golden balls" is Contador, that's an odd nickname, never heard it before. Is that what the Sky droolers call him?

 

[roundabout]

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Valverde is back at 2005 level.

Maybe it's time to visit another part of the forums.

I just did armed with a jens attacks tweet :lol:

Let me try to understand this. When Contador puts out 7,0 w/kg on Peille, its stratospheric, worldclass and the best that ever happened to mankind.

When Valverde puts out 6,6 w/kg on Caro (which is about the same level considering the length of the climb compared to Peille, pretty much), its ridiculous, ****** and laughable and you what what we aren't allowed to talk about in here. Only cause you adore and love Contador to the point I've never seen and hate Valverde as much as Froome.

Sometimes you make me sick. I probably shouldn't have added that last sentence, but man.

I actually think it's quite funny that Contador fans of all people are the ones screaming clinic.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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And Soler? Great performance.

Yeah, that was amazing. Great showing by some youngsters today. Soler, Gaudu, Carthy.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Let me try to understand this. When Contador puts out 7,0 w/kg on Peille, its stratospheric, worldclass and the best that ever happened to mankind.

When Valverde puts out 6,6 w/kg on Caro (which is about the same level considering the length of the climb compared to Peille, pretty much), its ridiculous, ****** and laughable and you what what we aren't allowed to talk about in here. Only cause you adore and love Contador to the point I've never seen and hate Valverde as much as Froome.

Sometimes you make me sick. I probably shouldn't have added that last sentence, but man.

I tried to ignore your silly posts but I guess I'll have to respond.

Contador put out 6.8 on Peille for 15 minutes, halfway through the stage, but yes that's a lot and I don't think anyone believes he did it cleanly. Valverde did 6.6W/kg for 25 minutes after a long stage. He is exempt from criticism?

I've tried to contain my frustration reading your silly posts as well, but its impossible at this point so needed to let go of my frustration. Like you do on twitter when the race doesn't pan out as you'd like. Oh boy the horror.

Take that talk to the clinic, Im not talking about doping. Im talking about the way you are phrasing what Contador did in Nice contrary what Valverde did in Catalunya. I hope you are able to see it

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I actually think it's quite funny that Contador fans of all people are the ones screaming clinic.

Isn't it normal? Your team wins a TTT by pushing teammates, you say nothing, your team loses to a team pushing teammates, you cry foul. Yes?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Take that talk to the clinic, Im not talking about doping. Im talking about the way you are phrasing what Contador did in Nice contrary what Valverde did in Catalunya. I hope you are able to see it

No, I don't see it. If you mean that my reaction to Valverde's crazy numbers isn't as enthusiastic as my reaction to Contador's crazy numbers, well, what did you expect?

 

[Forever The Best]

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Let me try to understand this. When Contador puts out 7,0 w/kg on Peille, its stratospheric, worldclass and the best that ever happened to mankind.

When Valverde puts out 6,6 w/kg on Caro (which is about the same level considering the length of the climb compared to Peille, pretty much), its ridiculous, ****** and laughable and you what what we aren't allowed to talk about in here. Only cause you adore and love Contador to the point I've never seen and hate Valverde as much as Froome.

Sometimes you make me sick. I probably shouldn't have added that last sentence, but man.

I tried to ignore your silly posts but I guess I'll have to respond.

Contador put out 6.8 on Peille for 15 minutes, halfway through the stage, but yes that's a lot and I don't think anyone believes he did it cleanly. Valverde did 6.6W/kg for 25 minutes after a long stage. He is exempt from criticism?

I've tried to contain my frustration reading your silly posts as well, but its impossible at this point so needed to let go of my frustration. Like you do on twitter when the race doesn't pan out as you'd like.

Take that talk to the clinic, Im not talking about doping. Im talking about the way you are phrasing what Contador did in Nice contrary what Valverde did in Catalunya. I hope you are able to see it

While Valv did 6.6 W/Kg for 25 minutes, Contador was 13 seconds behind so his peformance was quite high as well. Also the stage was a -----/ MTF which meant that the riders were fresh going to the climb, though there were some echelons.
Also Contador made the race that day in Nice, he did what he had to do to win, attacked from far out and he gave us an epic stage, so he was obviously praised.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Valverde is back at 2005 level.

Maybe it's time to visit another part of the forums.

I just did armed with a jens attacks tweet :lol:

Let me try to understand this. When Contador puts out 7,0 w/kg on Peille, its stratospheric, worldclass and the best that ever happened to mankind.

When Valverde puts out 6,6 w/kg on Caro (which is about the same level considering the length of the climb compared to Peille, pretty much), its ridiculous, ****** and laughable and you what what we aren't allowed to talk about in here. Only cause you adore and love Contador to the point I've never seen and hate Valverde as much as Froome.

Sometimes you make me sick. I probably shouldn't have added that last sentence, but man.

I actually think it's quite funny that Contador fans of all people are the ones screaming clinic.

The funny part is they are only screaming clinic when he is beaten. Otherwise, they don't.

 

[Forever The Best]

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Valverde is back at 2005 level.

Maybe it's time to visit another part of the forums.

I just did armed with a jens attacks tweet :lol:

Let me try to understand this. When Contador puts out 7,0 w/kg on Peille, its stratospheric, worldclass and the best that ever happened to mankind.

When Valverde puts out 6,6 w/kg on Caro (which is about the same level considering the length of the climb compared to Peille, pretty much), its ridiculous, ****** and laughable and you what what we aren't allowed to talk about in here. Only cause you adore and love Contador to the point I've never seen and hate Valverde as much as Froome.

Sometimes you make me sick. I probably shouldn't have added that last sentence, but man.

I actually think it's quite funny that Contador fans of all people are the ones screaming clinic.

The funny part is they are only screaming clinic when he is beaten. Otherwise, they don't.

I saw some Contador fans celebrating his Pais Vasco win last year on clinic but whatever.

 

[rhubroma]

Evidently this was a relatively "easy" mountain stage, because Valverde is an explosive climber who can win races like LBL as well, whereas he clearly suffers (as physiologically should be the case) on mulitple pass stages, as we saw in the Giro last year.

Still it was really sensational that he was able to ride away from Froome and Contador like that today at nearly 37 years old. Certainly impressive, though perplexing.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Take that talk to the clinic, Im not talking about doping. Im talking about the way you are phrasing what Contador did in Nice contrary what Valverde did in Catalunya. I hope you are able to see it

No, I don't see it. If you mean that my reaction to Valverde's crazy numbers isn't as enthusiastic as my reaction to Contador's crazy numbers, well, what did you expect?

Contador's great numbers: stratospheric, amazing, incredible etc.
Valverde's great numbers: ridicolous, bull, clinic, laughable etc.

Meanwhile, Contador finished 13 seconds down. Probably did what, 6,55 w/kg compared to Valverde's 6,6 w/kg?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Take that talk to the clinic, Im not talking about doping. Im talking about the way you are phrasing what Contador did in Nice contrary what Valverde did in Catalunya. I hope you are able to see it

No, I don't see it. If you mean that my reaction to Valverde's crazy numbers isn't as enthusiastic as my reaction to Contador's crazy numbers, well, what did you expect?

Contador's great numbers: stratospheric, amazing, incredible etc.
Valverde's great numbers: ridicolous, bull, clinic, laughable etc.

Meanwhile, Contador finished 13 seconds down. Probably did what, 6,55 w/kg compared to Valverde's 6,6 w/kg?

Both are ridiculous but I get excited when Contador is ridiculous. Logical, yes? It's the same, just the other way around for you.

As for Contador finishing "only" 13 seconds down: Valverde doesn't often drop Contador mano a mano on long climbs, does he? Besides, Valverde seemed to be playing with him, who knows how big the gap would have been if he had gone 2 km earlier.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

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Edit: Valverde is, or isn't riding the Tour? I can't remember.

Yes, he will.

Indurain, Itzulia, Ardennes, Tour is confirmed. I guess, he will also add Dauphiné and Nationals.

He has won so many stage races in Spain, but not Pais Vasco...insane numbers.

5xVuelta a Andalucía
3xVuelta a Murcia (as a stage race)
2xVuelta a Burgos
2xVuelta a Castilla y León
2xVuelta Ciclista a la Comunidad Valenciana
1xVuelta a España
1xVolta a Catalunya ... will add another one

https://www.cyclingranking.com/Riders/Overall

In this ranking he might enter the Top Ten.

 

[DFA123]

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And Soler? Great performance.

Yeah, that was amazing. Great showing by some youngsters today. Soler, Gaudu, Carthy.

Just seen that Carthy only lost a minute to Valverde? How the hell did he limit it to that? He was dropped after about 4km and he's riding for Cannondale - he should have lost about ten minutes. Very impressive pacing.

 

[dutchdescent]

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Feel sorry for Tejay.

Have to say, Froome is the single most annoying and frustrating rider to watch. His horrible style, the washing machine legs, the constant yo-yo-ing...

I don't get you Fleur. Horrible style, washing machine legs and yo yo are things you don't NEED to like. It appears effective for Chris as it is appears effective for Alberto to ride out of the saddle. I can understand it won't fit your taste of what you deem aesthetically pleasing and that's fair enough. But to then make the leap and call someone an annoying and frustrating rider to watch is just childish. It's bike racing. In today's case, the point was to race up the mountain in the most effective manner. If that's seated and spinning for Chris then so what? No one's calling out Alberto for being out the saddle too often to their liking now are they? If you can't live with Froome competing like that, then better take up watching ballet or something as you will know by now he won't bother about the style police's verdict. From what I read on this forum over the years, (yes I lurk more than post :lol: ), you have a lot of knowledge of the professional cycling scene and the riders, and often make very valid points and provide insightful and funny information. But your love for Alberto seems at times, to make you a bit psychotic about some of his rivals and spewing your revulsion discredits and undermines no one else but your own presence on this forum. I mean, after a vomit like that, no one is going to suddenly think: 'Ah she's right!' 'What an insightful statement she just made!' You'll only antagonise people and I can't believe that is what you truly want for yourself (hence the bother to write this post). So bring back the Fleur that's full of adoration for her prince on two wheels and leave the other riders for what they are; bike racing rivals, not ballerinas. Cheers and have a good weekend!

 

[dacooley]

given long standing hype procession, saying goodbye to bertie's era would be really painful. it was quite obvious last season yet. the only thing I don't understand is why he's trying to win so hard. damn, it's just a volta catalunya, training race. it's not necessarily to stomp your authority over the rest. the tour is what really matters. all the other races should be a pure build-up. valverde and froome do as usual showing nothing special. contador keeps sabotaging himself.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Take that talk to the clinic, Im not talking about doping. Im talking about the way you are phrasing what Contador did in Nice contrary what Valverde did in Catalunya. I hope you are able to see it

No, I don't see it. If you mean that my reaction to Valverde's crazy numbers isn't as enthusiastic as my reaction to Contador's crazy numbers, well, what did you expect?

Contador's great numbers: stratospheric, amazing, incredible etc.
Valverde's great numbers: ridicolous, bull, clinic, laughable etc.

Meanwhile, Contador finished 13 seconds down. Probably did what, 6,55 w/kg compared to Valverde's 6,6 w/kg?

Both are ridiculous but I get excited when Contador is ridiculous. Logical, yes? It's the same, just the other way around for you.

As for Contador finishing "only" 13 seconds down: Valverde doesn't often drop Contador mano a mano on long climbs, does he? Besides, Valverde seemed to be playing with him, who knows how big the gap would have been if he had gone 2 km earlier.

Apparently you still don't get it.

Its the way you spew your dislike for certain riders (Froome, Valverde etc.) when they are beating Contador thats extremely frustrating. Can't you see it?