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Alexandre B. said:
Matteo Trentin
Elia Viviani
Sonny Colbrelli
Diego Ulissi
Gianni Moscon
Alberto Bettiol
Alessandro De Marchi
Daniele Bennati
Salvatore Puccio
Extremely strong on paper but this squad might really have the problem of too many leaders. I mean they have 3 sprinters (viviani if the race is extremely easy, colbrelli if the race is easy and trentin if the race was quite hard) and then they have ulissi who just won a wt classic and will probably want to have a free role as well (which makes sense considering how great the course suits him) So you have 4 riders who probably won't be happy to work for someone else. However if there is one team which has to try to control the race it is italy because they are probably the strongest team hoping for a sprint while other strong teams like Belgium or france will do everything to avoid a sprint
 
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Dumoulin to win both ITT and RR and win the Velo d'Or. Then he goes and wins Lombardia. Yeah, I said it.

Honestly though, Sagan will have five guys, but how many will last til the final three laps? It's hard to look past him but if other teams have some race intelligence they will isolate him and attack him relentlessly.

Nobody. There is no difference between 3 or 6 people for Slovakia. It will be filled by some proconti guys. Last two championships were ride for Sagan favour more than usual. He has no team at all when he rides for NT. He is favourite obviously but his best chance is wait for reduced bunch sprint imo ans try to beat Kristoff, Dege, Demare, Trentin etc. That climb is too far to try it solo and we would see usual scenario for him. But I know he will be attacking at that climb for sure:D Besides sprinters guys like Kwiato, Greg or Ala could win in similar style lile this year San Remo.

I think Juray will be there in the finale
 
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Durden93 said:
Keram said:
jsem94 said:
Dumoulin to win both ITT and RR and win the Velo d'Or. Then he goes and wins Lombardia. Yeah, I said it.

Honestly though, Sagan will have five guys, but how many will last til the final three laps? It's hard to look past him but if other teams have some race intelligence they will isolate him and attack him relentlessly.

Nobody. There is no difference between 3 or 6 people for Slovakia. It will be filled by some proconti guys. Last two championships were ride for Sagan favour more than usual. He has no team at all when he rides for NT. He is favourite obviously but his best chance is wait for reduced bunch sprint imo ans try to beat Kristoff, Dege, Demare, Trentin etc. That climb is too far to try it solo and we would see usual scenario for him. But I know he will be attacking at that climb for sure:D Besides sprinters guys like Kwiato, Greg or Ala could win in similar style lile this year San Remo.

I think Juray will be there in the finale

Are you joking right? No way he can survive the hell that Belgium will make there. I think he won't be with Sagan already in round 7 or 8.
 
Cummings withdraws from the TT, peed off that he wasn't in the RR team. Geoghegan Hart replaces him. (BBC)


You know we are still a minority interest sport when the radio sports news on BBC gave this out as "British Cycling announce that Cummings has withdrawn from the Team Time Trial": they really don't have a clue.
 
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Gigs_98 said:
Alexandre B. said:
Matteo Trentin
Elia Viviani
Sonny Colbrelli
Diego Ulissi
Gianni Moscon
Alberto Bettiol
Alessandro De Marchi
Daniele Bennati
Salvatore Puccio
Extremely strong on paper but this squad might really have the problem of too many leaders. I mean they have 3 sprinters (viviani if the race is extremely easy, colbrelli if the race is easy and trentin if the race was quite hard) and then they have ulissi who just won a wt classic and will probably want to have a free role as well (which makes sense considering how great the course suits him) So you have 4 riders who probably won't be happy to work for someone else. However if there is one team which has to try to control the race it is italy because they are probably the strongest team hoping for a sprint while other strong teams like Belgium or france will do everything to avoid a sprint
De Marchi, Puccio and Bennati are pure domestiques. Viviani if easy, and Colbrelli and Trentin if harder. I don't know why you think Colbrelli can't deal with harder races considering that is all he does; maybe because he had an awful Tour? Ulissi with a free role to follow any moves he wishes, Moscon with a free role/super teammate and Bettiol likewise. Viviani won't be protected, he'll have a free role and be expected to fend for himself from what Cassani has said in the past.
 
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Moscon and Bettiol will follow the moves but won't work, i think. They are super strong and will be a pain in the *** for the teams who want to make the race hard. I think this role is called stopper in italian.
I think they'll follow moves before the last lap (maybe De Marchi too) and then Ulissi will follow in the last lap, and only work if the group contains worse sprinters than him. Or at least I imagine that'll be the plan.
 
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yaco said:
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Italy has for a long time worked very well as team. When they need some of the riders to sacrifice themselves for their teammates, it will happen.

100% correct - Occasionally they'll miss an important break but their committment to the team is unquestioned.


Its not the team, its the country.. Same for all Nations with big cultural heritage, US is more of an ideology of freedom than cultural heritage but they rank up there as well :D
 
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Monte said:
yaco said:
Netserk said:
Italy has for a long time worked very well as team. When they need some of the riders to sacrifice themselves for their teammates, it will happen.

100% correct - Occasionally they'll miss an important break but their committment to the team is unquestioned.


Its not the team, its the country.. Same for all Nations with big cultural heritage, US is more of an ideology of freedom than cultural heritage but they rank up there as well :D

If it was really the country, the italian national team wouldn't be renowned for infighting and self-sabotage for decades, until Ballerini took over and finally fixed it. Hell, even in Ballerini's first Worlds as coach they still self-sabotaged a world title that looked certain.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
Monte said:
yaco said:
Netserk said:
Italy has for a long time worked very well as team. When they need some of the riders to sacrifice themselves for their teammates, it will happen.

100% correct - Occasionally they'll miss an important break but their committment to the team is unquestioned.


Its not the team, its the country.. Same for all Nations with big cultural heritage, US is more of an ideology of freedom than cultural heritage but they rank up there as well :D

If it was really the country, the italian national team wouldn't be renowned for infighting and self-sabotage for decades, until Ballerini took over and finally fixed it. Hell, even in Ballerini's first Worlds as coach they still self-sabotaged a world title that looked certain.

Paolo Bettini ruled with different people at hand, and Italy has always had this infighting thats why the boss is so important in Italy.. They are always dominating, not always winning; big difference.
 
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Agreed. It's funny, most times they were the team that tried to make the race hard, this time it will be the opposite.
Nope, in and Interview with La Gazzetta Cassani said that they won't lead the bunch for a single meter, so they'll probably try to haave a rider in every single move.
Colbrelli is probably praying for Rain and a hard race.