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Brother Adam lost 4s/km to Dumoulin in the two ITTs last year. Other climbers such as Quintana or Pinot lost 3.5s/km in the first one and 3s/km in the last one.
Rollthedice said:
Brother Adam lost 4s/km to Dumoulin in the two ITTs last year. Other climbers such as Quintana or Pinot lost 3.5s/km in the first one and 3s/km in the last one.
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He said he was not feeling well Sunday after his crash the day before. Don't know if he's fully recovered.Jspear said:
I'd wait until after the Zoncolan before making TT projections.
Can Yates punch away on the final wall? Probably yes. But I doubt that the time he can gain will matter in the end.
Can Yates punch away on the final wall? Probably yes. But I doubt that the time he can gain will matter in the end.
Should be a fun stage. There is a some probability of rain, but not much. I'm backing Battaglin for this one!
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Well, here's to hope you are right, altho Im never gonna root for the kid.
A diesel climber from South Africa sounds very appealing so I rooted for Meintjens. I actually rooted for him up until the Tour in 2017 when I then realised what type of rider he actually was and that I couldn't associate myself with such a bland rider!Libertine Seguros said:
Well, here's to hope you are right, altho Im never gonna root for the kid.
What do you guys think about this triple or tomorrow? Not really locks or anything but the odds are pretty good so why not try for few cents
Bennett over Pozzovivo - 2.8
Carapaz over Dumo - 2.4
Yates over Pinot - 1.45
@9.74
Formolo ftw tomorrow! He has nothing to lose and I could see him trying a solo attack on Costa del Borgo. Bilbao will also be interesting to me. If it were any other GT I would expect a sprint out of 20-30 men group with Ulissi/Wellens/Battaglin/Conti/Yates emerging victorious, but this is Giro, this is going to be chaotic AF especially after what we saw today
Bennett over Pozzovivo - 2.8
Carapaz over Dumo - 2.4
Yates over Pinot - 1.45
@9.74
Formolo ftw tomorrow! He has nothing to lose and I could see him trying a solo attack on Costa del Borgo. Bilbao will also be interesting to me. If it were any other GT I would expect a sprint out of 20-30 men group with Ulissi/Wellens/Battaglin/Conti/Yates emerging victorious, but this is Giro, this is going to be chaotic AF especially after what we saw today
Filottrano, hometown of Michele Scarponi - climb has sprint bonus at top (!) - Astana to go for it?
Yates is fav, but it's a real roller coaster finish. Whoever saved some energy from today has a chance in a breakaway.
Yates is fav, but it's a real roller coaster finish. Whoever saved some energy from today has a chance in a breakaway.
I wonder how much MS want to rest after today and if other teams will attack to try and take advantage to isolate Yates.
Bentacur to attack and win with noone responding because they think it is a dream.
Bentacur to attack and win with noone responding because they think it is a dream.
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Yates over Pinot looks like a sure bet. I got 1.40, but still think it's good value.
Gerrard Slipped haha said:
Yates over Pinot looks like a sure bet. I got 1.40, but still think it's good value.
A lot wll depend on positioning into the finale. I'm not sure MS are going to be strong enough tomorrow to set Yates up.
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I would be very wary of taking such short odds given there is a strong chance the GC guys won't be sprinting it out. If the stage win and time bonuses were likely to be available, or if Yates could gap Pinot, then sure, but neither of those are likely, meaning the GC guys probably coast to the line close together (bearing in mind the last 400 metres is flat). In those circumstances I wouldn't want any part of $1.40.
Bennett over Pozzovivo is a nice enough price though, partly for the same reasoning - namely, they will probably finish in the same group with no one being concerned about who finished in front of the other, making $2.80 pretty attractive.
fantomas said:
I would be very wary of taking such short odds given there is a strong chance the GC guys won't be sprinting it out. If the stage win and time bonuses were likely to be available, or if Yates could gap Pinot, then sure, but neither of those are likely, meaning the GC guys probably coast to the line close together (bearing in mind the last 400 metres is flat). In those circumstances I wouldn't want any part of $1.40.
Bennett over Pozzovivo is a nice enough price though, partly for the same reasoning - namely, they will probably finish in the same group with no one being concerned about who finished in front of the other, making $2.80 pretty attractive.
Who thinks that they can win? Who needs a win to make this campaign worthwhile? That could spell the doom for the BOD.
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Yates going for the gap is highly likely. At least I think so. We'll see.
I'm not putting my life savings at stake, just betting for fun.
The Barb said:
Yates going for the gap is highly likely. At least I think so. We'll see.
I'm not putting my life savings at stake, just betting for fun.
Astana will be looking to get at least one into the break, for both the teams competition and a stage win.
Lopez - no, obviously.
Bilbao - too high on GC (even though he attacked yesterday).
LLS - always possible, but tried hard yesterday and could be looking for a more quiet day.
Villella - has tried repeatedly and been unimpressive.
Kangert - possibly, but very valuable domestique if needed by MAL.
Hirt - possibly, but better placed in genuine mountain stages.
Zeits - never wins races.
which leaves Alexey Lutsenko, who soft-pedalled home yesterday, 25 minutes down, as the last Astana finisher. Not to mention that this kind of profile is just the type on which he can thrive (not dissimilar to Vuelta stage win last year).
There, talked myself into him at 50-1.
Lopez - no, obviously.
Bilbao - too high on GC (even though he attacked yesterday).
LLS - always possible, but tried hard yesterday and could be looking for a more quiet day.
Villella - has tried repeatedly and been unimpressive.
Kangert - possibly, but very valuable domestique if needed by MAL.
Hirt - possibly, but better placed in genuine mountain stages.
Zeits - never wins races.
which leaves Alexey Lutsenko, who soft-pedalled home yesterday, 25 minutes down, as the last Astana finisher. Not to mention that this kind of profile is just the type on which he can thrive (not dissimilar to Vuelta stage win last year).
There, talked myself into him at 50-1.
It would seem that the only sensible thing to do here is to fork out hundreds of dollars, covering a quarter of the field
Wellens and Battaglin amongst the favourites. Kangert, Lutsenko and Kruizeger (just cause I like him) for outsiders.
Wellens and Battaglin amongst the favourites. Kangert, Lutsenko and Kruizeger (just cause I like him) for outsiders.
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Oh you poor soul. Sorry for corrupting you by referring very briefly to odds in the context of discussion about who will win. Best not mention individual riders either, cause of course that’s a subject for the individual rider threads.
Popchu said:
Oh you poor soul. Sorry for corrupting you by referring very briefly to odds in the context of discussion about who will win. Best not mention individual riders either, cause of course that’s a subject for the individual rider threads.
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