2019 Critérium du Dauphiné stage 5 Boën - Voiron 201 km

[Keram]

I am seriously started to think he could be contender for green this TDF. Especially with less pan flat stages than usual. Could be good duel with Sagan if he will be in proper shape.

 

[memyselfandI]

He is not as explosive as young Sagan but better tt'er, he is going for a super classics rider. Then again VdP..

 

[movingtarget]

Nice two days for Van Aert. Bennett ran out of team mates.

 

[happytramp]

Possibly a harder finish than expected.

 

[memyselfandI]

For sure he's serious contender for a green jersey, but what is main goal for Jumbo team?

 

[shalgo]

Re:

I am seriously started to think he could be contender for green this TDF. Especially with less pan flat stages than usual. Could be good duel with Sagan if he will be in proper shape.

Won't Groenewegen be Jumbo's man for the mass sprints?

 

[spalco]

Re:

For sure he's serious contender for a green jersey, but what is main goal for Jumbo team?

Sprint stages with Groenewegen I suppose, then GC for Kruijswijk? Difficult to fit a green jersey challenge in there.

If I was DS I suppose I would tell Van Aert to do whatever the *** he wants and see what happens.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

For sure he's serious contender for a green jersey, but what is main goal for Jumbo team?

Sprint stages with Groenewegen I suppose, then GC for Kruijswijk? Difficult to fit a green jersey challenge in there.

If I was DS I suppose I would tell Van Aert to do whatever the **** he wants and see what happens.

Flat finishes 100% work for Groenewegen come on.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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Then again VdP..

What about van der Poel?

 

[spalco]

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Flat finishes 100% work for Groenewegen come on.

Yeah, guess he'll have to do some work for Groenewegen, but it's not unprecedented for someone in the leadout to ride on and get top10 stage finishes too.

 

[Leinster]

Re: Re:

I am seriously started to think he could be contender for green this TDF. Especially with less pan flat stages than usual. Could be good duel with Sagan if he will be in proper shape.

Won't Groenewegen be Jumbo's man for the mass sprints?

Just because he leads Groenewegen out, doesn't mean he has to stop pedalling.

[quote="JosephK":b1n99s1x]What the Wout?!!!! Is WVA the new Sagan? Wondering what he can do in the TDF, now.

I suggested yesterday he might be the new Seán Kelly... TT and bunch sprint winner... I was not believed. [/quote]

Let's see how he does in the mountains the next 3 days. Has he raced in the high mountains at all yet?

If he wins at Pipay, the betting for him in the Tour will be closed.


Sagan watching today's sprint; "***. He's going to be at the Tour."
MvdP watching today's sprint; "***. He's going to be at the Tour."

 

[Screecher]

A green jersey challenge is not realistic at all for Van Aert. It's going to be his first ever grand tour, we don't know how he'll do in the high mountains and he's not going to be their team leader.

 

[Keram]

Re: Re:

I am seriously started to think he could be contender for green this TDF. Especially with less pan flat stages than usual. Could be good duel with Sagan if he will be in proper shape.

Won't Groenewegen be Jumbo's man for the mass sprints?

Yeah I kinda forgot about him.

 

[Bolder]

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Puting up my speed bike for sale and in the market for a CX bike...

Ha, that's what I thought yesterday after the ITT. He's flying right now.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Great sprint Wout, terrible finale by Bora.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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@DeGendtThomas
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A green jersey challenge is not realistic at all for Van Aert. It's going to be his first ever grand tour, we don't know how he'll do in the high mountains and he's not going to be their team leader.

Mountains won't be the problem for him. But while he is faster than 85% of the peloton, he is also slower than basically all of the "true" sprinters, including Sagan, Kristoff, Degenkolb, MvdP, Trentin etc. The sprinting line up in the Dauphiné is just weak (just like the ITT field), and the only reason he won today was that Bora's train got derailed by Boason Hagen. So, if he wanted to go for green, he would probably need to gather the points with 6th-10th places. It's basically the same as saying Naesen going for green.

 

[Screecher]

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Great sprint Wout, terrible finale by Bora.

They did what they could but Bennett lost a lot of speed in that last corner and there wasn't enough road left for him to beat Van Aert.

 

[Wvv]

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Could be Wout again.

 

[Jagartrott]

His positioning is quite impressive, seeing his relative lack of experience in this kind of thing. He did that very well in the earlier sprint and again now. Compare that to Hodeg and Greipel for instance...

 

[memyselfandI]

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Then again VdP..

What about van der Poel?

MvdP is two-three cliks faster sprinter than WvA..

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

Then again VdP..

What about van der Poel?

MvdP is two-three cliks faster sprinter than WvA..

Sure. And Wout will find himself with many 2nd and 3rd places because of that. But he will also win plenty of races, regardless of Mathieu being faster. Sagan didn't win every classic, as people predicted 8 years ago. Neither will Mathieu. Or Wout. Or Bettiol...

Seven years ago, people predicted Mathieu would make a clean sweep in CX. Yet of the last 6 world championships they raced, Wout won 4. Mathieu winning Amstel was great, it doesn't mean he'll win every classic or that Wout has no chance in winning.

 

[Robert5091]

Chapeau Van Aert! - In the right place at the right time and had just enough to hold off Bennett. Jumbo have a real headache now - to fit Van Aert in their GT plans.