2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 131 km

[ppanther92]

Carapaz was climbing like a god today and yesterday. I am impressed. Certainly looks well for Movistar as they probably have the two best climbers in the race.

 

[46&twoWheels]

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wonder who Nibali will be pissed off with now!

actually nobody. He just said to RAI he was happy Roglic helped today. He was also grateful to Caruso for his amazing job and said there are many contenders. A 30 seconds fresh reaction

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

As crazy as it sounds, but this might be it. After today does anyone see Nibali or Roglic drop Carapaz? I surely don't. Carapaz only needs a few more seconds of buffer before the final TT and I'm pretty confident he will get those. It's obviously all far from over but I'd say Carapaz now is the clear favorite.
Can you blieve that? After all the big names entering the giro it could be freakin Richard Carapaz winning it.

 

[JosephK]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

I wonder if Roglic caught whatever illness sidelined his teammate De Plus? Looked like he was knackered at the end, very much a surprise after the position he was in at the top of the hard climb with about 25 km left. The big favorite now has to be Carapaz. Still a small gap to Roglic, but it looks like he is fading. Nibali will have almost 2 minutes to close. Doesn't look good for him.

 

[BullsFan22]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

Get off of Roglic. This is really his first GT where he is considered a favorite or one of the strongest bets for the overall, whereas Nibali has been there for a decade +. Roglic also has a weaker team, he's been isolated for many of the key climbs so far in the Giro and he has to defend everything by himself as a result. If he starts marking everything by himself, he's going to pay for that later and he'll lose everything. Nibali has a comparatively much stronger team, perhaps he should work with his team. If Roglic had worked hard to go after each attack, people would be calling him naive and stupid with for the boneheaded moves of covering every attack and wasting his energy. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Brullnux]

Carapaz is the best climber right now yes but who knows when has the strongest rider at stage 14 in the last five years actually won the giro, or not lost a significant amount of time? At this point Yates is going to win

 

[Bolder]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

I wonder if Roglic caught whatever illness sidelined his teammate De Plus? Looked like he was knackered at the end, very much a surprise after the position he was in at the top of the hard climb with about 25 km left. The big favorite now has to be Carapaz. Still a small gap to Roglic, but it looks like he is fading. Nibali will have almost 2 minutes to close. Doesn't look good for him.

I was less surprised that Roglic wasn't in better form than I was that Nibali couldn't go with Carapaz. Nibali sure barked a lot at Roglic -- unjustly, imo -- but when it came down to it, he missed a chance to take back some serious time.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

As crazy as it sounds, but this might be it. After today does anyone see Nibali or Roglic drop Carapaz? I surely don't. Carapaz only needs a few more seconds of buffer before the final TT and I'm pretty confident he will get those. It's obviously all far from over but I'd say Carapaz now is the clear favorite.
Can you blieve that? After all the big names entering the giro it could be freakin Richard Carapaz winning it.

The stupidity of losing 1'24" on the last climb though.

At least Movistar will control things from now on. Astana 2015 level.

 

[BullsFan22]

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wonder who Nibali will be pissed off with now!

actually nobody. He just said to RAI he was happy Roglic helped today. He was also grateful to Caruso for his amazing job and said there are many contenders. A 30 seconds fresh reaction

He was probably happy that Roglic lost the jersey, not that Roglic helped in the chase. Nibali is a cry baby who was DQ'd for blatantly cheating by getting a tow from his team car at the Vuelta 4 years ago. Class act.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Caruso exceptional

Yes indeed

Bahrain have been mega

Caruso today and Pozoo yesterday ..no matter what is said on here

 

[Moviefan1203]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

Get off of Roglic. This is really his first GT where he is considered a favorite or one of the strongest bets for the overall, whereas Nibali has been there for a decade +. Roglic also has a weaker team, he's been isolated for many of the key climbs so far in the Giro and he has to defend everything by himself as a result. If he starts marking everything by himself, he's going to pay for that later and he'll lose everything. Nibali has a comparatively much stronger team, perhaps he should work with his team. If Roglic had worked hard to go after each attack, people would be calling him naive and stupid with for the boneheaded moves of covering every attack and wasting his energy. You can't have it both ways.

Yeah, I don’t get the dislike for Roglic.

 

[Laplaz]

Nibali and Roglic aren't the favorites anymore. Movistar is now.

 

[Asero831]

Richie will need 1:10 to 1:20 buffer on Roglic

 

[Jagartrott]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

Get off of Roglic. This is really his first GT where he is considered a favorite or one of the strongest bets for the overall, whereas Nibali has been there for a decade +. Roglic also has a weaker team, he's been isolated for many of the key climbs so far in the Giro and he has to defend everything by himself as a result. If he starts marking everything by himself, he's going to pay for that later and he'll lose everything. Nibali has a comparatively much stronger team, perhaps he should work with his team. If Roglic had worked hard to go after each attack, people would be calling him naive and stupid with for the boneheaded moves of covering every attack and wasting his energy. You can't have it both ways.

I'm just going to assume you've seen nothing of today's stage.

 

[gunara]

The joy to see Landa in the train now

 

[Leinster]

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Carapaz in pink if diff is >2 min

I'm affraid it's not gonna happen

I didn't think it would either, but when the Roglic/Nibali group all started looking at each other there was only one outcome.

This Giro is a long way from being over.

 

[rick james]

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wonder who Nibali will be pissed off with now!

actually nobody. He just said to RAI he was happy Roglic helped today. He was also grateful to Caruso for his amazing job and said there are many contenders. A 30 seconds fresh reaction

that's very nice of him

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Landa unfreed?

 

[Brullnux]

Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 14: Saint Vincent-Courmayeur 13

Get off of Roglic. This is really his first GT where he is considered a favorite or one of the strongest bets for the overall, whereas Nibali has been there for a decade +. Roglic also has a weaker team, he's been isolated for many of the key climbs so far in the Giro and he has to defend everything by himself as a result. If he starts marking everything by himself, he's going to pay for that later and he'll lose everything. Nibali has a comparatively much stronger team, perhaps he should work with his team. If Roglic had worked hard to go after each attack, people would be calling him naive and stupid with for the boneheaded moves of covering every attack and wasting his energy. You can't have it both ways.

Yeah, I don’t get the dislike for Roglic.

For me it’s the same issue that happens every time on this forum and in sport in general, people just hype a rider who’s had a good season up to the point it’s genuinely annoying. People seemed to think he was Froome 2.0

 

[Escarabajo]

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I'm wonderinf what is Lopez thinking with all his almost-attacks?

I am wondering also!

Doesn't he realize that he is out of it already.

And I don't understand why Nibali chased him down either.

 

[46&twoWheels]

Re: Re:

wonder who Nibali will be pissed off with now!

actually nobody. He just said to RAI he was happy Roglic helped today. He was also grateful to Caruso for his amazing job and said there are many contenders. A 30 seconds fresh reaction

He was probably happy that Roglic lost the jersey, not that Roglic helped in the chase. Nibali is a cry baby who was DQ'd for blatantly cheating by getting a tow from his team car at the Vuelta 4 years ago. Class act.

totally irrelevant for this race.
I've just reported what Nibali said.
It's your choice to derive from these words what pleases you most based on your biases and sympathies....

 

[Red Rick]

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Roglic either has 0 or 100% confidence

He lost the Giro today. Didn't listen to what Nibali said.

I wouldn't go that far. Clearly Roglic isn't the strongest climber -- that would be Carapaz right now -- but he didn't expend any extra energy today either. One thing about Roglic is that he can diesel his way back after being attacked, maybe not in the highest mountains tho.

Key question is whether Landa will act like a proper domestique. For Carapaz to take almost 2 minutes over the "favorites" show that he's really got a chance to win.

Yates had a nice finish, too bad he already had has really bad days. Likewise Dombrowski. Mollema, otoh...

It is impossible that just letting the gap grow to 2 minutes is +ev unless he was completely empty and thought he'd get countered and lose time to everyone.

Nibali might have been too concerned with bonifications but I think he should've waited for Roglic to pull until like 6km and if he didn't just attack yourself and if you don't drop Roglic you just ride at 90% to the line.

 

[Escarabajo]

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The joy to see Landa in the train now

Can't catch a break!!

 

[HelloDolly]

I guess Landa will ride domestique now and will be 3rd ...and then there will be more free Landa on here !!

 

[Red Rick]

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I guess Landa will ride domestique now and will be 3rd ...and then there will be more free Landa on here !!

Landa as official domestique.

Guaranteed to be best in the race from now on. If you think Nibali was whining, watch Landani in the 3rd week.