Kristian Sbaragli finished 43rd today, seeing there are too much (lesser) sprinters on the team he decided to become their (lesser) climber for the Giro.
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He doesn't need to be the new Indurain to go half a minute faster in the final 5 km yesterday and today, just a little sense of initiative would be enough.Valv.Piti said:Roglic doesnt have close to the same monster engine that Indurain has and quite frankly, I think Rogla is too afraid of going to deep due to him being a 'new' on this stage. Its super interesting, I cant remember such a tactical GT in a good sense.
Katusha unleashed though.Red Rick said:Think 2017 was tactically more interesting.Valv.Piti said:Roglic doesnt have close to the same monster engine that Indurain has and quite frankly, I think Rogla is too afraid of going to deep due to him being a 'new' on this stage. Its super interesting, I cant remember such a tactical GT in a good sense.
That being said I have very low standards for pro team tactics cause they didn't attack Monte Grappa in 2017.
I remember seeing the breakaway and basically Pinot, Zakarin, Quintana and Nibali had like 1 teammate between them for the flat after Monte Grappa?Alexandre B. said:Katusha unleashed though.Red Rick said:Think 2017 was tactically more interesting.Valv.Piti said:Roglic doesnt have close to the same monster engine that Indurain has and quite frankly, I think Rogla is too afraid of going to deep due to him being a 'new' on this stage. Its super interesting, I cant remember such a tactical GT in a good sense.
That being said I have very low standards for pro team tactics cause they didn't attack Monte Grappa in 2017.
I completely agree with you, just kidding) He even can't ride TDF for GC, that suits him better, cause of other QS objectives...Alexandre B. said:Maybe.repre said:Are you gonna post this every day until he'll turn the clock back and ride Ardennes?Alexandre B. said:Bob Jungels finished 47th today, 17'25" after Carapaz.
Ditching the Ardennes classics was definitely the right move.
Here’s a natural talent for one-day racing and rolling terrain, and he prefers to suffer for an elusive top-15 in a mountainous Grand Tour. This is not his fight, this is not his strength.
topt said:Gigs_98 said:I get that not everybody sees carapaz as the favorite but how you can argue today went well for Roglic is beyond me. He basically went from "outstanding favorite, nobody except maybe Nibali can beat him" to "not even in pink and behind a seemingly stronger climber" in two days. How on earth is that good?
Roglic is a class better than everybody else in this race and will win with as little effort possible.
Heck, he can even win while backpedaling - that's how good he is!Blanco said:topt said:Gigs_98 said:I get that not everybody sees carapaz as the favorite but how you can argue today went well for Roglic is beyond me. He basically went from "outstanding favorite, nobody except maybe Nibali can beat him" to "not even in pink and behind a seemingly stronger climber" in two days. How on earth is that good?
Roglic is a class better than everybody else in this race and will win with as little effort possible.
Yes! He will win without effort
He can't ride TDF for GC because after last season Mas seems a better option for that goal.repre said:I completely agree with you, just kidding) He even can't ride TDF for GC, that suits him better, cause of other QS objectives...Alexandre B. said:Maybe.repre said:Are you gonna post this every day until he'll turn the clock back and ride Ardennes?Alexandre B. said:Bob Jungels finished 47th today, 17'25" after Carapaz.
Ditching the Ardennes classics was definitely the right move.
Here’s a natural talent for one-day racing and rolling terrain, and he prefers to suffer for an elusive top-15 in a mountainous Grand Tour. This is not his fight, this is not his strength.
Lequack said:Jagartrott said:This wasn't a good day by any measure for Roglic. Gifting a better climber with a better team minutes is not very smart. There are plenty of mountains to come, and only one TT where Carapaz will not lose minutes. The racing today was extremely daft by a number of protagonists.
But same can be said for all the others. If Roglic has a bad day Nibali would be first in line to take the Giro, now he needs two people to have a bad day.
What I wonder the most is that their DSes were telling them via radio. It the DSes were saying do not chase then it's probably their fault and not the riders themselves.
Movistar will shed all Jumbo riders, and if Carapaz then goes, and is - like now - simply better than Roglic uphill, how is this much better for Roglic? He had a buffer, now he has none. Yesterday was not mature riding. Mature riding would have been to convince Nibali and Lopez to ride along on the last hill, hence losing a minute less to Carapaz without too much effort.Oude Geuze said:Things will become much better for Roglic now that movistar will be pacing the mountains instead of attacking like mad men. At least he can hope for some cohesion in the MS team, but I’m not certain the pecking order has been established and Landa still has aspirations. But it will be much harder to execute 1-2 attacks with two guys close to or in the pink. Infighting might result. I still think it’s Nibali vs Roglic. Super impressed with how mature Roglic handled a very difficult week, with just one strong climber this would have been an easy Giro win for him, but damn it’s exciting!
Jagartrott said:Movistar will shed all Jumbo riders, and if Carapaz then goes, and is - like now - simply better than Roglic uphill, how is this much better for Roglic? He had a buffer, now he has none. Yesterday was not mature riding. Mature riding would have been to convince Nibali and Lopez to ride along on the last hill, hence losing a minute less to Carapaz without too much effort.Oude Geuze said:Things will become much better for Roglic now that movistar will be pacing the mountains instead of attacking like mad men. At least he can hope for some cohesion in the MS team, but I’m not certain the pecking order has been established and Landa still has aspirations. But it will be much harder to execute 1-2 attacks with two guys close to or in the pink. Infighting might result. I still think it’s Nibali vs Roglic. Super impressed with how mature Roglic handled a very difficult week, with just one strong climber this would have been an easy Giro win for him, but damn it’s exciting!
Jagartrott said:Movistar will shed all Jumbo riders, and if Carapaz then goes, and is - like now - simply better than Roglic uphill, how is this much better for Roglic? He had a buffer, now he has none. Yesterday was not mature riding. Mature riding would have been to convince Nibali and Lopez to ride along on the last hill, hence losing a minute less to Carapaz without too much effort.Oude Geuze said:Things will become much better for Roglic now that movistar will be pacing the mountains instead of attacking like mad men. At least he can hope for some cohesion in the MS team, but I’m not certain the pecking order has been established and Landa still has aspirations. But it will be much harder to execute 1-2 attacks with two guys close to or in the pink. Infighting might result. I still think it’s Nibali vs Roglic. Super impressed with how mature Roglic handled a very difficult week, with just one strong climber this would have been an easy Giro win for him, but damn it’s exciting!
yeah, I was surprised when Dunne said in his blog that they wanted to get one of their "three climbers, Plaza, Neilands or Sbaragli" into the breakaway the other day - but seems like he had a pointNirvana said:Kristian Sbaragli finished 43rd today, seeing there are too much (lesser) sprinters on the team he decided to become their (lesser) climber for the Giro.
ppanther92 said:Yes, great showing. Arguably the best he has ever shown against competition on this level.Laplaz said:No word about Dombrowski? Quite a performance today.