2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 15: Ivrea - Como 232 km

[JosephK]

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So Roglic will probably get a time penalty also?

I don't think the sticky bottle was blatant enough for a time penalty.

 

[Climbing]

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So Roglic will probably get a time penalty also?

Sticky bottle and behind car, maybe he will get it, maybe not.
Sounds harsh with his mechanical and crash...

 

[Salvarani]

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Cataldo sits on for the entire climb, then has the nerve to get moody with Cattaneo sitting on him in the run-in.

Noticed that too. Cheeky ***

Cattaneo tried to attack him though tbf, on the climb. Cataldo wasnt gonna help after that.

 

[Simurgh]

1 minute gap between Roglic and Nibali in GC

 

[BullsFan22]

What a shame for Roglič, a mechanical, Movistar pick up the pace, he gets back on, limits the damage to Nibali on the final meters of the climb, then he crashes and loses 40 seconds to the leaders. He didn't deserve that. Nibali again benefitting from someone else's misfortune.

You are bound to have some misfortune through 3 weeks, especially when you don't have a team. And not only Nibali, but also Carapaz cashed in. Also lets not forget he was dropped in the first place.

He had to chase back almost 30 seconds with a bike that wasn't really working for him. He looked ok physically but the way he was spinning the bike didn't look like his normal cadence and obviously the crash. Yes, I realize that pressure to chase on the final descent and get back to Carapaz and Nibali didn't help, but riding someone else's bike can cause problems.

 

[kareeem]

What a shame for Roglič, a mechanical, Movistar pick up the pace, he gets back on, limits the damage to Nibali on the final meters of the climb, then he crashes and loses 40 seconds to the leaders. He didn't deserve that. Nibali again benefitting from someone else's misfortune.

You are bound to have some misfortune through 3 weeks, especially when you don't have a team. And not only Nibali, but also Carapaz cashed in. Also lets not forget he was dropped in the first place.

Riding up the Civiglio on someone else's bike is far from ideal to put it mildly.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

GC

 

[Leinster]

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Vincenzo Nibali less strong than Richard Carapaz on the flat.

Unless voodoo, the race is over.

3rd week everything can change.

I wouldn’t read much into the finish order between them. Nibali did most of the work getting the break away from Roglic in the first place, so understandable that Carapaz would be stronger once down the other side.

 

[IndianCyclist]

This Giro was Roglic's to lose and he simply gifts time to opponents unlike Dumoulin. He should have kept the gaps to protect against a day like today

 

[Eyeballs Out]

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Cataldo sits on for the entire climb, then has the nerve to get moody with Cattaneo sitting on him in the run-in.

Noticed that too. Cheeky ***

Might be true although we only saw the leaders for about 10% of the climb

 

[HelloDolly]

MS should have ridden sooner

And Maybe Nibali should have left Roglic on Friday

 

[Cance > TheRest]

What a shame for Roglič, a mechanical, Movistar pick up the pace, he gets back on, limits the damage to Nibali on the final meters of the climb, then he crashes and loses 40 seconds to the leaders. He didn't deserve that. Nibali again benefitting from someone else's misfortune.

You are bound to have some misfortune through 3 weeks, especially when you don't have a team. And not only Nibali, but also Carapaz cashed in. Also lets not forget he was dropped in the first place.

Not to mention the crash that benefitted Roglic and Carapaz on stage 4. It is also interesting to note that Carapaz lost 46 seconds on stage 3.

It's just the nature of the race. Roglic has had a perfect race until his crash. At some point, misfortune has got to happen.

 

[JosephK]

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1 minute gap between Roglic and Nibali in GC

I think it could be very interesting if Carapaz fades in week 3. But if he goes like he's been going, he's got the win.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Ofc it isn't optimal to ride on a midget bike, but please, this Nibali-narrative is getting old. How about when a *** fan put him down on Alpe d' Huez and his season was ruined?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Cataldo sits on for the entire climb, then has the nerve to get moody with Cattaneo sitting on him in the run-in.

Noticed that too. Cheeky ***

Cattaneo tried to attack him though tbf, on the climb. Cataldo wasnt gonna help after that.

Even on Ghisallo and Sormano, Cattaneo did like 90% of the work. Cataldo took hardly any turns.
Cattaneo has no sprint so he had to play it like this. But if Cattaneo had made a fuss about Cataldo doing so little work, Cataldo wouldn't have won.

 

[Climbing]

Oh that's a penalty 100% I fear.

 

[BullsFan22]

What a shame for Roglič, a mechanical, Movistar pick up the pace, he gets back on, limits the damage to Nibali on the final meters of the climb, then he crashes and loses 40 seconds to the leaders. He didn't deserve that. Nibali again benefitting from someone else's misfortune.

What ?

This is bike racing ...crashing , descending all part of the game...everyone wins and loses ..strange ...should they just sit up ??

Just ignore him.
Just trolling against Nibali.

Whoever has ridden a bike knows that a crash like Roglic's is only his own fault and has nothing at all to do with fortune.

We all watched the same race. He was riding someone else's bike due to a mechanical, hence one of the reasons for the crash, hence the misfortune.

 

[HelloDolly]

BTW Landa didnt look so hot today on the climb

 

[Alexandre B.]

You can't escape Rabofail it seems.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't understand why Roglic didn't change to his spare bike while he was chasing back to the group. The team car was right next to him, it would have cost him about 10s.

 

[Bolder]

If Roglic was in pink they probably would have waited during the mechanical. His crash was not something you'd sit up for -- he overshot a turn; not like an errant moto, camera strap or a bidon...

 

[movingtarget]

Nice to see Cataldo get the win. Good day for Carapaz and Nibali also Yates. Roglic and his team will rue not taking a spare bike before the climb. Sure his team mates bike didn't help. He looked awkward enough even before the descent. The last three stages haven't been dull. Typical Giro stage. What looked like a snorefest with about 90 kms to go.sprang to life mainly thanks to Michelton and some late attacks..

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Great smiles from Nibali behind the scenes just now

 

[Climbing]

Alberto and Vincenzo having a chat, just because.
Alberto still super thin.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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I don't understand why Roglic didn't change to his spare bike while he was chasing back to the group. The team car was right next to him, it would have cost him about 10s.

That's a good point. He would not have had any problem getting back with all the help from team cars, the commisaire car and sticky bottles that he got anyway. A wrong decision, that possibly caused his crash, it seems.