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Hamilton is a very good domestique as is Jack Haig. Both have a future by the looks of things.yaco said:Reckon Hamilton was stronger than Yates on the climb - Hamilton has been super impressive.LaFlorecita said:Interesting to see Lucas Hamilton on Yates' wheel. Strange tactics.
Reckon Hamilton is showing more than Haig in his second year - Time will tell.movingtarget said:Hamilton is a very good domestique as is Jack Haig. Both have a future by the looks of things.yaco said:Reckon Hamilton was stronger than Yates on the climb - Hamilton has been super impressive.LaFlorecita said:Interesting to see Lucas Hamilton on Yates' wheel. Strange tactics.
Without tagging onto the Yates group he could have lost much more time. Maybe rest day syndrome as well or maybe the accident contributed a bit as well.SafeBet said:Roglic had troubles following the group he was with on the false flat. I'm not sure he will recover from this, looks to be fading.
Lots of work, for no gain at least on Movistar. Roglic either cracks completely now or hangs in there enough to be a podium chance re the TT. I think it could go either way at the moment depending how aggressive the racing is. Bad today doesn't always mean bad tomorrow as Yates has already shown.Red Rick said:Nibali keeps tactically blundering
De Plus may have helped some, but I don't know how much. He's matured this season and had been healthier, but he was pretty much worthless as help for Enric at the Vuelta last year. Rode well on the first climbing stage then was nowhere until he finally abandoned.What race are you watching? He's had Little Support throughout. He's no Contador that can win even without a team, never mind not even a team car when you need one. I sure hope he podiums. Granted he may have come in too hot but with even De Plus around I think it would have been a different trip through the mountains for him.
Not denying there are better climbers than him in this race. Everybody sees that. But his support on the climbs is nonexistent. If he had a Pozzovivo and Caruso, nevermind Landa and Amador, he'd still be comfortably in pink. It was almost funny (well it's not, I know these guys suffer but you get the point) when Bouwman was caught by the Roglic group, the moto reporter on RAI said he was pushing the pace not even for 30m...lol Even Antonio Nibali stayed with his brother for almost a kilometer.jaylew said:I'm watching the race where he just lost 2:00 on the last two stages to the best climbers in the race because he couldn't keep the pace. I agree that his support has been lacking but the idea that he would have won with a better team doesn't make sense. At some point (in the high mountains) it's about having the legs.Carols said:What race are you watching? He's had Little Support throughout. He's no Contador that can win even without a team, never mind not even a team car when you need one. I sure hope he podiums. Granted he may have come in too hot but with even De Plus around I think it would have been a different trip through the mountains for him.
I still think Carapaz would have lead the race, even if Roglic had better team support.johnymax said:Not denying there are better climbers than him in this race. Everybody sees that. But his support on the climbs is nonexistent. If he had a Pozzovivo and Caruso, nevermind Landa and Amador, he'd still be comfortably in pink. It was almost funny (well it's not, I know these guys suffer but you get the point) when Bouwman was caught by the Roglic group, the moto reporter on RAI said he was pushing the pace not even for 30m...lol Even Antonio Nibali stayed with his brother for almost a kilometer.jaylew said:I'm watching the race where he just lost 2:00 on the last two stages to the best climbers in the race because he couldn't keep the pace. I agree that his support has been lacking but the idea that he would have won with a better team doesn't make sense. At some point (in the high mountains) it's about having the legs.Carols said:What race are you watching? He's had Little Support throughout. He's no Contador that can win even without a team, never mind not even a team car when you need one. I sure hope he podiums. Granted he may have come in too hot but with even De Plus around I think it would have been a different trip through the mountains for him.
Wow, Mortirolo really can kill people. Will he abandon tomorrow or this is just one time thing?Alexandre B. said:Vuillermoz had an asthma crisis and fell on the Mortirolo ascent.
Was trying to puzzle out what cryptic comment or metaphor you intended with your photo . . . and then I read that they ride to the WC biathlon stadium tomorrowMax Rockatansky said:
There's a lot of doubt about that statement. I'd say it's false.Oude Geuze said:There’s no doubt he would still be comfortably in pink with a strong team. However, Carapaz would probably now be quite close and would pose a real threat. On the other hand, his level of fatigue would also be lower, so it’s hard to say. Not at all certain he would win even with a strong team, but today is the only day he would have lost significant time to main contenders even with help. Although not as much. Nibali seems to be the favorite to win now however.
De Plus went through a long recovery due to a crash in Lombardia first and getting hit by a truck during recovery after that. The Vuelta was only a few months after his comeback.perico said:De Plus may have helped some, but I don't know how much. He's matured this season and had been healthier, but he was pretty much worthless as help for Enric at the Vuelta last year. Rode well on the first climbing stage then was nowhere until he finally abandoned.What race are you watching? He's had Little Support throughout. He's no Contador that can win even without a team, never mind not even a team car when you need one. I sure hope he podiums. Granted he may have come in too hot but with even De Plus around I think it would have been a different trip through the mountains for him.
There's plenty of doubt. Maybe not for you, but for others there is all the doubt in the world.Oude Geuze said:There’s no doubt he would still be comfortably in pink with a strong team. However, Carapaz would probably now be quite close and would pose a real threat. On the other hand, his level of fatigue would also be lower, so it’s hard to say. Not at all certain he would win even with a strong team, but today is the only day he would have lost significant time to main contenders even with help. Although not as much. Nibali seems to be the favorite to win now however.
Or in the hospital.Stingishere1 said:With Gavia probably today we would Nibali in Pink jersey.
Very fast climbing time this year. In fact, only 7s slower than in 2006. In 2006 they were 2 full minutes faster on San Carlo. San Carlo produced bigger gaps than the MortiroloValv.Piti said:Hmm, one of the more disappointing Mortirolo stages, only after 2008. I felt like it really needed Gavia, it was simply too easy beforehand and the gaps never really got big like we are used to seeing.
Looking at the previous mountain stages I honestly don't see where a better team would have made a huge difference for Roglic against Carapaz.Oude Geuze said:There’s no doubt he would still be comfortably in pink with a strong team. However, Carapaz would probably now be quite close and would pose a real threat. On the other hand, his level of fatigue would also be lower, so it’s hard to say. Not at all certain he would win even with a strong team, but today is the only day he would have lost significant time to main contenders even with help. Although not as much. Nibali seems to be the favorite to win now however.
O_OPantani_lives said:López had the fastest time on the Mortirolo with 44:38. That's 36 seconds faster than Contador in 2015 and one second faster than Basso in 2010.
http://www.climbing-records.com/
Yeah, but then he got cold feet!Pantani_lives said:López had the fastest time on the Mortirolo with 44:38. That's 36 seconds faster than Contador in 2015 and one second faster than Basso in 2010.
http://www.climbing-records.com/