2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 19: Treviso-San Martino d. C. 151km

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Feb 20, 2012
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Really, the 3rd week Unipuerto stages actually delivered in the last few years in the Giro and Vuelta, but you can't use a climb this bad for it.
 
Aug 29, 2009
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It would have been even more guys finishing at the same time in 2009 without di Luca opening the sprint early to catch Soler - and back then it used to be more selective than today (and as mentioned, the stage itself was more difficult)

In week three it may be a bit different of course, but I guess it's hard to expect major gaps on a climb Ulissi or Battaglin would take the win on in week 1.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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The only redeeming quality of this climb is we see it only once this Gi - ow ***
 
Oct 15, 2017
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Re: 2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 19: Treviso-San Martino d. C. 1

Just a thought...

The climb not being super-hard might make it easier to make attacks though. Not having to be on their absolute limit. At least the riders on the bottom half of the top 10 will surely try if they are feeling good.
 
Jun 20, 2015
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The Barb said:
yaco said:
Best chance for QS to win a stage at this Giro - I'll go for L.Hamilton.

Lucas Hamilton is most assuredly not QS's best chance to win a stage. ;)
(although his form is obviously strong and he does have a good chance)

I mede two observations in my post - That this is QS's best chance to win a stage at the Giro - Second observation is L.Hamilton is my two choice for today's stage which of course is a stab in the dark.
 
Aug 29, 2009
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Red Rick said:
The only redeeming quality of this climb is we see it only once this Gi - ow ****
they'll do it tomorrow as well :p

edit: looks like I missed the joke there ;)
 
Jun 19, 2009
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I'm not expected a 2009-style group sprint at the top. That was early in the race. A lot of tired riders now and the wind looks favourable for attacks
 
Nov 16, 2013
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Broccolidwarf said:
Odd Demare does not fight to get in the break, when there is still a chance to take the jersey back today.

He can't get it back today unless he finishes top 15 on the stage.
 
Jul 21, 2011
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While the climb doesn't overly suit him Chaves looked like he has decent form yesterday so would be my pick from the group
 
Nov 16, 2013
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Broccolidwarf said:
tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
Odd Demare does not fight to get in the break, when there is still a chance to take the jersey back today.

He can't get it back today unless he finishes top 15 on the stage.

According to the danish commentators, he could take it back in the intermediate sprints after the first climb today.

No, he can't. There are only 12 points on offer there.

Thomas Bay even said exactly that. He would still need two points somewhere else in the race.
 
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Tigerion said:
While the climb doesn't overly suit him Chaves looked like he has decent form yesterday so would be my pick from the group
Yeah, he must be the favorite. My second pick is Serry.
 
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tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
Odd Demare does not fight to get in the break, when there is still a chance to take the jersey back today.

He can't get it back today unless he finishes top 15 on the stage.

According to the danish commentators, he could take it back in the intermediate sprints after the first climb today.

No, he can't. There are only 12 points on offer there.

Thomas Bay even said exactly that. He would still need two points somewhere else in the race.

I stand corrected then, maybe I misheard - usually the intermediate sprint gives 10 points to the winner, and there are 2 today :)
 
Nov 16, 2013
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Broccolidwarf said:
tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
Odd Demare does not fight to get in the break, when there is still a chance to take the jersey back today.

He can't get it back today unless he finishes top 15 on the stage.

According to the danish commentators, he could take it back in the intermediate sprints after the first climb today.

No, he can't. There are only 12 points on offer there.

Thomas Bay even said exactly that. He would still need two points somewhere else in the race.

I stand corrected then, maybe I misheard - usually the intermediate sprint gives 10 points to the winner, and there are 2 today :)

What do you mean by usually? In this Giro, there have been 12 points on offer in the first intermediate sprint every single stage, and none in the second (only bonus seconds).

In previous editions, the points tally has been higher. In the Tour, there are 15 points on offer. In most other events, there are 6 points on offer.

Are you just making up numbers right now?
 
Aug 29, 2009
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Broccolidwarf said:
tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
Odd Demare does not fight to get in the break, when there is still a chance to take the jersey back today.

He can't get it back today unless he finishes top 15 on the stage.

According to the danish commentators, he could take it back in the intermediate sprints after the first climb today.

No, he can't. There are only 12 points on offer there.

Thomas Bay even said exactly that. He would still need two points somewhere else in the race.

I stand corrected then, maybe I misheard - usually the intermediate sprint gives 10 points to the winner, and there are 2 today :)
yeah, it's a bit confusing. There are two sprints with 10 points each for the intermediate sprint classification, but only the first one counts for the points jersey (with 12 points available)
 
Aug 29, 2009
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tobydawq said:
In previous editions, the points tally has been higher.
I haven't calculated it through (and it's hypothetical anyway, as it changes the way the intermediate sprints are contested) but with the old rules (2x20 points per intermediate sprint on the flat stages) Cima would probably lead the points classification by a massive margin now...
 
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tobydawq said:
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tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
Odd Demare does not fight to get in the break, when there is still a chance to take the jersey back today.

He can't get it back today unless he finishes top 15 on the stage.

According to the danish commentators, he could take it back in the intermediate sprints after the first climb today.

No, he can't. There are only 12 points on offer there.

Thomas Bay even said exactly that. He would still need two points somewhere else in the race.

I stand corrected then, maybe I misheard - usually the intermediate sprint gives 10 points to the winner, and there are 2 today :)

What do you mean by usually? In this Giro, there have been 12 points on offer in the first intermediate sprint every single stage, and none in the second (only bonus seconds).

In previous editions, the points tally has been higher. In the Tour, there are 15 points on offer. In most other events, there are 6 points on offer.

Are you just making up numbers right now?[/quote]

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I don't really understand why you choose to to answer in an offensive tone?

According to this very site, if you open the results of each Giro stage, every single intermediate sprint has given 10 points to the sprint winner....... without exception.

Have a look yourself :)
 
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Broccolidwarf said:
I don't really understand why you choose to to answer in an offensive tone?

According to this very site, if you open the results of each Giro stage, every single intermediate sprint has given 10 points to the sprint winner....... without exception.

Have a look yourself :)

Okay, I guess I understand the confusion then. But I never use Cyclingnews for anything else than its forum. They are not able to read rulebooks so you can't trust their interpretations of the allocation of points. The points they have written in their results are the (irrelevant) points that goes to the (irrelevant and jersey-less) intermediate sprint competition.

Also, this very subject was discussed several times at the beginning of the race.

Sorry for the tone.
 
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tobydawq said:
Broccolidwarf said:
I don't really understand why you choose to to answer in an offensive tone?

According to this very site, if you open the results of each Giro stage, every single intermediate sprint has given 10 points to the sprint winner....... without exception.

Have a look yourself :)

Okay, I guess I understand the confusion then. But I never use Cyclingnews for anything else than its forum. They are not able to read rulebooks so you can't trust their interpretations of the allocation of points. The points they have written in their results are the (irrelevant) points that goes to the (irrelevant and jersey-less) intermediate sprint competition.

Also, this very subject was discussed several times at the beginning of the race.

Sorry for the tone.

Thanks