2019 Giro d'Italia Stage 20: Feltre - Monte Avena 194 km

[Carols]

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Could Lopez incur some kind of penalty? Idiot fan but one has to think hitting someone twice will be frowned on.

I think Froome got fined once for hitting someone, anything else would be unfair. Roglic will also be fined probably for the fan pushing him.

He surely didn't ask the idiot to push him! Tough break to get a penalty

 

[huge]

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10 secs penalty for Roglic apparently, and that's very lucky as well to be honest.
Obviously not his fault...

True, not his fault, but he did not do anything to push the guy away.
We see riders being pushed all the time, but they usually react in a very annoyed way. Roglic seemed to enjoy the push.

 

[movingtarget]

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Roglic penalized 10 seconds for the push he got apparently.

That's garbage, don't agree with that. Every Giro riders are getting pushed on the mountains and what happens ? The problem was Roglic didn't try and fend him off I suppose and the push was a long one. Oh well it's not enough to help Landa anyway.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Could Lopez incur some kind of penalty? Idiot fan but one has to think hitting someone twice will be frowned on.

I think Froome got fined once for hitting someone, anything else would be unfair. Roglic will also be fined probably for the fan pushing him.

He surely didn't ask the idiot to push him! Tough break to get a penalty

Usually the riders stop it. He didn't even try.

 

[Lequack]

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Could Lopez incur some kind of penalty? Idiot fan but one has to think hitting someone twice will be frowned on.

I think Froome got fined once for hitting someone, anything else would be unfair. Roglic will also be fined probably for the fan pushing him.

He surely didn't ask the idiot to push him! Tough break to get a penalty

Usually the riders stop it. He didn't even try.

But when you hit the fans you might also get DQed.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Could Lopez incur some kind of penalty? Idiot fan but one has to think hitting someone twice will be frowned on.

I think Froome got fined once for hitting someone, anything else would be unfair. Roglic will also be fined probably for the fan pushing him.

He surely didn't ask the idiot to push him! Tough break to get a penalty

Usually the riders stop it. He didn't even try.

But when you hit the fans you might also get DQed.

Not always.

 

[huge]

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Could Lopez incur some kind of penalty? Idiot fan but one has to think hitting someone twice will be frowned on.

I think Froome got fined once for hitting someone, anything else would be unfair. Roglic will also be fined probably for the fan pushing him.

He surely didn't ask the idiot to push him! Tough break to get a penalty

Usually the riders stop it. He didn't even try.

But when you hit the fans you might also get DQed.

He didn't have to hit him, but just show he was annoyed, moving his hand away

 

[rlntlssly]

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Could Lopez incur some kind of penalty? Idiot fan but one has to think hitting someone twice will be frowned on.

I think Froome got fined once for hitting someone, anything else would be unfair. Roglic will also be fined probably for the fan pushing him.

He surely didn't ask the idiot to push him! Tough break to get a penalty

Usually the riders stop it. He didn't even try.

But when you hit the fans you might also get DQed.

There's a difference between knocking a fan away when you're riding and hitting a fan in retaliation after you've been knocked off your bike. I wouldn't DQ Lopez, but it's not the same as swinging an arm out in self-defence.

 

[SafeBet]

The push came when riders were being dropped (Sivakov, Mollema) and he clearly got a benefit from it. It was pretty long also. He could have at least shown he was annoyed.

 

[roundabout]

Post Belli I can't recall any rider being DQ-ed for hitting a fan, but my memory isn't what it used to be

 

[DanielSong39]

Usually the only push you can get is to get the bike going again after a crash or mechanical.

 

[Escarabajo]

 

[Lequack]

Hah yes I remembered that. Also Froome shushing the T-Rex.

 

[Carols]

So Roglic has to make up 23 seconds on Landa If he isn't entirely done in that should be within his scope. But I think he's pretty close to 'stick a fork in him' territory. I hope he makes it, he rode a brave race, mostly without a team mate on every single climb. Today he was isolated with 110km to go.

 

[DanielSong39]

If that was the fan who knocked him down Lopez should get a time bonus

 

[Mayomaniac]

I'm impressed by Conci. Didn't enter the breakaway and stayed with Mollema for a decent amount of time, he finished only 15 seconds behind Caruso. It's the first time that he's riding a gt until the end and his first Giro, if you consider the fact that he had a rather poor season before the Giro he did better than expected.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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So Roglic has to make up 23 seconds on Landa If he isn't entirely done in that should be within his scope. But I think he's pretty close to 'stick a fork in him' territory. I hope he makes it, he rode a brave race, mostly without a team mate on every single climb. Today he was isolated with 110km to go.

That should be no problem.

 

[Lequack]

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So Roglic has to make up 23 seconds on Landa If he isn't entirely done in that should be within his scope. But I think he's pretty close to 'stick a fork in him' territory. I hope he makes it, he rode a brave race, mostly without a team mate on every single climb. Today he was isolated with 110km to go.

He really peaked too soon it seems, but I wouldn't be too disappointed if I was him, pulling this off without much of a team is great, even better if he manages to get the podium.

 

[roundabout]

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I'm impressed by Conci. Didn't enter the breakaway and stayed with Mollema for a decent amount of time, he finished only 15 seconds behind Caruso. It's the first time that he's riding a gt until the end and his first Giro, if you consider the fact that he had a rather poor season before the Giro he did better than expected.

He should have helped Ciccone on the Manghen instead of it looking like Ciccone was pacing him up

 

[bajbar]

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So Roglic has to make up 23 seconds on Landa If he isn't entirely done in that should be within his scope. But I think he's pretty close to 'stick a fork in him' territory. I hope he makes it, he rode a brave race, mostly without a team mate on every single climb. Today he was isolated with 110km to go.

He really peaked too soon it seems, but I wouldn't be too disappointed if I was him, pulling this off without much of a team is great, even better if he manages to get the podium.

The "peak-form" seemed to be reached too early yes... But maybe he was thinking about the Tour as the second peak and thought that he would have big enough advantage because of the TTs that he didn't need to be at the absolute peak. Which might be true if the team was there. But without the team, he came up short.

 

[Rollthedice]

Roglic didn't peak too soon. That's his level of climbing and having no team doesn't help.

 

[Escarabajo]

If he was thinking of the Tour with practically no team at the Giro with those crazy climbs at the end would not be very smart of him. I don't think that's what he did.

 

[Salvarani]

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Roglic didn't peak too soon. That's his level of climbing and having no team doesn't help.

Over 3 weeks. I actually think so too.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Landa might finish fourth at one second from the podium again.

 

[Carols]

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Roglic didn't peak too soon. That's his level of climbing and having no team doesn't help.

Well he was climbing with the Big Boys at le Tour last year, so I think this is below his best climbing level. That or the Giro mountains don't suit him as well as le Tours. IMO it's a combo of being too hot coming in, lack of support and going over the top of his form during the race. Crashing twice didn't help.

Still 2 stage wins and hopefully a podium is a great showing for a 1st time GT leader IMO.