2020 Vuelta CQ Game

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Stage 17 Last throw of the dice

Green points not the last throw on this one
1​
RoteLaterne
98​
Gaudu, Izagirre, Carapaz
2=​
Googolplex, Kazistuta, Laarsland
95​
Gaudu, Izagirre
5​
LosBrolin
90​
Gaudu, De La Cruz, Carapaz, Carthy
6​
Luthor
88​
Gaudu, De La Cruz, Carapaz
7​
Otoxiep87
85​
Gaudu, De La Cruz
8=​
ArchieBoy, BikeRacer33, Comodoro, Vladimir
73​
Gaudu, Carapaz
12=​
Bminchow, Fivezzz, SafeBet, Search
70​
Gaudu
16​
ChrisDK
20​
De La Cruz, Martin
17​
Koronin
7​
Storer
18​
Mellow_Velo
5​
Martin
19=​
Carapaz teams
3​
26=​
The rest
0​
Collective_Wisdom
73​

Standings
After a few stable days, lots of change and the two managers who have dominated the main game rise to the top spots here.
scoreposition change
1​
RoteLaterne
682​
1​
2​
LosBrolin
642​
2​
3​
Fivezzz
612​
2​
4​
Laarsland
593​
3​
5​
Shalgo
587​
-4​
6​
SafeBet
576​
0​
7​
Yellow_Knight
562​
-4​
8​
Search
561​
1​
9​
Luthor
520​
4​
10​
BicycleBoy
493​
-2​
Very few sprinters in these selections to change things tomorrow.

Main game
There were a few gc changes, but so far down that only those invested in this game are likely to notice them.
GAUDU David
130 points​
15 teams​
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
70​
4​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
35​
4​
MARTIN Guillaume
17​
2​
STORER Michael
13​
1​
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban
-16​
2​
KUSS Sepp
-17​
5​
WOODS Michael
-18​
11​
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
-30​
4​
VLASOV Aleksandr
-32​
18​
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
-43​
2​

1​
Luthor
204​
Gaudu and De La Cruz
2​
LosBrolin
203​
Gaudu and De La Cruz
3​
Otoxiep87
169​
Gaudu and De La Cruz but Vlasov
4​
Kazistuta
137​
Gaudu and Izagirre
5​
RoteLaterne
136​
Gaudu and Izagirre but Vlasov
6​
BikeRacer33
125​
7​
Laarsland
124​
8​
ArchieBoy
108​
9​
Comodoro
101​
9​
Vladimir
101​
11​
Bminchow
98​
12​
Googolplex
88​
13​
SafeBet
65​
14​
ChrisDK
57​
15​
Search
50​
16​
Fivezzz
46​
17​
Del1962
5​
17​
Northerner
5​
19​
BluesInTheBottle
3​
20​
Mellow_Velo
-1​
21​
Triley36
-12​
22​
Armchair_Cyclist
-13​
22​
Scrool07
-13​
24​
RedheadDane
-14​
25​
Koronin
-15​
26​
Salvarani
-32​
27​
Shalgo
-43​
27​
Yellow_Knight
-43​
29​
AmisVelo
-46​
29​
Nakazar
-46​
31​
BicycleBoy
-50​
32​
Leadbelly
-62​
Collective_Wisdom
103​


Standings All over bar the sprinting

1​
LosBrolin
2426​
0​
203​
2​
RoteLaterne
2092​
0​
136​
3​
Luthor
1909​
0​
204​
4​
BikeRacer33
1631​
3​
125​
5​
Shalgo
1596​
-1​
-43​
6​
Comodoro
1550​
3​
101​
7​
Scrool07
1542​
-2​
-13​
8​
Armchair_Cyclist
1527​
-2​
-13​
9​
ArchieBoy
1452​
4​
108​
10​
Fivezzz
1447​
2​
46​
11​
BicycleBoy
1421​
-3​
-50​
12​
Bminchow
1376​
4​
98​
13​
AmisVelo
1373​
-3​
-46​
14​
Yellow_Knight
1371​
-3​
-43​
15​
Vladimir
1348​
5​
101​
16​
Search
1341​
-1​
50​
17​
Northerner
1331​
-3​
5​
18​
SafeBet
1327​
0​
65​
19​
Del1962
1269​
-2​
5​
20​
Triley36
1243​
-1​
-12​
21​
Otoxiep87
1228​
2​
169​
22​
Leadbelly
1159​
-1​
-62​
23​
Laarsland
1121​
1​
124​
24​
BluesInTheBottle
1063​
-2​
3​
25​
Googolplex
1027​
1​
88​
26​
Kazistuta
1015​
2​
137​
27​
ChrisDK
1004​
-2​
57​
28​
Nakazar
840​
-1​
-46​
29​
Mellow_Velo
822​
0​
-1​
30​
Salvarani
774​
0​
-32​
31​
Koronin
699​
0​
-15​
32​
RedheadDane
520​
0​
-14​
Collective_Wisdom
1542​
103​

Those margins at the top, unlike in the Vuelta itself, are huge. Hard to see tomorrow as more than a formality.
 
Stage 18 And that's it for 2020

Green points

1​
Googolplex
41​
Bennett and Aberasturi
2=​
Northerner, Vladimir
25​
Kanter
4=​
Luthor, Otoxiep87
15​
Philipsen
6=​
AmisVelo, Laarsland
2​
Stannard
8=​
ChrisDK, Koronin, Mellow_Velo
1​
Aberasturi
11=​
Everyone else
0​

Final table
Googolplex's investment in Bennett, by a long way the most expensive sprinter selected, had probably been intended to gain more than a last moment move into tenth, but that is what he got out of it.
1​
RoteLaterne
682​
0​
2​
LosBrolin
642​
0​
3​
Fivezzz
612​
0​
4​
Laarsland
595​
0​
5​
Shalgo
587​
0​
6​
SafeBet
576​
0​
7​
Yellow_Knight
562​
0​
8​
Search
561​
0​
9​
Luthor
535​
0​
10​
Googolplex
512​
4​
11​
BicycleBoy
493​
-1​
12​
ArchieBoy
490​
-1​
13​
BikeRacer33
488​
-1​
14​
Northerner
483​
4​
15​
Otoxiep87
479​
2​
16​
Bminchow
472​
-3​
17​
Armchair_Cyclist
465​
-2​
17​
Scrool07
465​
-2​
19​
Vladimir
443​
1​
20​
Comodoro
424​
-1​
21​
Kazistuta
396​
0​
22​
Nakazar
342​
0​
23​
Leadbelly
340​
0​
24​
Salvarani
332​
0​
25​
Triley36
331​
0​
26​
AmisVelo
330​
0​
27​
Mellow_Velo
302​
0​
28​
BluesInTheBottle
237​
0​
29​
Del1962
236​
0​
30​
ChrisDK
225​
0​
31​
Koronin
142​
0​
32​
RedheadDane
67​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
424​


Main Game Last ditch point contributions:
BENNETT Sam
40​
1​
KANTER Max
25​
2​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
19​
2​
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel
2​
3​
POWER Robert
2​
6​
STANNARD Robert
2​
2​

GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
-2​
2​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
-2​
27​
WOODS Michael
-3​
11​
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
-4​
6​
FORMOLO Davide
-42​
3​

Davide Formolo obviously values attendance at his child's birth over the battle to get into the top half of the table here.
1​
Googolplex
41​
2​
Northerner
23​
3​
Luthor
17​
3​
Otoxiep87
17​
5​
AmisVelo
2​
5​
Koronin
2​
7​
ChrisDK
1​
7​
RedheadDane
1​
9​
BluesInTheBottle
-1​
9​
Comodoro
-1​
11​
ArchieBoy
-2​
11​
Del1962
-2​
11​
Kazistuta
-2​
11​
Leadbelly
-2​
11​
LosBrolin
-2​
11​
Mellow_Velo
-2​
11​
Nakazar
-2​
11​
RoteLaterne
-2​
11​
Triley36
-2​
20​
Search
-3​
21​
Armchair_Cyclist
-5​
21​
BicycleBoy
-5​
21​
SafeBet
-5​
21​
Salvarani
-5​
21​
Scrool07
-5​
26​
BikeRacer33
-6​
27​
Shalgo
-9​
27​
Yellow_Knight
-9​
29​
Fivezzz
-11​
30​
Vladimir
-15​
31​
Bminchow
-42​
32​
Laarsland
-47​
Collective_Wisdom
-2​


Final standings

1​
LosBrolin
2424​
0​
-2​
2​
RoteLaterne
2090​
0​
-2​
3​
Luthor
1926​
0​
17​
4​
BikeRacer33
1625​
0​
-6​
5​
Shalgo
1587​
0​
-9​
6​
Comodoro
1549​
0​
-1​
7​
Scrool07
1537​
0​
-5​
8​
Armchair_Cyclist
1522​
0​
-5​
9​
ArchieBoy
1450​
0​
-2​
10​
Fivezzz
1436​
0​
-11​
11​
BicycleBoy
1416​
0​
-5​
12​
AmisVelo
1375​
1​
2​
13​
Yellow_Knight
1362​
1​
-9​
14​
Northerner
1354​
3​
23​
15​
Search
1338​
1​
-3​
16​
Bminchow
1334​
-4​
-42​
17​
Vladimir
1333​
-2​
-15​
18​
SafeBet
1322​
0​
-5​
19​
Del1962
1267​
0​
-2​
20​
Otoxiep87
1245​
1​
17​
21​
Triley36
1241​
-1​
-2​
22​
Leadbelly
1157​
0​
-2​
23​
Laarsland
1074​
0​
-47​
24​
Googolplex
1068​
1​
41​
25​
BluesInTheBottle
1062​
-1​
-1​
26​
Kazistuta
1013​
0​
-2​
27​
ChrisDK
1005​
0​
1​
28​
Nakazar
838​
0​
-2​
29​
Mellow_Velo
820​
0​
-2​
30​
Salvarani
769​
0​
-5​
31​
Koronin
701​
0​
2​
32​
RedheadDane
521​
0​
1​
Collective_Wisdom
1540​
-2​

Very good scores for our top three (taking advantage of the 2020ness of the price list?), and a top two who were almost unchallenged since stage 1.

Congratulations to Los Brolin on a dominant win with 4 of the top five on GC, to Rote Laterne on a second place and win in the secondary classification, to Luthor for an impressive debut in the GT games, and to all who entered via Velorooms in their win on average score over CyclingNews (1335 to 1283).

Thanks to everyone who entered, especially if you are neither Los Brolin nor Rote Laterne and have still maintained interest to the end.

Some "Where did it all go right/wrong?" tomorrow (I think I will have time: track and trace have tracked and traced me)

I wonder what month the games will be next year...
 
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For Bminchow, winning the Classics game and getting second in the Giro made up for a poor Tour showing, and (perhaps aided by high scorers in the Tour and the Vuelta failing to enter all four events) nets him this year's CQ equivalent of the Velo d'Or.

Thanks for your loyalty to these games to all who earned a place in the challenge.

ClassicsGiroTourVueltaTOTALChange in Vuelta
1​
Bminchow
2203​
1508​
856​
1334​
5901​
0​
2​
Armchair_Cyclist
1842​
1001​
1162​
1522​
5527​
1​
3​
Shalgo
1634​
855​
1174​
1587​
5250​
2​
4​
Salvarani
1664​
915​
1879​
769​
5227​
-2​
5​
AmisVelo
1114​
1201​
1528​
1375​
5218​
-1​
6​
RoteLaterne
1524​
657​
823​
2090​
5094​
7​
7​
Search
1227​
629​
1590​
1338​
4784​
1​
8​
Del1962
977​
1010​
1496​
1267​
4750​
-1​
9​
Scrool07
1284​
471​
1383​
1537​
4675​
3​
10​
Leadbelly
1215​
1471​
628​
1157​
4471​
-1​
11​
Mellow_Velo
1467​
1177​
888​
820​
4352​
-5​
12​
Laarsland
1098​
799​
1325​
1074​
4296​
-2​
13​
Comodoro
1445​
579​
655​
1549​
4228​
4​
14​
BluesInTheBottle
985​
667​
1503​
1062​
4217​
-3​
15​
Northerner
1257​
512​
968​
1354​
4091​
1​
16​
Otoxiep87
1481​
315​
1044​
1245​
4085​
-1​
17​
Googolplex
656​
1209​
1043​
1068​
3976​
-3​
18​
Triley36
1076​
614​
808​
1241​
3739​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
1607​
702​
819​
1540​
4668​
 
Reactions: laarsland
About a week later than I had intended doing it, but here are some rider/game stats:

Green Jersey points The riders who had a stage win or it's equivalent:
Green pointsTeams
ROGLIC Primoz
428​
0​
ACKERMANN Pascal
195​
0​
MARTIN Daniel
163​
7​
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
157​
14​
WOODS Michael
152​
11​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
142​
2​
GAUDU David
140​
15​
WELLENS Tim
140​
3​
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
120​
6​
CARTHY Hugh
111​
1​
BENNETT Sam
110​
1​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
95​
4​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
77​
6​
MARTIN Guillaume
75​
2​
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
73​
2​
VLASOV Aleksandr
73​
18​

And the managers who had them with their Green point classification scores
1​
RoteLaterne
682​
Martin D, Carapaz, Gaudu, Izagirre Vlasov
2​
LosBrolin
642​
Martin D, Carapaz, Gaudu, Carthy
3​
Fivezzz
612​
Woods, Gaudu, Soler, Izagirre, Vlasov
4​
Laarsland
595​
Woods, Gaudu, Soler, Vlasov, Grossschartner
5​
Shalgo
587​
Martin D, Woods, Soler, Vlasov
6​
SafeBet
576​
Woods, Wellens, Gaudu, Vlasov
7​
Yellow_Knight
562​
Martin D, Woods, Soler, Vlasov
8​
Search
561​
Woods, Gaudu, Cort, Vlasov
9​
Luthor
535​
Carapaz, Philipsen, Gaudu
10​
Googolplex
512​
Gaudu, Bennett, Izaggire, Vlasov, Grossschartner
11​
BicycleBoy
493​
Martin D, Woods, Vlasov
12​
ArchieBoy
490​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Soler, Valsov
13​
BikeRacer33
488​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Soler
14​
Northerner
483​
Carapaz, Wellens, Cort
15​
Otoxiep87
479​
Philipsen, Gaudu, Vlasov
16​
Bminchow
472​
Martin D, Gaudu, Vlasov
17​
Armchair_Cyclist
465​
Carapaz, Woods, Cort
17​
Scrool07
465​
Carapaz, Woods, Cort
19​
Vladimir
443​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Vlasov
20​
Comodoro
424​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Vlasov
21​
Kazistuta
396​
Gaudu, Izagirre
22​
Nakazar
342​
Wellens Vlasov
23​
Leadbelly
340​
Martin D, Vlasov
24​
Salvarani
332​
Woods and Cort
25​
Triley36
331​
Carapaz, Cort
26​
AmisVelo
330​
Carapaz, Vlasov
27​
Mellow_Velo
302​
Woods, MartinG
28​
BluesInTheBottle
237​
Carapaz
29​
Del1962
236​
Carapaz
30​
ChrisDK
225​
Martin G, Vlasov
31​
Koronin
142​
None of the above: Mas (54) best
32​
RedheadDane
67​
( Best: Poels/Oliveira, 25pts)
Collective_Wisdom
424​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Vlasov

Main game scorers Let's set 100 points as the cut off

CQ namestage ptsRed jerseyGCptsKoMTOTALTeams
ROGLIC Primoz
428​
216​
500​
70​
7​
1221​
0​
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
157​
90​
375​
40​
25​
687​
14​
MARTIN Daniel
163​
265​
25​
1​
454​
7​
CARTHY Hugh
111​
315​
15​
5​
446​
1​
GAUDU David
140​
165​
0​
15​
320​
15​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
54​
240​
1​
0​
295​
27​
MARTIN Guillaume
75​
96​
10​
70​
251​
2​
POELS Wout
25​
215​
0​
0​
240​
7​
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
73​
150​
0​
0​
223​
2​
ACKERMANN Pascal
195​
15​
7​
0​
217​
0​
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
17​
190​
0​
0​
207​
4​
SOLER GIMENEZ Marc
120​
74​
3​
0​
197​
6​
WELLENS Tim
140​
15​
0​
40​
195​
3​
VLASOV Aleksandr
73​
120​
0​
0​
193​
18​
WOODS Michael
152​
36​
2​
3​
193​
11​
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
50​
135​
0​
0​
185​
4​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
142​
15​
5​
0​
162​
2​
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion
95​
46​
0​
0​
141​
4​
BENNETT Sam
110​
15​
0​
0​
125​
1​
BENNETT George
8​
112​
0​
0​
120​
0​
KUSS Sepp
17​
84​
0​
10​
111​
5​
MÄDER Gino
40​
66​
0​
0​
106​
0​
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel
0​
104​
0​
0​
104​
1​
BARTA William
40​
60​
0​
0​
100​
0​

And how they helped each manager:
1​
LosBrolin
2424​
Carapaz, Martin D, Carthy, Gaudu, Mas, De La Cruz
2​
RoteLaterne
2090​
Carapaz, Martin D, Gaudu, Mas, Vlasov, Izagirre
3​
Luthor
1926​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Mas, Poels, De La Cruz, Izagirre
4​
BikeRacer33
1625​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Mas, Soler, Kuss
5​
Shalgo
1587​
Martin D, Mas, Poels, Soler, Vlasov, Woods
6​
Comodoro
1549​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Mas, Vlasov
7​
Scrool07
1537​
Carapaz, Mas, Poels, Woods
8​
Armchair_Cyclist
1522​
Carapaz, Mas, Poels, Woods
9​
ArchieBoy
1450​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Soler, Vlasov
10​
Fivezzz
1436​
Gaudu, Mas, Grossschartner, Soler, Vlasov, Woods
11​
BicycleBoy
1416​
Martin D, Mas, Poels, Vlasov, Woods
12​
AmisVelo
1375​
Carapaz, Mas, Vlasov, Kuss
13​
Yellow_Knight
1362​
MartinD, Mas, Soler, Vlasov, Woods
14​
Northerner
1354​
Carapaz, Mas, Wellens
15​
Search
1338​
Gaudu, Mas, Vlasov, Woods, Valverde
16​
Bminchow
1334​
Martin D, Gaudu, Mas, Vlasov
17​
Vladimir
1333​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Vlasov
18​
SafeBet
1322​
Gaudu, Mas, Wellens, Vlasov, Woods, Kuss
19​
Del1962
1267​
Carapaz, Mas, Poels
20​
Otoxiep87
1245​
Gaudu, Mas, De La Cruz, Vlasov, Philipsen
21​
Triley36
1241​
Carapaz, Mas, Kuss
22​
Leadbelly
1157​
Martin D, Mas, Vlasov, Valverde
23​
Laarsland
1074​
Gaudu, Soler, Vlasov, Woods, Izagirre
24​
Googolplex
1068​
Gaudu, Grossschartner, Vlasov, Izagirre, Bennett S
25​
BluesInTheBottle
1062​
Carapaz, Mas
26​
Kazistuta
1013​
Gaudu, Mas, Valverde, Izagirre
27​
ChrisDK
1005​
Mas, Martin G, De La Cruz, Vlasov
28​
Nakazar
838​
Mas, Wellens, Vlasov
29​
Mellow_Velo
820​
Mas, Martin G, Woods
30​
Salvarani
769​
Mas, Woods
31​
Koronin
701​
Mas, Valverde, Nieve
32​
RedheadDane
521​
Poels, Kuss
Collective_Wisdom
1540​
Carapaz, Gaudu, Mas, Vlasov


Best returns
PointsCost%age returnTeams
ARENSMAN Thymen
57​
8​
713​
0​
DELAGE Mickaël
15​
5​
300​
0​
MOLENAAR Alex
15​
5​
300​
0​
SCHILLINGER Andreas
15​
5​
300​
1​
WURF Cameron
15​
5​
300​
0​
DONOVAN Mark
43​
15​
287​
0​
MÄDER Gino
106​
42​
252​
0​
GOOSSENS Kobe
56​
24​
233​
0​
PALUTA Michal
15​
7​
214​
0​
WRIGHT Fred
30​
15​
200​
0​
GAUDU David
320​
164​
195​
15​
BARTA William
100​
57​
175​
0​
KANTER Max
70​
42​
167​
2​
CARTHY Hugh
446​
286​
156​
1​
FERRON Valentin
15​
10​
150​
0​
SUTHERLAND Rory
15​
10​
150​
1​
MARTIN Daniel
454​
324​
140​
7​
AMEZQUETA MORENO Julen
16​
12​
133​
0​
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel
58​
44​
132​
1​
POELS Wout
240​
185​
130​
7​
OURSELIN Paul
15​
13​
115​
0​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
92​
86​
107​
6​
DAVIES Scott
15​
15​
100​
0​
FROOME Chris
15​
15​
100​
16​
GARRISON Ian
15​
15​
100​
0​
OWEN Logan
15​
15​
100​
0​
VAN DEN BERG Julius
15​
15​
100​
0​

I had wondered whether anyone would consider a team with Roglic, although that would only have left 1.9% of the budget for the rest of the team. But a decent, although not great (11th in both Green classification and overall), team could have been composed

PriceScoreGreen Score
ROGLIC Primoz
3433​
1221​
428​
MÄDER Gino
42​
106​
40​
ARENSMAN Thymen
8​
57​
32​
DELAGE Mickaël
5​
15​
0​
MOLENAAR Alex
5​
15​
0​
SCHILLINGER Andreas
5​
15​
0​
GENIEZ Alexandre
0​
0​
0​
SALMON Martin
0​
0​
0​
3498​
1429​
500​

Wurf could have replaced Delage, Molenaar or Schillinger.

But the best possible team within budget was:
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
1281​
687​
157​
MARTIN Daniel
324​
454​
163​
CARTHY Hugh
286​
446​
111​
GAUDU David
164​
320​
140​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
611​
295​
54​
POELS Wout
185​
240​
25​
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
294​
223​
73​
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
244​
207​
17​
3389​
2872​
740​

Impeccable Picks

ROGLIC Primoz
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
MARTIN Daniel
CARTHY Hugh
GAUDU David

MÄDER Gino
ARENSMAN Thymen
DELAGE Mickaël/ MOLENAAR Alex/ SCHILLINGER Andreas/ WURF Cameron
 

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