2020 World Championships - now confirmed for Imola, Italy.

[TomLPC]

Peacocking to win the combatif rather than working to get a gap in the group on stage 17, attacking on the Peyresourde for 20 seconds, waving his arms around wildly during a bunch sprint on the crosswind stage, sums him up as a rider to me. Voeckler with more talent.

There's elements of him being entertaining sometimes in his attacks, but other times his actions have no purpose but the attraction of attention, there is a line that is often crossed.

Fantastic cyclist, every credit to him today, impressive, but not for me Clive.

"You aren't a cycling fan if you dislike him"

Come on, we aren't 12.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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[fbjim]

a child can enjoy a rider who attacks and has the talent to make it stick. you need an extremely high IQ to appreciate "tactical geniuses" who have all the talent in the world and refuse to show it for even a millisecond, like GVA

 

[Red Rick]

Koronin, please look away.

So much for Alaphilippe honoring his jersey

 

[Leinster]

also this is obviously far easier said than done but WVA should have known that a group with him in it had virtually no chance of cohering enough to bring back a strong chaser, not after the form he's shown. he absolutely needed to attack that group, maybe one guy comes with for the "well, i'm guaranteed a medal if this sticks" factor.

the sprint for second showed why it was silly for any other rider in that group to put in a single hard pedal rev on the front, anyway.

Attacking the others would have just killed any momentum in the break, and any chance Wout would have of getting them to help. His best chance was to just drive the group to get as close as he could to Alaf.

 

[red_flanders]

Well as a half-Flandian I was pulling for Wout, but what a worthy champion in Alaphillipe. Chapeau. Will be great to see a rider like him animating races for the next 12 months in the rainbow jersey.

 

[Blanco]

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I see you're new here, so I'm going to pass this...

 

[Red Rick]

Yep, let's keep the doping talk in the clinic section please.

 

[fbjim]

Attacking the others would have just killed any momentum in the break, and any chance Wout would have of getting them to help. His best chance was to just drive the group to get as close as he could to Alaf.

yeah, that's probably the more likely scenario with no real climbs remaining.

putting in some hard turns probably would have coaxed more steady rotation, though I think he still ends up having to drive the last few KMs. Trentin did that in Yorkshire, putting in hard turns even while he had Moscon in the group, though that was criticized and he did have the "advantage" of being with riders who were mostly non-favorites, and were happy to work with 30ish KM remaining.

 

[SafeBet]

I just noticed there was only one rider younger than 26 in the top30: Marc Hirschi.
More than half of them were 30 ore older.

Generational change uh?

 

[Red Rick]

I just noticed there was only one rider younger than 26 in the top30: Marc Hirschi.
More than half of them were 30 ore older.

Generational change uh?

They probably thought it was a Grand Slam instead of a cycling event?

 

[tobydawq]

I just noticed there was only one rider younger than 26 in the top30: Marc Hirschi.
More than half of them were 30 ore older.

Generational change uh?

Nicely spotted. With Van Aert and Hirschi getting medals I had the feeling that it was another day for the Next Gen but you're right about that.

 

[fbjim]

well, Pogacar did strut his stuff, to be fair. and you've got to give the Alaphillippe generation a bit more time in the sun before Remco starts winning every Classic.

 

[Anybody_but..]

I see you're new here, so I'm going to pass this...

Thank you very much.
I appreciate your kind of a acknowledgemnt for my ignorance of PPR.
That is why , as a NewBorn follower of this forum/thread from now I will not mention the name of valverde any more.
In that case, jf I would really had to mention him - I will call him piece of *** or sth like this.

 

[fbjim]

just call him "old wheelsucker", like I do

 

[tobydawq]

Thank you very much.
I appreciate your kind of a acknowledgemnt for my ignorance of PPR.
That is why , as a NewBorn follower of this forum/thread from now I will not mention the name of valverde any more.
In that case, jf I would really had to mention him - I will call him piece of *** or sth like this.

I bet you will last a long time on this forum.

 

[Blanco]

With that behavior I would say you very much look like that piece you're keep mentioning...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Thank you very much.
I appreciate your kind of a acknowledgemnt for my ignorance of PPR.
That is why , as a NewBorn follower of this forum/thread from now I will not mention the name of valverde any more.
In that case, jf I would really had to mention him - I will call him piece of *** or sth like this.

Alright, you're a piece of ***. Guess you dont mind that considering you have no problem calling others exactly that..

 

[TomLPC]

Thank you very much.
I appreciate your kind of a acknowledgemnt for my ignorance of PPR.
That is why , as a NewBorn follower of this forum/thread from now I will not mention the name of valverde any more.
In that case, jf I would really had to mention him - I will call him piece of *** or sth like this.

Hi Ray, hope you're doing well, is Brigid ok?

 

[Anybody_but..]

Alright, you're a piece of ***. Guess you dont mind that considering you have no problem calling others exactly that..

But of course.
For fans of valverde - i'm a piece of s..t. - that's obvious.
For me - you and him are the same - that's obvious.
EOT.

 

[Breezy1985]

So much for Alaphilippe honoring his jersey

This is amazing. I hope later after a few drinks they run around wobbling left and right making silly faces

 

[SarahtheDane]

But of course.
For fans of valverde - i'm a piece of s..t. - that's obvious.
For me - you and him are the same - that's obvious.
EOT.

I think the problem is your reaction to being told that there is a special forum for " Clinic" talk. Not who likes or doesn't like Valverde.

 

[hayneplane]

Strange race in that it’s rare for a course like this not to see at least one threatening group spring from distance with outside favourites and domestiques from the big teams.

Definitely would have thought with their squads then Italy and Spain would have been better getting guys like Soler and Caruso up the road. Surprised and disappointed that nobody followed the Dumoulin move as that was the point where they could have shaken up the race.

Alaphillipe timed it well and deserves it though I am not really a fan.

Another race continuing the trend of the last decade or so where well matched riders at the end of big long classics seem to be finding it increasingly difficult to reel in lone attackers with a single digit gap.

Too many riders seem more afraid of giving the rest of their group a chance than losing their own chance entirely through not pulling hard enough. It seems like riders now will only ever cooperate enough if they are of virtually the same level of finishing kick.

 

[Valv.Piti]

But of course.
For fans of valverde - i'm a piece of s..t. - that's obvious.
For me - you and him are the same - that's obvious.
EOT.

Interesting logic. Guess there must be a lot of ppl in your every day life that gets that treatment since they like x that you dont like and therefore must be a complete jackass. Do you also tell them that straight up, or is it easier for you on random cycling forum where you dont have to live with the fear of getting knocked the *** out?

 

[Koronin]

Strange race in that it’s rare for a course like this not to see at least one threatening group spring from distance with outside favourites and domestiques from the big teams.

Definitely would have thought with their squads then Italy and Spain would have been better getting guys like Soler and Caruso up the road. Surprised and disappointed that nobody followed the Dumoulin move as that was the point where they could have shaken up the race.

Alaphillipe timed it well and deserves it though I am not really a fan.

Another race continuing the trend of the last decade or so where well matched riders at the end of big long classics seem to be finding it increasingly difficult to reel in lone attackers with a single digit gap.

Too many riders seem more afraid of giving the rest of their group a chance than losing their own chance entirely through not pulling hard enough. It seems like riders now will only ever cooperate enough if they are of virtually the same level of finishing kick.

No idea about Italy, but I'm convinced non of the Spaniards were good enough to do anything more that what they did.