2021 Giro CQ Game

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Stage 1 Turin TT

Ganna has not had a total collapse in form, TJV have some nifty bikes, and Evenepoel is good, but not as good as he might have been.

Purple points
Purple because I don't believe that colour is ever called cyclamen; these points because these are the points that CQ gives to the top 10 in a stage. These points are not lost even if the rider fails to finish the Giro; the same applies to the 18 points that Ganna gets for having a pink jersey to wear tomorrow (but that is not in this classification).

GANNA Filippo
70​
0 teams​
AFFINI Edoardo
40​
0​
FOSS Tobias Svendsen
25​
1​
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves
15​
4​
CAVAGNA Rémi
10​
3​
VAN EMDEN Jos
7​
0​
EVENEPOEL Remco
5​
30​
WALSCHEID Maximilian
3​
0​
BRÄNDLE Matthias
2​
0​
MOSCON Gianni
1​
4​

The unique pick of Foss gives Otoxiep the first lead in this minor classification
1​
Otoxiep87
30​
2=​
Leadbelly, LosBrolin
21​
4​
Salvarani
20​
5=​
ArchieBoy, Nathanptz, RedheadDane, Yellow_Knight
15​
9​
Nyssinator
6​
10=​
Evenepoel teams
5​
32​
Rufs
1​
33=​
the rest
0​
Collective_Wisdom
5​

Pink points
The main game. This includes: the purple points as above; the pink jersey bonuses already mentioned; the points for GC standings (by far the biggest contribution to most riders' scores);points for the sprint jersey standings, on the same basis as stage points; and (starting tomorrow and up to a top ten by a few stages in) KoM classification points on the same distribution. The last three are projections, and so will gradually become more realistic projections as the race goes on.

Having three riders in the top ten, as Los Brolin has, will outscore having two as Otoxiep does, because the drop off in scores is not as dramatic in the GC points allocation as with the stage points.

1​
LosBrolin
770​
2​
Leadbelly
733​
3​
Otoxiep87
731​
4​
Salvarani
623​
5​
Nathanptz
601​
6=​
ArchieBoy
584​
6=​
Yellow_Knight
584​
8=​
Bminchow
492​
8=​
SafeBet
492​
10​
Nyssinator
472​
11​
DevilsElbow
469​
12​
RedheadDane
423​
13​
Del1962
399​
14​
Fivezzz
397​
15=​
AmisVelo
393​
15=​
Comodoro
393​
15=​
Mellow_Velo
393​
18​
Berflamand
389​
19​
Lecko
380​
20​
ChrisDK
368​
21​
BikeRacer33
364​
21​
Shalgo
364​
23​
Northerner
358​
24​
Madrazo
356​
25=​
Bonimenier
350​
25=​
Scrooll07
350​
27​
Koronin
343​
28​
Search
339​
29​
Laarsland
333​
30=​
Kazistuta
331​
30=​
Tobydawq
331​
32​
BicycleBoy
320​
33​
Rufs
268​
34​
Googolplex
251​
34​
Rote_Laterne
251​
36​
Armchair_Cyclist
208​
37​
Triley36
202​
37​
ZakaFan
202​
39​
Vladimir
177​
40​
BluesInTheBottle
154​
Collective_Wisdom
406​

The Dekker/Rubio tiebreak between the identical Bminchow/SafeBet teams, and the principle of separating any other teams with identical scores (ignore the top scoring rider, then compare the scores of the next highest that is not common to both teams) is not really worth applying unless the teams are very near the top: I will probably resort to it only if teams are in the top 5 and in the final table. But as an example, Archie and Yellow Knight have the same men as the top four scorers, but although their 5th men are both on 15 points, Sagan (for Archie) is higher in GC than Hindley (for YK), so if I needed to differentiate, Archie would be 6th.

Treat these scores with as much credibility as you would the current GC as a forecast of what will be the case in three weeks time.

Inter forum competition
I probably won't post it every day, but in the last few games I have taken to putting up an average score for the contributors from the two forums that host the games. I omit my score from the competition: I include Amis Velo, who I know in real life and often sends me his team by text or on the back of an envelope, on VeloRooms because if he does submit a team by PM, he does so there.
So far, Team VeloRooms has won every time.
After one stage Team VeloRooms (AmisVelo, ArchieBoy, BikeRacer33, ChrisDK, Leadbelly, Mellow_Velo, Otoxiep87, Rote_Laterne, Scrooll07, Search, ZakaFan) 428
Cycling News Forumites (everyone else, bar me) 394

The spreadsheet
Where all the real work is done, is available here: I won't paste the link every daily update, but you know where to find it. And if you actually know anything about Excel, rather than just hacking through it by trial and error like I do, and spot any gross inefficiencies in it, please let me know.
 
Lol I was that close to picking Dekker as my ninth rider. Curious to know who @bminchow would have selected as his 10th rider in case we had to pick one.
Dekker was his tenth choice, but his ninth choice was over the 100 points I (somewhat arbitrarily) set as the limit.

And your 9th man, Rubio, did the same job for Fivezzz last year, and was the reason that he got 4th ahead of Leadbelly (Hanninen only getting 15 points for finishing, while Rubio got that, plus 7 for 6th in the penultimate stage and 1 for 10th in the KoM classification)
 
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Dec 27, 2016
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Dekker was his tenth choice, but his ninth choice was over the 100 points I (somewhat arbitrarily) set as the limit.

And your 9th man, Rubio, did the same job for Fivezzz last year, and was the reason that he got 4th ahead of Leadbelly (Hanninen only getting 15 points for finishing, while Rubio got that, plus 7 for 6th in the penultimate stage and 1 for 10th in the KoM classification)
Yes, I picked Jefferson Cepeda as my nice ninth man. But I guess I didn;t pay attention to the points he had. Oh well. Maybe Dekker will win today.
 
Stage 2 A sprint and a minor internal war in UAE

MERLIER Tim
70pts​
3 teams​
NIZZOLO Giacomo
40​
0​
VIVIANI Elia
25​
4​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
15​
23​
SAGAN Peter
10​
8​
MOSCHETTI Matteo
7​
0​
FIORELLI Filippo
5​
0​
NAESEN Lawrence
3​
0​
CIMOLAI Davide
2​
2​
EWAN Caleb
1​
11​

Purple points

When teams have a large proportion of their budget spent on multiple sprinters, such as Merlier + Ewan in the case of the top two today, I wonder whether they are targetting this classification, or whether they see the balance of stage and GC points differently from me. But then, look where I am in the table.


1=​
BicycleBoy
95​
1=​
ZakaFan
95​
3​
Berflamand
70​
4​
Scrooll07
40​
5​
Rufs
26​
6​
AmisVelo/Kazistuta/Koronin/Laarsland/Nathanptz/Tobydawq
25​
12​
Salvarani
17​
13=​
Groenewegen +Ewan teams
16​
18=​
Groenewegen teams
15​
28=​
ArchieBoy/Comodoro
10​
30​
Vladimir
2​
31=​
Ewan teams
1​
36=​
The rest
0​
Collective_Wisdom
15​


Standings

The scores in this classification are cumulative, rather than fluctuating as in the main game.

1​
BicycleBoy
100​
2​
ZakaFan
95​
3​
Berflamand
75​
4​
Otoxiep87
46​
5​
Scrooll07
45​
6​
Nathanptz
40​
7​
Salvarani
37​
8​
Leadbelly
36​
9​
Yellow_Knight
31​
10​
AmisVelo
30​
10​
Kazistuta
30​
10​
Koronin
30​
10​
Tobydawq
30​
14​
Rufs
27​
15​
ArchieBoy
25​
15​
Laarsland
25​
17​
Nyssinator
22​
18​
BikeRacer33
21​
18​
Bonimenier
21​
18​
LosBrolin
21​
21​
Bminchow
20​
21​
DevilsElbow
20​
21​
Madrazo
20​
21​
Mellow_Velo
20​
21​
SafeBet
20​
21​
Shalgo
20​
27​
Comodoro
15​
27​
Googolplex
15​
27​
RedheadDane
15​
27​
Rote_Laterne
15​
27​
Triley36
15​
32​
ChrisDK
6​
32​
Del1962
6​
32​
Lecko
6​
32​
Northerner
6​
36​
Fivezzz
5​
36​
Search
5​
38​
Vladimir
2​
39​
BluesInTheBottle
1​
40​
Armchair_Cyclist
0​
Collective_Wisdom
20​


Pink points

Because the GC/Sprint/KoM points are projections based on current position, riders can move down the tables as well as up, so their scores can decrease as well as increase. The daily points changes show changes in rank in those classifications, as well as the daily stage points and the jersey bonus. That jersey bonus can build up very significantly: last year Almeida got more CQ points in the Giro than Geoghegan Hart.

I will only show a few of the winners/losers each day, and only those that have been selected for the game. Evenepoel's 2 seconds at the intermediate sprint today make a difference.

MERLIER Tim
140​
3​
ALBANESE Vincenzo
70​
1​
EVENEPOEL Remco
70​
30​
VIVIANI Elia
50​
4​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
30​
23​
SAGAN Peter
20​
8​
FOSS Tobias Svendsen
-25​
1​
CAVAGNA Rémi
-35​
3​
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves
-40​
4​

And because rider's scores can go down, so can those of a team, although that only befell one team today.
NameChange
1​
BicycleBoy
260​
2​
Berflamand
210​
3​
ZakaFan
190​
4​
Scrooll07
150​
5​
Yellow_Knight
136​
6​
AmisVelo
120​
6​
Kazistuta
120​
6​
Koronin
120​
6​
Tobydawq
120​
10​
BikeRacer33
101​
10​
Bonimenier
101​
12​
Bminchow
100​
12​
DevilsElbow
100​
12​
Madrazo
100​
12​
Mellow_Velo
100​
12​
Nyssinator
100​
12​
SafeBet
100​
12​
Shalgo
100​
19​
Comodoro
90​
20​
Nathanptz
85​
21​
Otoxiep87
76​
22​
ChrisDK
71​
22​
Del1962
71​
22​
Lecko
71​
22​
Northerner
71​
26​
Fivezzz
70​
26​
Search
70​
28​
Salvarani
62​
29​
Leadbelly
59​
30​
ArchieBoy
55​
31​
Laarsland
50​
31​
Rufs
50​
33​
Googolplex
30​
33​
Rote_Laterne
30​
33​
Triley36
30​
36​
LosBrolin
29​
37​
Vladimir
2​
38​
BluesInTheBottle
1​
39​
Armchair_Cyclist
0​
40​
RedheadDane
-40​
Collective_Wisdom
100​

Standings
Yesterday's successful teams are higher than today's, because the natures of yesterday's race makes more impact on GC than today's. Sprint stages are unlikely to bring about huge changes in the standings here.

NameTabulateposition change on day
1​
Otoxiep87
807​
2​
2​
LosBrolin
799​
-1​
3​
Leadbelly
792​
-1​
4​
Yellow_Knight
720​
2​
5​
Nathanptz
686​
0​
6​
Salvarani
685​
-2​
7​
ArchieBoy
639​
-1​
8​
Berflamand
599​
10​
9​
Bminchow
592​
-1​
9​
SafeBet
592​
-1​
11​
BicycleBoy
580​
21​
12​
Nyssinator
572​
-2​
13​
DevilsElbow
569​
-2​
14​
AmisVelo
513​
1​
15​
Scrooll07
500​
10​
16​
Mellow_Velo
493​
-1​
17​
Comodoro
483​
-2​
18​
Del1962
470​
-5​
19​
Fivezzz
467​
-5​
20​
BikeRacer33
465​
1​
21​
Shalgo
464​
0​
22​
Koronin
463​
5​
23​
Madrazo
456​
1​
24​
Bonimenier
451​
1​
24​
Kazistuta
451​
6​
24​
Lecko
451​
-5​
24​
Tobydawq
451​
6​
28​
ChrisDK
439​
-8​
29​
Northerner
429​
-6​
30​
Search
409​
-2​
31​
ZakaFan
392​
6​
32​
Laarsland
383​
-3​
32​
RedheadDane
383​
-20​
34​
Rufs
318​
-1​
35​
Googolplex
281​
-1​
35​
Rote_Laterne
281​
-1​
37​
Triley36
232​
0​
38​
Armchair_Cyclist
208​
-2​
39​
Vladimir
179​
0​
40​
BluesInTheBottle
155​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
506​


Tomorrow should see some riders losing time and GC placings, and therefore others gaining points apart from the stage points.
 
Reactions: Koronin
I am doubting whether a sprinter is ever a good idea. He needs to win a stage for sure, otherwise not a good bet.
I am happy to have picked Cimolai as my only fast man today, but had originally decided to go without sprinters. But I changed from Gallopin to Cimolai in the last minute (exact same cost). I have Gallopin in the main game and was a bit unsure where he would score in the Giro...
 
If a sprinter were to get, say, 2 stage wins, a third and a fifth, and finish the race in 3rd in the points classification, plus his points for finishing: that would be 215 points, equivalent to 6th on GC with no extra points or, more realistically, 7th with some low stage top tens. But it would usually be an expensive sprinter to be capable of doing that. If we have one dominant sprinter like Cav in his pomp, 5 stage wins and the purple jumper could be the second or third highest scoring rider in the game. And the GC guys in such a position would, most years, probably be of comparable price.

But more often, a cheapish second rate sprinter, especially if he can get over a bump, picking up a few 5th to 8th spots, might be at least as good a bet as a cheap rider picked as 8th man in the hope that he might get something out of a breakaway.


And Cimolai did get me the game win a few years ago by coming 7th or so on the Champs Elysees.
 
Stage 3 Bora shed most of the sprinters, but couldn't catch the break (and no-one else helped much.)

With the generosity of this year's budget, it would appear we all went for sprinters rather than break away men. In a 'normal' year, I suspect a known breakaway prospect like TvdH would have been on one or two teams.
Stage pointsTeams
VAN DER HOORN Taco
70​
0​
CIMOLAI Davide
40​
2​
SAGAN Peter
25​
8​
VIVIANI Elia
15​
4​
BEVIN Patrick
10​
5​
VERMEERSCH Gianni
7​
0​
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
5​
4​
BETTIOL Alberto
3​
0​
OLDANI Stefano
2​
0​
MOSCA Jacopo
1​
0​

Purple points
1=​
Salvarani & Vladimir
40​
Cimolai
3=​
ArchieBoy/Tobydawq/ZakaFan
35​
Sagan & Bevin
6=​
AmisVelo/BicycleBoy/Comodoro/Nathanptz/Rufs
25​
Sagan
11​
Koronin
20​
Viviani & Gaviria
12=​
Kazistuta/Laarsland/Scrooll07
15​
Viviani
15=​
Armchair_Cyclist/Search
10​
Sagan
17=​
Berflamand/Lecko/Northerner
5​
Gaviria
20=​
The rest (incl Collective Wisdom)
0​

Standings

NameTotal purpleChange
1​
ZakaFan
130​
1​
2​
BicycleBoy
125​
-1​
3​
Berflamand
80​
0​
4​
Salvarani
77​
3​
5​
Nathanptz
65​
1​
5​
Tobydawq
65​
5​
7​
ArchieBoy
60​
8​
7​
Scrooll07
60​
-2​
9​
AmisVelo
55​
1​
10​
Rufs
52​
4​
11​
Koronin
50​
-1​
12​
Otoxiep87
46​
-8​
13​
Kazistuta
45​
-3​
14​
Vladimir
42​
24​
15​
Comodoro
40​
12​
15​
Laarsland
40​
0​
17​
Leadbelly
36​
-9​
18​
Yellow_Knight
31​
-9​
19​
Nyssinator
22​
-2​
20​
BikeRacer33
21​
-2​
20​
Bonimenier
21​
-2​
20​
LosBrolin
21​
-2​
23​
Bminchow
20​
-2​
23​
DevilsElbow
20​
-2​
23​
Madrazo
20​
-2​
23​
Mellow_Velo
20​
-2​
23​
SafeBet
20​
-2​
23​
Shalgo
20​
-2​
29​
Googolplex
15​
-2​
29​
RedheadDane
15​
-2​
29​
Rote_Laterne
15​
-2​
29​
Search
15​
7​
29​
Triley36
15​
-2​
34​
Lecko
11​
-2​
34​
Northerner
11​
-2​
36​
Armchair_Cyclist
10​
4​
37​
ChrisDK
6​
-5​
37​
Del1962
6​
-5​
39​
Fivezzz
5​
-3​
40​
BluesInTheBottle
1​
-1​
Collective_Wisdom
20​

Pink points

6 of the top 15 from yesterday lost a lot of time, so most of those who were in the 4" group gained a bunch of GC points.

Gain/loss todayTeams
MOSCON Gianni
80​
4​
SAGAN Peter
71​
8​
VLASOV Aleksandr
70​
6​
FOSS Tobias Svendsen
60​
1​
EVENEPOEL Remco
50​
30​
CIMOLAI Davide
47​
2​
POZZOVIVO Domenico
34​
2​
VIVIANI Elia
31​
4​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
-10​
23​
SEIGLE Romain
-10​
1​
DEKKER David
-37​
3​

Maybe we are not so bad at this game after all; on a day of big changes, few selected riders lost much, and all teams are in the black.

TeamChange today
1​
ArchieBoy
205​
2​
AmisVelo
197​
3​
Nathanptz
196​
4​
Bminchow
194​
4​
SafeBet
194​
6​
Leadbelly
183​
7​
Otoxiep87
182​
8​
Rufs
179​
9​
Nyssinator
178​
10​
DevilsElbow
172​
11​
Tobydawq
164​
12​
ZakaFan
160​
13​
Berflamand
156​
13​
LosBrolin
156​
15​
Koronin
155​
16​
Salvarani
154​
17​
Del1962
153​
18​
Comodoro
144​
18​
Lecko
144​
20​
Fivezzz
142​
21​
Mellow_Velo
141​
22​
Scrooll07
139​
23​
ChrisDK
133​
24​
Northerner
132​
25​
BicycleBoy
131​
26​
Laarsland
130​
27​
Kazistuta
119​
27​
Vladimir
119​
29​
Armchair_Cyclist
116​
30​
BikeRacer33
112​
31​
Yellow_Knight
107​
32​
Search
105​
32​
Shalgo
105​
34​
Bonimenier
102​
34​
Madrazo
102​
36​
Googolplex
98​
36​
Rote_Laterne
98​
38​
Triley36
76​
39​
BluesInTheBottle
65​
40​
RedheadDane
60​
Collective_Wisdom
144​


Standings

If there weren't 18 stages left, one might comment on how the top three seem to be pulling away from the rest.

NamePointschange
1​
Otoxiep87
989​
0​
2​
Leadbelly
975​
1​
3​
LosBrolin
955​
-1​
4​
Nathanptz
882​
1​
5​
ArchieBoy
844​
2​
6​
Salvarani
839​
0​
7​
Yellow_Knight
827​
-3​
8​
SafeBet
786​
2​
8​
Bminchow
786​
1​
10​
Berflamand
755​
-2​
11​
Nyssinator
750​
1​
12​
DevilsElbow
741​
1​
13​
BicycleBoy
711​
-2​
14​
AmisVelo
710​
0​
15​
Scrooll07
639​
0​
16​
Mellow_Velo
634​
0​
17​
Comodoro
627​
0​
18​
Del1962
623​
0​
19​
Koronin
618​
3​
20​
Tobydawq
615​
4​
21​
Fivezzz
609​
-2​
22​
Lecko
595​
2​
23​
BikeRacer33
577​
-3​
24​
ChrisDK
572​
4​
25​
Kazistuta
570​
-1​
26​
Shalgo
569​
-5​
27​
Northerner
561​
2​
28​
Madrazo
558​
-5​
29​
Bonimenier
553​
-5​
30​
ZakaFan
552​
1​
31​
Search
514​
-1​
32​
Laarsland
513​
0​
33​
Rufs
497​
1​
34​
RedheadDane
443​
-2​
35​
Googolplex
379​
0​
35​
Rote_Laterne
379​
0​
37​
Armchair_Cyclist
324​
1​
38​
Triley36
308​
-1​
39​
Vladimir
298​
0​
40​
BluesInTheBottle
220​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
650​

Tomorrow should be somewhat similar, with climbers overtaking TT riders who have an unsustainably high GC position, mainly to the benefit of our teams. But presumably more beneficial to some teams more than others,
 
Stage 4 Into the Apennines in the rain, and uncertain GC significance

We did not cover ourselves in glory, with three exceptions, in the selection of breakaway riders. I have had Dombrowski in GT GC games for years in the expectation of this, but not, of course, this time.

PointsTeams
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
70​
1 (Blues in the Bottle)​
DE MARCHI Alessandro
40​
0​
FIORELLI Filippo
25​
0​
VERVAEKE Louis
15​
0​
TRATNIK Jan
10​
0​
VALTER Attila
7​
0​
EDET Nicolas
5​
0​
OLIVEIRA Nelson Filipe Santos Simoes
3​
0​
TAARAMÄE Rein
2​
2 (Los Brolin and Rote Laterne)​
JUUL JENSEN Christopher
1​
0​

Purple standings
Not worth posting tables tonight: two points move Rote Laterne up one place to 29 and keep Los Brolin steady in 20th, but 70 points bring Blues in the Bottle from 40th (and last) to 5th!

Pink Points
Well, as predicted, lots of non GC guys fell away (and a couple of presumed GC contenders), but a new bunch of interlopers have invaded the top of GC, and taken huge amounts of points, albeit probably temporarily.

DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
505​
1​
TAARAMÄE Rein
108​
2​
CARTHY Hugh
81​
15​
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
76​
27​
LANDA MEANA Mikel
75​
7​
CICCONE Giulio
59​
4​
BARDET Romain
55​
6​
MARTIN Daniel
47​
8​
FORMOLO Davide
34​
12​
YATES Simon
34​
39​
HINDLEY Jai
33​
3​
BUCHMANN Emanuel
31​
31​

POZZOVIVO Domenico
-30​
2​
MOHORIC Matej
-33​
1​
SAGAN Peter
-41​
8​
JORGENSON Matteo
-43​
1​
MOSCON Gianni
-137​
4​
EVENEPOEL Remco
-150​
30​
CAVAGNA Rémi
-225​
3​
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves
-241​
4​
FOSS Tobias Svendsen
-333​
1​


The range of point changes today is bigger than the range of scores after stage 3. The top ten in today's scores includes 8 of the bottom ten this morning, and the bottom seven today were the top seven this morning.
The boost to some of these teams may be a passing flattery: the damage to the Evenepoel teams may be temporary. The injury to the prospects of the Almeida teams seems more likely to last.

NameChange today
1​
BluesInTheBottle
684​
2​
Vladimir
328​
3​
Rote_Laterne
319​
4​
Armchair_Cyclist
293​
5​
Triley36
276​
6​
Googolplex
211​
7​
Kazistuta
151​
8​
Laarsland
124​
9​
Search
122​
10​
Mellow_Velo
119​
11​
Scrooll07
93​
12​
ZakaFan
92​
13​
Fivezzz
89​
14​
Madrazo
64​
15​
Bonimenier
63​
16​
Shalgo
61​
17​
Berflamand
32​
18​
Northerner
25​
19​
Bminchow
18​
19​
SafeBet
18​
21​
Del1962
17​
22​
BikeRacer33
16​
23​
Comodoro
7​
24​
DevilsElbow
-11​
24​
Lecko
-11​
26​
Tobydawq
-12​
27​
AmisVelo
-18​
28​
Rufs
-26​
29​
ChrisDK
-52​
30​
Nyssinator
-70​
31​
Koronin
-77​
32​
BicycleBoy
-79​
33​
RedheadDane
-210​
34​
Yellow_Knight
-262​
35​
Otoxiep87
-263​
36​
ArchieBoy
-278​
37​
LosBrolin
-279​
38​
Nathanptz
-282​
38​
Salvarani
-282​
40​
Leadbelly
-392​
Collective_Wisdom
99​


Standings
Whatever you thought of your team yesterday: think again. BitB pulls off the Foinavon/Steven Bradbury/Matthew 20:16 of all CQ game history by jumping from last to first in one go, while 4 of yesterday's top ten are now in the bottom ten.

NamePointsChange
1​
BluesInTheBottle
904​
39​
2​
SafeBet
804​
6​
3​
Bminchow
804​
6​
4​
Berflamand
787​
6​
5​
Mellow_Velo
753​
11​
6​
Scrooll07
732​
9​
7​
DevilsElbow
730​
5​
8​
Otoxiep87
726​
-7​
9​
Kazistuta
721​
16​
10​
Fivezzz
698​
11​
10​
Rote_Laterne
698​
25​
12​
AmisVelo
692​
2​
13​
Nyssinator
680​
-2​
14​
LosBrolin
676​
-11​
15​
ZakaFan
644​
15​
16​
Del1962
640​
2​
17​
Laarsland
637​
15​
18​
Search
636​
13​
19​
Comodoro
634​
-2​
20​
BicycleBoy
632​
-7​
21​
Shalgo
630​
5​
22​
Vladimir
626​
17​
23​
Madrazo
622​
5​
24​
Armchair_Cyclist
617​
13​
25​
Bonimenier
616​
4​
26​
Tobydawq
603​
-6​
27​
Nathanptz
600​
-23​
28​
BikeRacer33
593​
-5​
29​
Googolplex
590​
6​
30​
Northerner
586​
-3​
31​
Lecko
584​
-9​
31​
Triley36
584​
7​
33​
Leadbelly
583​
-31​
34​
ArchieBoy
566​
-29​
35​
Yellow_Knight
565​
-28​
36​
Salvarani
557​
-30​
37​
Koronin
541​
-18​
38​
ChrisDK
520​
-14​
39​
Rufs
471​
-6​
40​
RedheadDane
233​
-6​
Collective_Wisdom
749​

SafeBet sits 2nd above the identical 8 men in Bminchow's selection by virtue of Rubio being 68th in GC, and Dekker 163rd: neither of the tie-breaker riders have any points other than their likely 15 for finishing.

The inter-forum battle is a lot closer than it was, but VR stay ahead by 649-634.

Tomorrow should see very little change. Certainly when compared to this.
 
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Armchair, thank you for the update.
I was feeling a little sad in last place. When Dombrowski won yesterday I knew I had a good day; but wow, last to first was quite a thrill. Now there is nowhere to go but down, then again Ewan most likely is going to give another day of fame. It is now time for me to root for Bennett.
 
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Stage 5 Scheldeprijs d'Italia

We have done a better job of selecting sprinters than breakaway riders, but they are pricey.

Pointsteams
EWAN Caleb
70​
11​
NIZZOLO Giacomo
40​
0​
VIVIANI Elia
25​
4​
SAGAN Peter
15​
8​
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
10​
4​
MOSCHETTI Matteo
7​
0​
PASQUALON Andrea
5​
1​
GROENEWEGEN Dylan
3​
23​
BELLETTI Manuel
2​
1​
CIMOLAI Davide
1​
2​

Purple points

Nice to see some of our new managers at and near the top.

NamePoints
1​
Rufs
88​
Ewan/Sagan/Groenewegen
2=​
Lecko, Northerner
80​
Ewan/Gaviria
4=​
BikeRacer33, Bonimenier, Nyssinator, Otoxiep87, Yellow_Knight
73​
Ewan/Groenewegen
9=​
BluesInTheBottle, ChrisDK, Del1962
70​
Ewan
12​
Koronin
40​
Viviani/Gaviria/Pasqualon
13​
Scrooll07
28​
Viviani/Groenewegen
14=​
Kazistuta, Laarsland
25​
Viviani
16=​
Sagan & Groenewegen teams
18​
21=​
ArchieBoy, Comodoro
15​
23​
Berflamand
10​
24​
Rote_Laterne
5​
25​
Salvarani
4​
26=​
Groenewegen teams
3​
35​
Vladimir
1​
36​
Teams eschewing sprinters
0​
Collective_Wisdom
3​

Standings
NameTabulate
1​
ZakaFan
148​
0​
2​
BicycleBoy
143​
0​
3​
BluesInTheBottle
141​
2​
4​
Rufs
140​
7​
5​
Otoxiep87
119​
8​
6​
Yellow_Knight
104​
13​
7​
Nyssinator
95​
14​
8​
BikeRacer33
94​
14​
8​
Bonimenier
94​
14​
10​
Lecko
91​
25​
10​
Northerner
91​
25​
12​
Berflamand
90​
-9​
12​
Koronin
90​
0​
14​
Scrooll07
88​
-6​
15​
Nathanptz
83​
-9​
15​
Tobydawq
83​
-9​
17​
Salvarani
81​
-13​
18​
ChrisDK
76​
20​
18​
Del1962
76​
20​
20​
ArchieBoy
75​
-12​
21​
AmisVelo
73​
-11​
22​
Kazistuta
70​
-8​
23​
Laarsland
65​
-7​
24​
Comodoro
55​
-8​
25​
Vladimir
43​
-10​
26​
Leadbelly
39​
-8​
27​
Bminchow
23​
-3​
27​
DevilsElbow
23​
-3​
27​
LosBrolin
23​
-7​
27​
Madrazo
23​
-3​
27​
Mellow_Velo
23​
-3​
27​
SafeBet
23​
-3​
27​
Shalgo
23​
-3​
34​
Rote_Laterne
22​
-4​
35​
Googolplex
18​
-4​
35​
Triley36
18​
-4​
37​
RedheadDane
15​
-6​
37​
Search
15​
-6​
39​
Armchair_Cyclist
10​
-2​
40​
Fivezzz
5​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
23​

Pink points
Progress is mainly down to passing the unfortunate Landa, Sivakov and Dombrowski.

changePopularity
EWAN Caleb
85​
11​
EVENEPOEL Remco
25​
30​
VIVIANI Elia
25​
4​
VLASOV Aleksandr
25​
6​
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
15​
27​
CARTHY Hugh
15​
15​
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
13​
4​
MOSCON Gianni
12​
4​
YATES Simon
12​
39​
CICCONE Giulio
10​
4​
SAGAN Peter
10​
8​

MERLIER Tim
-45​
3​
SIVAKOV Pavel
-45​
15​
LANDA MEANA Mikel
-90​
7​
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
-362​
1​

NameGain/loss
1​
Nyssinator
173​
2​
Lecko
172​
3​
Otoxiep87
169​
4​
Bonimenier
161​
5​
Yellow_Knight
146​
6​
Rufs
145​
7​
Northerner
119​
8​
Del1962
112​
9​
Kazistuta
109​
10​
BikeRacer33
107​
10​
Scrooll07
107​
12​
ChrisDK
98​
13​
Mellow_Velo
92​
14​
Fivezzz
89​
15​
AmisVelo
87​
16​
Tobydawq
85​
17​
LosBrolin
82​
18​
Leadbelly
77​
19​
Armchair_Cyclist
76​
20​
ArchieBoy
74​
21​
Salvarani
69​
22​
Bminchow
49​
22​
SafeBet
49​
24​
DevilsElbow
41​
25​
Laarsland
35​
26​
Comodoro
33​
27​
Madrazo
30​
28​
Nathanptz
26​
29​
BicycleBoy
24​
29​
RedheadDane
24​
31​
Koronin
-4​
32​
Berflamand
-7​
33​
Search
-18​
34​
Rote_Laterne
-19​
35​
Googolplex
-29​
36​
Vladimir
-32​
37​
ZakaFan
-36​
38​
Shalgo
-74​
39​
Triley36
-85​
40​
BluesInTheBottle
-230​
Collective_Wisdom
39​

Standings

BitB's reign didn't last long, but he hasn't dropped as far as he had risen. (* = tiebreakers applied)

NameTotalposition change
1​
Otoxiep87
895​
7​
2*​
SafeBet
853​
0​
3*​
Bminchow
853​
0​
4*​
Nyssinator
853​
9​
5​
Mellow_Velo
845​
0​
6​
Scrooll07
839​
0​
7​
Kazistuta
830​
2​
8​
Fivezzz
787​
2​
9​
Berflamand
780​
-5​
10​
AmisVelo
779​
2​
11​
Bonimenier
777​
14​
12​
DevilsElbow
771​
-5​
13​
LosBrolin
758​
1​
14​
Lecko
756​
17​
15​
Del1962
752​
1​
16​
Yellow_Knight
711​
19​
17​
Northerner
705​
13​
18​
BikeRacer33
700​
10​
19​
Armchair_Cyclist
693​
5​
20​
Tobydawq
688​
6​
21​
Rote_Laterne
679​
-11​
22​
BluesInTheBottle
674​
-21​
23​
Laarsland
672​
-6​
24​
Comodoro
667​
-5​
25​
Leadbelly
660​
8​
26​
BicycleBoy
656​
-6​
27​
Madrazo
652​
-4​
28​
ArchieBoy
640​
6​
29​
Nathanptz
626​
-2​
29​
Salvarani
626​
7​
31​
ChrisDK
618​
7​
31​
Search
618​
-13​
33​
Rufs
616​
6​
34​
ZakaFan
608​
-19​
35​
Vladimir
594​
-13​
36​
Googolplex
561​
-7​
37​
Shalgo
556​
-16​
38​
Koronin
537​
-1​
39​
Triley36
499​
-8​
40​
RedheadDane
257​
0​
Collective_Wisdom
788​

Logic would suggest that the non-GC riders occupying much of the current top ten will fall away tomorrow, and the riders that we have been investing in (barring the unfortunate Landa: that is a big chunk of budget gone for 7 teams) should start sharing the big points. But this is cycling.

Lest you have forgotten where to find it: the spreadsheet
 
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Yeah... having Almeida on my team did not work well for me. But at least I'm on minus points... I guess...
The final table in an update is your game score: that can't be negative. But it can be lower than the day before, so your day score can be negative. And yours wasn't yesterday: all your riders either moved up the table past the stricken, or were outside the top 50 so GC position doesn't affect their score..
 
The final table in an update is your game score: that can't be negative. But it can be lower than the day before, so your day score can be negative. And yours wasn't yesterday: all your riders either moved up the table past the stricken, or were outside the top 50 so GC position doesn't affect their score..
Oh... I thought the number furthest to the side was the overall score...
 

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