Giro d'Italia 2021 Giro d'Italia, Stage 17: Canazei - Sega di Ala 193 km

[Mayomaniac]

A hard mountain stage the day after the final rest day in a grand tour. Surprises can happen.

We also had warm weather again after all that rain.

 

[HelloDolly]

Imagine if Landa had been there.

He would be lying on Evenepoel behind the barriers !!!

 

[Red Rick]

Hindsight is easy, but Bernal looked very labored following Yates' attack. No really need when hes so long back and you have Martinez

Yeah he looked less easy. High frequency lots of shoulder movement, etc. I'm not sure why he didn't just sit on Martinez.

Meanwhile my predictions are so much better when I'm trolling.

 

[limak_]

Maybe that plus dessert for Caruso................

Caruso had no other better choices anyway

 

[HelloDolly]

Joao almeida! Amazing ride, he improved is climbing skills. What a shame that stage four. Just 22 years, he will be in the fight in the next years for grand tours.

God job he is leaving DQS

 

[johnymax]

Martin, brilliant.
Almeida, phenomenal.
Yates, fantastic.
Martinez, excellent (minus the questionable pacing when Bernal was dropped).
Caruso, very good.
Bernal, still in pole position. Maybe it's only a bad day or maybe we have an open race again. Great final 5km.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I cannot believe, vincenzo, giulio, what a sad day (((((

damiano caruso is another day closer to the podium, we all hope for him.

stage 20 is the opportunity for a formigal type attack. trek, quickstep and bahrain need to go full guns blazing there

 

[movingtarget]

Yates was going to put well over a minute into Bernal but cracked a little towards the top. Still a nice gap. Great win by Martin.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Lorenzo Fortunato 12th on the hardest stage of the race from the bunch

But Scinto never took him to the Giro...
Basso and Contador knew that he was good, he was a trainee at Tinkoff in 2016.

 

[tobydawq]

I was agreeing with you. I’ve stopped reading threads on this forum because if it’s not about Colombians it’s about micro analyzing if Remco chews his bars correctly

Hmm, maybe it was a little bit my point. I don't know, it seems to bug me a little less than you as I could understand why he was talked about there. There was just not much reason to read too much into it.

 

[Red Rick]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

 

[Bonimenier]

Bouchard will be one of the happiest guys after Bernal didn't take the full points on the last climb.

 

[movingtarget]

Caruso had no other better choices anyway

Yes if he let Ineos chase he would have lost more time to Yates but maybe could have put time into Bernal near the top.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

 

[JosefK]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

Ineos might even put time into rivals on the flats tomorrow if there are crosswinds.

 

[46&twoWheels]

you gotta love how cute Bernal is when he abuses the italian verb "vigilare" in his RAI interview . He just loves it He's looking way more relaxed compared to his finish line destroyed look (well, no ***....)

 

[Red Rick]

Anyone remember the temperatures in the 2019 Tour?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Congrats to Martin. Incredible performance by him. He was pushing the whole San Valentino and Sega di Ala, had only 1.5 minutes before the last brutal climb and managed to win it. I didn't give him a chance but he did it. I really think he was the strongest guy in the race today.

Surprising weak moment by Bernal and Martinez helped him there. Almeida and Yates put time on him but the Colombian still sits comfortably in the lead. The problem is bigger if it's a back issue. Sega di Ala is surely one of most difficult MTF ever used - few GT climbs have 10 km+ section of 10%.

 

[movingtarget]

Martin, brilliant.
Almeida, phenomenal.
Yates, fantastic.
Martinez, excellent (minus the questionable pacing when Bernal was dropped).
Caruso, very good.
Bernal, still in pole position. Maybe it's only a bad day or maybe we have an open race again. Great final 5km.

Caruso has impressed me. If he can do a good TT even better.

 

[Fantastico]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

I don't think the chance is high, but it's definitely not zero. In the last few years I have seen too many riders in the Giro or Tour being dropped like a stone very early in third week stages all of a sudden. Moreover, a strong team does not really help if you blow up.

 

[jaylew]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

Unless it is his back. Otherwise, I agree with you - he still outclimbed almost all the other GC guys.

 

[BlueRoads]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

No, unless it's his back. In that case he could crumble completely.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

It was a performance reminiscent of Froome on Los Machucos but also of Yates on Prato Nevoso. If it was just a bad day I agree he'll still win, if his body is struggling otoh...

 

[Froome]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

If bernal is again with problems on his back, he will be in trouble.

 

[titan31]

Still think there's a 0% chance Bernal loses this. Not with this team at his back. Any long range effort is completely doomed. It's also not like Bernal got dropped by 15 guys today.

Ya, I'd be the same. Even if Bernal is weak on stage 19 and 20, I can't see him losing over 3 minutes to Yates on those.