2021 Spring Classics CQ Game

With all available body parts crossed that they actually happen, I hereby launch the Spring Classics game.


Your team is to be made up of 12 riders, with a maximum total cost of 3000 CQ points during 2020 (you could use this page, setting the year to 2020, or download the 20201231.zip file from here) or use my selection spreadsheet tool here.


The races that will give points are the one day races in Europe from the Omloop to the Radklassiker, ie:
27-Feb​
Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite1.UWT3
27-Feb​
Faun-Ardèche Classic1.PS
28-Feb​
Kuurne - Bruxelles - Kuurne1.PS
28-Feb​
Royal Bernard Drome Classic1.PS
03-Mar​
Trofeo Laigueglia1.PS
06-Mar​
Strade Bianche1.UWT3
07-Mar​
GP Industria & Artigianato1.PS
17-Mar​
Danilith Nokere Koerse1.PS
19-Mar​
Bredene Koksijde Classic1.PS
20-Mar​
Milano-Sanremo1.UWT1
24-Mar​
Oxyclean Classic Brugge-De Panne1.UWT3
26-Mar​
E3 Saxo Bank Classic1.UWT2
28-Mar​
Gent-Wevelgem in Flanders Fields1.UWT2
31-Mar​
Dwars door Vlaanderen - A travers la Flandre1.UWT3
03-Apr​
Gran Premio Miguel Indurain1.PS
04-Apr​
Ronde van Vlaanderen - Tour des Flandres1.UWT1
07-Apr​
Scheldeprijs1.PS
11-Apr​
Paris-Roubaix1.UWT1
14-Apr​
De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne1.PS
18-Apr​
Amstel Gold Race1.UWT2
21-Apr​
La Flèche Wallonne1.UWT2
25-Apr​
Liège-Bastogne-Liège1.UWT1
01-May​
Eschborn-Frankfurt1.UWT3
CQ has Loire-Atlantique and GP Cholet down as 1.PS races, but PCS, UCI and the races' own websites all have them as 1.1: if it turns out that CQ is correct, I will include them, as I will the GP de Denain if it is uncancelled.

Point scale (full version here)

Rank1st2nd3rd10thlast to get >5 ptsTo get 5 pts
UWT1
280​
170​
145​
62​
30th​
all finishers
UWT2
220​
132​
112​
46​
30th​
all finishers
UWT3
180​
108​
92​
36​
25th​
all finishers
PS
130​
78​
66​
24​
20th​
top 30


Send your team to me by PM on Cycling News or Velorooms by the flag dropping in the Omloop (its website still doesn't have a timetable, assume about 11am West Europe time) on Saturday 27th Feb. As ever, please try to send the CQ version of riders' names, and do not put anything else on the same line. I have sent my team to Comodoro, who was the first manager to send in a team.

Note the optimism in the thread title: I'm hanging on to the hope of Classics in the Spring. If fewer than 15 of these actually take place, I will aim to do something similar to last year and have a "Classics at some point in the year" redux version.

Any questions? Just ask.
 
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I thought I had posted this here last night at the same time as I put it on VR, but evidently not:

I hope teams will come in a rush in the last 2 1/2 days (only 2 now!): please remember that this game starts on a Saturday, not a Sunday.


Of the eight teams in so far, all have at least 2 unique picks, and 55 riders have been chosen. Two of them are on 6 teams, and 2 on 4.



It occurred to me that I have never established a rule in this game for what happens if a team is over budget and not changed before the deadline. I shall remove the cheapest riders that solve the problem, and make up the team with whoever is picked (on at least one other team in the race) that is allowable.

So if a team has a total of 3050, and the cheapest rider costs 55 points, I will remove him, and replace him with the highest priced rider who cost 5 points or less (and if there are 2 at the same price, the first of them alphabetically).

If the team total is 3080, and the cheapest two cost 30 and 55 points, I will remove and replace them with a 5 point cost rider and a zero, or a 4 and a one if there is no 5, etc.

If the team cost is 3080, and the cheapest 2 cost 30 and 85, I will leave the 30 point rider in, and replace the 85 with a 5 point man (subject to the above).


But it is very rare that this happens, and I am usually able to alert managers in time if there is a problem. And if you use the selection tool download that I have now added to the OP, it shouldn't happen at all.
 
Cant seem to access spreadshheet
Del seemed to get around the problem, and submitted a team not too long after his message, but I have removed the file from Google Drive and moved it back, which hopefully fixes it. The location may have changed: now here.

I haven't got time to look up the exact start time of the Omloop tomorrow, so let's call it 12 noon UK (also 1200 GMT/UTC) as a deadline.

So if you are in Europe and you are planning a lie in or a morning ride for your Saturday, better get your team in tonight.
 
So here we go: a slightly disappointing 22 teams, but with lots of bargains we could be in for some big scores this year, so long as the races take place.

Teams
Alphabetical order of teams, price order of riders, unique picks with an asterisk.

Amis Velo

VAN DER POEL Mathieu
VAN AVERMAET Greg
TRENTIN Matteo
NAESEN Oliver
JUNGELS Bob
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
MOSCON Gianni
JORGENSON Matteo
TERPSTRA Niki
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
VANSEVENANT Mauri


Armchair Cyclist

ALAPHILIPPE Julian
VAN AVERMAET Greg
NAESEN Oliver
STYBAR Zdenek
JUNGELS Bob
LAPORTE Christophe
POLITT Nils
SARREAU Marc
VANMARCKE Sep
MOSCON Gianni
TERPSTRA Niki
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl


Blues in the Bottle

VAN DER POEL Mathieu
STUYVEN Jasper
TEUNS Dylan
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
JUNGELS Bob
DEWULF Stan *
GOGL Michael *
POLITT Nils
VAN DER HOORN Taco *
VANMARCKE Sep
VAN DEN BERG Julius *
VANSEVENANT Mauri


Bminchow
SAGAN Peter
VAN AVERMAET Greg
WELLENS Tim
TRENTIN Matteo
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
JUNGELS Bob
THEUNS Edward
BATTISTELLA Samuele *
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
PIDCOCK Thomas
BRENNER Marco


ChrisDK
LAMPAERT Yves *
STUYVEN Jasper
MERLIER Tim *
TURGIS Anthony
DRUCKER Jempy
HOFSTETTER Hugo
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose *
NEILANDS Krists *
JORGENSON Matteo
VANSEVENANT Mauri
NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias


Comodoro
PEDERSEN Mads
WOODS Michael
VAN AVERMAET Greg
POELS Wout *
GILBERT Philippe
LAPORTE Christophe
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
RUTSCH Jonas *
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
HAVIK Piotr
REYNDERS Jens


Del1962
SAGAN Peter
VAN AVERMAET Greg
LUTSENKO Alexey
COLBRELLI Sonny *
NAESEN Oliver
CORT NIELSEN Magnus *
JUNGELS Bob
MOSCON Gianni
SOSA CUERVO Ivan Ramiro *
OSS Daniel
ARNDT Nikias *
PIDCOCK Thomas


DJSprtsch
PEDERSEN Mads
VAN AVERMAET Greg
LUTSENKO Alexey
COQUARD Bryan *
TURGIS Anthony
VIVIANI Elia *
LAPORTE Christophe
DE BUYST Jasper *
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
LAWLESS Christopher
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias


Googolplex
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
WOODS Michael
DRUCKER Jempy
STYBAR Zdenek
JUNGELS Bob
LAPORTE Christophe
POLITT Nils
DEKKER David
VANMARCKE Sep
PIDCOCK Thomas
LAWLESS Christopher
HENTTALA Joonas *


Josedin***
PEDERSEN Mads
SENECHAL Florian *
ASGREEN Kasper *
BALLERINI Davide
DEVENYNS Dries *
TURGIS Anthony
BRENNER Marco
HAVIK Piotr
HERMANS Quinten
NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias
REYNDERS Jens
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias


Just Some Guy
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
VAN AVERMAET Greg
WELLENS Tim
BARDET Romain *
THEUNS Edward
POLITT Nils
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
PIDCOCK Thomas
TERPSTRA Niki
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
HERMANS Quinten
REYNDERS Jens


Kazistuta
SAGAN Peter
MADOUAS Valentin *
TEUNS Dylan
TRENTIN Matteo
NAESEN Oliver
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
BOL Cees *
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
MOSCON Gianni
TERPSTRA Niki
VANSEVENANT Mauri


Leadbelly
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
MATTHEWS Michael *
VAN AVERMAET Greg
LIVYNS Arjen
POLITT Nils
ROWE Luke *
DEKKER David
VANMARCKE Sep
MOSCON Gianni
PIDCOCK Thomas
JORGENSON Matteo
VANSEVENANT Mauri


Madrazo
VAN AVERMAET Greg
STUYVEN Jasper
BALLERINI Davide
NAESEN Oliver
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
HOFSTETTER Hugo
STYBAR Zdenek
GILBERT Philippe
LAPORTE Christophe
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
TERPSTRA Niki


Mellow Velo
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
WELLENS Tim
NAESEN Oliver
TURGIS Anthony
GILBERT Philippe
JUNGELS Bob
THEUNS Edward
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
VANSEVENANT Mauri
DEBUSSCHERE Jens *
HERMANS Quinten


Otoxiep87
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
BENOOT Tiesj *
NAESEN Oliver
BISSEGGER Stefan *
LAPORTE Christophe
THEUNS Edward
LIVYNS Arjen
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
MOSCON Gianni
PIDCOCK Thomas
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl


Ray10
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh *
STYBAR Zdenek
GILBERT Philippe
LAPORTE Christophe
CALMEJANE Lilian *
POLITT Nils
DEKKER David
VANMARCKE Sep
PIDCOCK Thomas
HIVERT Jonathan *
EIKING Odd Christian *


Rote Laterne
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
VAN AVERMAET Greg
NAESEN Oliver
STYBAR Zdenek
GILBERT Philippe
THEUNS Edward
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
HALVORSEN Kristoffer *
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
PETIT Adrien *
LANGEVELD Sebastian *


Scrooll07
SAGAN Peter
VAN AVERMAET Greg
WELLENS Tim
DEGENKOLB John
NAESEN Oliver
VERMEERSCH Florian *
TEUNISSEN Mike *
PLANCKAERT Baptiste
VANMARCKE Sep
VERMAERKE Kevin *
PICCOLO Andrea *
VERSCHAEVE Viktor *


Search
WOODS Michael
VAN AVERMAET Greg
WELLENS Tim
NAESEN Oliver
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
STYBAR Zdenek
LAPORTE Christophe
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald *
POLITT Nils
SARREAU Marc
VANMARCKE Sep
KREUZIGER Roman *


SemirS
VAN AVERMAET Greg
WELLENS Tim
BETTIOL Alberto
TRENTIN Matteo
NAESEN Oliver
STYBAR Zdenek
GILBERT Philippe
THEUNS Edward
DILLIER Silvan *
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
OSS Daniel


Triley
PEDERSEN Mads
BETTIOL Alberto
DEGENKOLB John
TRENTIN Matteo
NAESEN Oliver
MOHORIC Matej *
GILBERT Philippe
POLITT Nils
VANMARCKE Sep
JORGENSON Matteo
TERPSTRA Niki
DE PLUS Laurens *


Josedin didn't actually pick half of that team, but was well over budget. So much so that even I as the legislator was unsure how the rules I set out above applied. But on taking out the six cheapest riders brought the team cost down to 2997, and although there were no 1, 2 or 3 pointers chosen, there were 6 freebies, so I put those in: I think that is the implication of what I described. The alternative would have been to remove the cheapest rider who cost more than the excess spend, and substitute in the most expensive selected rider with the remaining budget. I offered Josedin the choice, but haven't heard back yet. The alternative is in the spreadsheet as JosedinB.
 
Some difficult choises this year. It was very tempting to pick Van Der Poel with the option of many good cheap riders, but with many very good middlepriced riders it was a tough choise.

In the end I had to choose between GVA, Stuyven and Ballerini or MVDP, Pidcock and Jansen. And felt option one was the safest, and also really wanted to have Ballerini.

A bit worrying though that Pidcock and also Moscon (that I could not fit in either despite being a obvious pick) were so good today, but a good start with Ballerini that I can see is a surprisingly rare pick
 
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Riders

Sorted by number of teams
18: POLITT Nils, VANMARCKE Sep
13: VAN AVERMAET Greg
12: NAESEN Oliver
8: LAPORTE Christophe
7: GILBERT Philippe, JUNGELS Bob, PIDCOCK Thomas, STYBAR Zdenek
6: JANSEN Amund Grøndahl, MOSCON Gianni, TERPSTRA Niki, THEUNS Edward, VAN DER POEL Mathieu, VANSEVENANT Mauri, WELLENS Tim

The collective team will consist of the nine riders on at least 7 teams, plus 3/7 of the total of the seven riders on 6 teams. That comes in quite a bit below 3000 points, but any combination of the 6 without MvdP was much lower, and any with him was over.

5: TRENTIN Matteo
4: ALAPHILIPPE Julian, GARCIA CORTINA Ivan, JORGENSON Matteo, PEDERSEN Mads, SAGAN Peter, TURGIS Anthony
3: DEKKER David, HERMANS Quinten, REYNDERS Jens, STUYVEN Jasper, WOODS Michael
2: BALLERINI Davide, BETTIOL Alberto, BRENNER Marco, DEGENKOLB John, DRUCKER Jempy, HAVIK Piotr, HOFSTETTER Hugo, LAWLESS Christopher, LIVYNS Arjen, LUTSENKO Alexey, NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias, OSS Daniel, PLANCKAERT Baptiste,
SARREAU Marc, SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias, TEUNS Dylan, VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael
 
Josedin has asked to take option B, so he gets his cheap picks back and loses a unique pick in Kasper Asgreen and receives (not his choice) Bob Jungels.

His team is now:
PEDERSEN Mads
SENECHAL Florian *
JUNGELS Bob
BALLERINI Davide
DEVENYNS Dries *
TURGIS Anthony
LIVYNS Arjen
POLITT Nils
DEKKER David
VANMARCKE Sep
PIDCOCK Thomas
VANSEVENANT Mauri

That means that BRENNER Marco, HAVIK Piotr, NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias, SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias become unique picks for Bminchow, Comodoro, ChrisDK and DJSprtsch respectively. It also means that Vansevanant moves into the Collective Wisdom team in his own right, and the remainder of the score is 1/3 of the total of the remaining six men on six teams.
 
Team Popularity

RankTeamPopularity scoreUnique picksMembers of Coll. Wisdom
1​
AmisVelo
111​
0​
7​
2​
Armchair
110​
0​
8​
3​
Madrazo
102​
0​
7​
4​
SemirS
99​
1​
7​
5​
RoteLaterne
98​
3​
7​
6​
MellowVelo
97​
1​
7​
7​
Search
95​
2​
6​
8​
Bminchow
94​
2​
6​
9​
Otoxiep87
93​
2​
6​
10​
Leadbelly
89​
2​
5​
11​
Kazistuta
86​
2​
5​
12​
Googolplex
85​
1​
6​
13​
Comodoro
84​
3​
5​
14​
Ray10
82​
4​
6​
14​
Triley36
82​
2​
4​
16​
Josedin
80​
2​
5​
17​
JustSomeGuy
77​
1​
5​
18​
DJSprtsch
75​
4​
4​
19​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
70​
4​
4​
20​
Scrool07
63​
5​
3​
21​
Del1962
59​
4​
4​
22​
ChrisDK
29​
5​
1​
CollectiveWisdom
120​
0​
12​


There is a tab for the similarity of teams (hence the final column above. Armchair and Amis Velo share 8 riders, and the following combinations share 7:
Amis Velo and Kazistuta
Armchair and Madrazo
Armchair and Otoxiep
Armchair and Search
Madrazo and Search
Rote Laterne and SemirS

while there are no less than 11 teams with which ChrisDK's selection has nothing in common: any pair of teams that does not include ChrisDK has at least one overlap.


When the spreadsheet is put up, you will see that there are columns and placeholders for a "So Last Year" team, and scores of riders in this set of races last year. I thought I had calculated these, but mistakes came to light, so I am ignoring that for this year, but keeping the facility in the spreadsheet, because I will reuse the formatting next year.
And when you see the spreadsheet (I will put up the link after I have processed today's races, but that will have to wait for tomorrow), you will notice several columns consisting purely of commas: that is so that I can produce tables on Velorooms.
 
Major Purchases

Even in the year following 2020, while so many riders are available at ridiculously low prices, the riders who we spend most on are a major part of what makes for success or failiure in the game. So the picks of more than 500 points that we have are:

Van der Poel with Kragh: Ray10
with GvA: Amis Velo, JSG, Rote Laterne
with Stuyven: Blues in the Bottle
only: Mellow Velo

Alaphilippe with Woods: Googolplex
with Matthews and GvA: Leadbelly
with Benoot: Otoxiep87
with GvA: Armchair

Sagan with GvA: Bminchow, Scrooll, Del
only: Kazistuta

Pedersen with Senechal: Josedin
with Woods and GvA: Comodoro
with GvA: DJSprtsch
only: Triley36

Woods with GvA: Search

Lampaert with Stuyven: ChrisDK

GvA with Stuyven: Madrazo
only: SemirS

And for the same reason that rare picks are noteworthy, rare misses might be too: JSG didn't select Vanmarcke, Scrooll overlooked Politt, and both Del and ChrisDK decided against both of those very popular picks.
 
So finally we actually get to the races. I'll start with the simpler of yesterday's events:

Race 1; Ardeche Classic

Jonathan Hivert came 9th, scoring 28 CQ points for the only manager who picked him, Ray 10.
He was the only rider in the first 30, the point scorers, selected for the game.

errrm, standings
Ray10 28
Everyone else 0


In the Green Jersey competition, there are just as many points available in a 1.Pro race like this as there are in the monuments. Points are distributed as CQ points are for a stage in the Tour de France: 80 for the winner, then 50, 35, 25, 15 down to 1 for 10th: points for a shared position are shared. A manager's position in each race is the total of all his scorers.

So here Ray would get 80 points for winning, and everyone else would get 6.95 ( a 1/21 share of the total points 2nd to 10th). To keep the numbers a bit neater, I will take 6.95 off everybody, including Ray, who thereby has a 73.05 to 0 lead over the field.

You don't really need to see that on a table do you?
 
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Race 2: Omloop het Nieuwsblad

Riders picked for the game


Race Pos'nPtsTeams
1​
BALLERINI Davide
180​
2 (Josedin and Madrazo)​
3​
VANMARCKE Sep
92​
19​
5​
GILBERT Philippe
70​
7​
7​
SENECHAL Florian
54​
1(Josedin)​
8​
TRENTIN Matteo
46​
5​
10​
POLITT Nils
36​
19​
11​
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan
30​
4​
13​
LAPORTE Christophe
24​
8​
14​
DILLIER Silvan
22​
1​
15​
TURGIS Anthony
20​
4​
16​
COQUARD Bryan
18​
1​
19​
NAESEN Oliver
12​
12​
23​
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
8​
1​
24​
WELLENS Tim
7​
6​

and 26 other riders chosen for the game get 5 points for finishing.

PointsMain scorersGreen points
1​
Madrazo
464​
Ballerini/Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Politt/Garcia
80​
2​
Josedin
397​
Ballerini/Vanmarcke/Senechal/Politt
50​
3​
SemirS
305​
Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Trentin/Politt
35​
4​
Triley36
266​
Vanmarcke/Gilbert/Trentin/Politt
25​
5​
MellowVelo
247​
15​
6​
Comodoro
242​
10​
7​
Ray10
240​
4​
7​
RoteLaterne
240​
4​
9​
Kazistuta
231​
2​
10​
Bminchow
226​
1​
11​
Search
216​
12​
AmisVelo
206​
13​
DJSprtsch
200​
14​
Otoxiep87
199​
15​
Armchair
194​
16​
Googolplex
172​
17​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
153​
17​
Leadbelly
153​
19​
Scrool07
116​
20​
JustSomeGuy
73​
21​
ChrisDK
40​
22​
Del1962
32​
CollectiveWisdom
258​

In overall standings, Ray10 is 4th with 268, and everyone else is as they appear here (but one place lower for those 4th to 7th in this list)

And similarly, on Green points, Ray is second with 77.05, and everyone else's total is as here.
 
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Such a shame we only got 22 people. I should have helped advertise. But still appreciate that you are doing this. Even if i didn't have Ballerini or Pederson.
 
Race 3: Drome Classic

He's only gone and done it again: another UP for Ray 10 is the only scorer.
Odd Christian Eiking gets 5 points for 21st place, and Ray gets those 5 main game points and 73.05 green points again.

Standings:
(no real change, but a chance to test changes in the spreadsheet)
1​
Madrazo
464​
2​
Josedin
397​
3​
SemirS
305​
4​
Ray10
273​
5​
Triley36
266​
6​
MellowVelo
247​
7​
Comodoro
242​
8​
RoteLaterne
240​
9​
Kazistuta
231​
10​
Bminchow
226​
11​
Search
216​
12​
AmisVelo
206​
13​
DJSprtsch
200​
14​
Otoxiep87
199​
15​
Armchair
194​
16​
Googolplex
172​
17​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
153​
17​
Leadbelly
153​
19​
Scrool07
116​
20​
JustSomeGuy
73​
21​
ChrisDK
40​
22​
Del1962
32​
CollectiveWisdom
258​


Green points
Ray seems to have found a profitable policy of getting the points on minor races
Green points
1​
Ray10
150​
2​
Madrazo
80​
3​
Josedin
50​
4​
SemirS
35​
5​
Triley36
25​
6​
MellowVelo
15​
7​
Comodoro
10​
8​
RoteLaterne
4​
9​
Kazistuta
2​
10​
Bminchow
1​
 
Race 4: Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne


Race Pos'nPtsTeams
1​
PEDERSEN Mads
130​
4​
2​
TURGIS Anthony
78​
4​
3​
PIDCOCK Thomas
66​
8​
4​
TRENTIN Matteo
58​
5​
6​
COLBRELLI Sonny
46​
1​
7​
POLITT Nils
40​
19​
8​
VAN AVERMAET Greg
34​
13​
12​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
18​
6​
15​
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl
12​
6​
16​
NAESEN Oliver
10​
12​
17​
DEGENKOLB John
9​
2​
19​
LIVYNS Arjen
7​
3​
21​
BENOOT Tiesj
5​
1​
22​
STUYVEN Jasper
5​
3​
27​
GOGL Michael
5​
1​
28​
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh
5​
1​
30​
TEUNS Dylan
5​
2​


Josedin got the entire podium (solution B to his being overbudget was definitely a good idea)
This raceMain scorersGreen points
1​
Josedin
321​
Pedersen/Turgis/Pidcock/Politt
80​
2​
DJSprtsch
282​
Pedersen/Turgis/Politt/van Avermaet
50​
3​
Triley36
247​
Pedersen/Trentin/Politt
35​
4​
Comodoro
216​
Pedersen/Politt/van Avermaet
25​
5​
Bminchow
198​
Pidcock/Trentin/Politt/van Avermaet
15​
6​
AmisVelo
172​
10​
7​
JustSomeGuy
170​
5​
8​
Del1962
156​
3​
9​
Leadbelly
147​
2​
10​
MellowVelo
146​
1​
11​
SemirS
142​
12​
Otoxiep87
140​
13​
Ray10
129​
14​
RoteLaterne
114​
15​
Kazistuta
113​
16​
Googolplex
106​
17​
Armchair
96​
18​
Madrazo
89​
19​
Search
84​
20​
ChrisDK
83​
21​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
73​
22​
Scrool07
53​
CollectiveWisdom
160​

Green Jersey
1​
Ray10
150.1​
0​
2​
Josedin
130​
1​
3​
Madrazo
80​
-1​
4​
Triley36
60​
1​
5​
DJSprtsch
50​
6​
6​
Comodoro
35​
1​
6​
SemirS
35​
-2​
8​
Bminchow
16​
2​
8​
MellowVelo
16​
-2​
10​
AmisVelo
10​
1​
11​
JustSomeGuy
5​
0​
12​
RoteLaterne
4​
-4​
13​
Del1962
3​
-2​
14​
Leadbelly
2​
-3​
14​
Kazistuta
2​
-5​
16​
Everyone else
0​
-5​


Standings
RankTeamPointsChange in rank
1​
Josedin
718​
1​
2​
Madrazo
553​
-1​
3​
Triley36
513​
2​
4​
DJSprtsch
482​
9​
5​
Comodoro
458​
2​
6​
SemirS
447​
-3​
7​
Bminchow
424​
3​
8​
Ray10
402​
-4​
9​
MellowVelo
393​
-3​
10​
AmisVelo
378​
2​
11​
RoteLaterne
354​
-3​
12​
Kazistuta
344​
-3​
13​
Otoxiep87
339​
1​
14​
Leadbelly
300​
3​
14​
Search
300​
-3​
16​
Armchair
290​
-1​
17​
Googolplex
278​
-1​
18​
JustSomeGuy
243​
2​
19​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
226​
-2​
20​
Del1962
188​
2​
21​
Scrool07
169​
-2​
22​
ChrisDK
123​
-1​
CollectiveWisdom
418​


I wish Le Samyn on Tuesday were a 1.Pro race so that I could include it here, but instead the next instalment will be Laigueglia on Wednesday. That usually happens outside the timeframe of this game, so it is unusual to be including it. Ray 10 will probably have a unique pick in the startlist somewhere.
 
And after 4 events, the state of the battle of the forums is


CN Forumites (Blues in the Bottle, Bminchow, Comodoro, Del1962, DJSprtsch, Googolplex, Kazistuta, Madrazo, Ray10, Scrooll07, SemirS, Triley36) 374
Team Velorooms (AmisVelo, ChrisDK, Josedin, JustSomeGuy, Leadbelly, MellowVelo, Otoxiep87, RoteLaterne, Search) 350

And the spreadsheet is to be found, hopefully, here.
 
Race 5 Trofeo Laigueglia

One of the keys to this game is the balance between cobbled specialists and those for the hilly races. If many people had been aiming for big scorers in the Ardennes, we might have seen more points here today.

Those relevant to the game:

Race positionPtsTeams
3​
VANSEVENANT Mauri
66​
7​
12​
MADOUAS Valentin
18​
1​
15​
DEVENYNS Dries
12​
1​
16​
MOHORIC Matej
10​
1​

I'll take out the column for which riders yielded the points: it can easily be worked out. This time I did give the large number of low scorers some decimal shrapnel of remaining points.
This raceGreen points
1​
Kazistuta
84​
80​
2​
Josedin
78​
50​
3​
AmisVelo
66​
18​
3​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
66​
18​
3​
ChrisDK
66​
18​
3​
Leadbelly
66​
18​
3​
MellowVelo
66​
18​
8​
Triley36
10​
3​
9​
The rest
0​
0.21​
CollectiveWisdom
66​


Green Jersey
Green pointschange in rank
1​
Josedin
180​
1​
2​
Ray10
150.31​
-1​
3​
Kazistuta
82​
11​
4​
Madrazo
80.21​
-1​
5​
Triley36
63​
-1​
6​
DJSprtsch
50.21​
-1​
7​
Comodoro
35.21​
-1​
7​
SemirS
35.21​
-1​
9​
MellowVelo
34​
-1​
10​
AmisVelo
28​
0​
11​
Leadbelly
20​
3​
12​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
18​
4​
12​
ChrisDK
18​
4​
14​
Bminchow
16.21​
-6​
15​
JustSomeGuy
5.21​
-4​
16​
RoteLaterne
4.21​
-4​
17​
Del1962
3.21​
-4​
18​
Armchair
0.21​
-2​
18​
Googolplex
0.21​
-2​
18​
Otoxiep87
0.21​
-2​
18​
Scrool07
0.21​
-2​
18​
Search
0.21​
-2​

Standings
RankTeamPointsChange in rank
1​
Josedin
796​
0​
2​
Madrazo
553​
0​
3​
Triley36
523​
0​
4​
DJSprtsch
482​
0​
5​
MellowVelo
459​
4​
6​
Comodoro
458​
-1​
7​
SemirS
447​
-1​
8​
AmisVelo
444​
2​
9​
Kazistuta
428​
3​
10​
Bminchow
424​
-3​
11​
Ray10
402​
-3​
12​
Leadbelly
366​
2​
13​
RoteLaterne
354​
-2​
14​
Otoxiep87
339​
-1​
15​
Search
300​
-1​
16​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
292​
3​
17​
Armchair
290​
-1​
18​
Googolplex
278​
-1​
19​
JustSomeGuy
243​
-1​
20​
ChrisDK
189​
2​
21​
Del1962
188​
-1​
22​
Scrool07
169​
-1​
CollectiveWisdom
484​

Less than a point between the forums:

CN 387.0
VR 387.8

Staying in Italy for two more races at the weekend.
 
Last edited:
Race 6 Strade Bianche and what a race it was.



Race Pos'nPtsTeams
1​
VAN DER POEL Mathieu
180​
6​
2​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
108​
4​
5​
PIDCOCK Thomas
70​
8​
6​
GOGL Michael
62​
1 (Blues in the Bottle)​
13​
WELLENS Tim
24​
6​
19​
VAN AVERMAET Greg
12​
13​
20​
BARDET Romain
11​
1​
21​
MADOUAS Valentin
10​
1​
23​
BETTIOL Alberto
8​
2​
and five other finishers for 5 points each.

Pts this raceScorersGreen pts
1​
JustSomeGuy
297​
Van der Poel/Pidcock/Wellens/GvA/Bardet
80​
2​
Ray10
255​
Van der Poel/Pidcock/fiver
50​
3​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
242​
Van der Poel/Gogl
35​
4​
MellowVelo
204​
Van der Poel/Wellens
25​
5​
RoteLaterne
197​
Van der Poel/GvA/fiver
15​
6​
AmisVelo
192​
Van der Poel/GvA
10​
7​
Leadbelly
190​
Alaphilippe/Pidcock/GvA
5​
8​
Googolplex
183​
3​
9​
Otoxiep87
178​
2​
10​
Armchair
125​
1​
11​
Bminchow
111​
12​
Del1962
87​
13​
Josedin
70​
14​
SemirS
54​
15​
Search
46​
16​
Scrool07
41​
17​
Madrazo
22​
18​
Kazistuta
15​
19​
Triley36
13​
20​
DJSprtsch
12​
20​
Comodoro
12​
22​
ChrisDK
0​
CollectiveWisdom
155​

Green points overall
Green pointschange in rank
1​
Ray10
200.31​
1​
2​
Josedin
180​
-1​
3​
JustSomeGuy
85.21​
12​
4​
Kazistuta
82​
-1​
5​
Madrazo
80.21​
-1​
6​
Triley36
63​
-1​
7​
MellowVelo
59​
2​
8​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
53​
4​
9​
DJSprtsch
50.21​
-3​
10​
AmisVelo
38​
0​


Standings
RankTeamPointsChange in rank
1​
Josedin
866​
0​
2​
MellowVelo
663​
3​
3​
Ray10
657​
8​
4​
AmisVelo
636​
4​
5​
Madrazo
575​
-3​
6​
Leadbelly
556​
6​
7​
RoteLaterne
551​
6​
8​
JustSomeGuy
540​
11​
9​
Triley36
536​
-6​
10​
Bminchow
535​
0​
11​
Blues_in_the_Bottle
534​
5​
12​
Otoxiep87
517​
2​
13​
SemirS
501​
-6​
14​
DJSprtsch
494​
-10​
15​
Comodoro
470​
-9​
16​
Googolplex
461​
2​
17​
Kazistuta
443​
-8​
18​
Armchair
415​
-1​
19​
Search
346​
-4​
20​
Del1962
275​
1​
21​
Scrool07
210​
1​
22​
ChrisDK
189​
-2​
CollectiveWisdom
639​

VeloRooms 540
CyclingNews 474

Industry and Art tomorrow: I see Davide Rebellin is on the start list, but no-one has chosen him. I'm not expecting it to be a big scorer.
 
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