2021 Vuelta CQ Game

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A look at the numbers

Green points

Those who got a stage win or greater than its equivalent in stage points.

ROGLIC Primoz
445​
5 teams​
JAKOBSEN Fabio
290​
20​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
275​
1​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
167​
0​
STORER Michael
140​
0​
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
139​
17​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
135​
3​
DAINESE Alberto
118​
6​
CHAMPOUSSIN Clément
106​
2​
MATTHEWS Michael
89​
0​
TRENTIN Matteo
85​
1​
BAGIOLI Andrea
85​
3​
BARDET Romain
84​
6​
YATES Adam
76​
3​
HAIG Jack
70​
2​
CARUSO Damiano
70​
0​
MAJKA Rafal
70​
5​
TAARAMÄE Rein
70​
1​
SENECHAL Florian
70​
0​

How they helped:
1​
Triley36
915​
FJ/Cort/Lopez/Mas
2​
Mellow_Velo
908​
Roglic/FJ/Dainese
3​
Search
774​
Roglic/FJ
4​
Rote_Laterne
749​
Roglic/FJ
5​
Bminchow
681​
FJ/Lopez/Bagioli
6​
Comodoro
668​
FJ/Lopez/Dainese/Bardet
7​
Berflamand
629​
FJ/Champoussin/Bagioli/Yates/Haig
8​
Otoxiep87
625​
FJ/Lopez/Dainese
9​
SafeBet
621​
FJ/Lopez/Yates
10​
BluesInTheBottle
609​
Roglic/Lopez
11​
Northerner
601​
FJ/Lopez//Bardet/Yates
12​
Leadbelly
582​
FJ/Lopez/Majka
13​
Bonimenier
555​
FJ/Lopez
14​
ArchieBoy
548​
FJ/Mas/Bardet
15​
DJSprtsch
542​
FJ/Lopez/Bagioli
16​
Yellow_Knight
493​
FJ/Lopez
17​
Titan31
492​
FJ/Dainese
18​
Earns1985
480​
FJ/Lopez
19​
ChrisDK
478​
FJ/Lopez
20​
BicycleBoy
472​
Roglic
21​
AmisVelo
468​
FJ/Lopez
22​
Salvarani
464​
FJ/Dainese
23​
Rufs
450​
Lopez/Dainese/Bardet/Majka
24​
Vladimir
377​
Lopez/Champoussin/Majka
25​
Del1962
347​
Lopez/Bardet
26​
RedheadDane
317​
Mas/Trentin/Taaramae
27​
Koronin
207​
Majka
28​
Armchair_Cyclist
193​
Bardet/Haig
Collective_Wisdom
569​
FJ/Lopez and ave of Bardet & Dainese

The best scoring team I could find in this classification within budget is:
ROGLIC Primoz
JAKOBSEN Fabio
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
STORER Michael
DAINESE Alberto
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
CALMEJANE Lilian
Any of 12 guys with cost<22 and no green points

This lot would have scored 1328 in the green points classification alone.
 
Red points

Similarly, those who brought their managers over 100 points in total for the main game:

PriceStage ptsGC ptsOther †TOTALteams
ROGLIC Primoz
2583​
445​
500​
245​
1190​
5​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
867​
135​
375​
13​
523​
3​
HAIG Jack
375​
70​
315​
7​
392​
2​
JAKOBSEN Fabio
95​
290​
15​
70​
375​
20​
YATES Adam
792​
76​
265​
0​
341​
3​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
322​
275​
15​
25​
315​
1​
EIKING Odd Christian
271​
18​
120​
126​
264​
0​
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
1480​
37​
215​
4​
256​
13​
MÄDER Gino
438​
15​
240​
0​
255​
0​
STORER Michael
284​
140​
26​
70​
236​
0​
KUSS Sepp
396​
60​
165​
5​
230​
4​
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
367​
10​
190​
0​
200​
3​
CHAMPOUSSIN Clément
329​
106​
84​
0​
190​
2​
BARDET Romain
559​
84​
54​
40​
178​
6​
PHILIPSEN Jasper
1168​
167​
0​
0​
167​
0​
CARUSO Damiano
817​
70​
78​
15​
163​
0​
GROSSSCHARTNER Felix
356​
28​
135​
0​
163​
1​
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
81​
43​
112​
0​
155​
3​
MARTIN Guillaume
923​
0​
150​
0​
150​
0​
MAJKA Rafal
311​
70​
62​
10​
142​
5​
DAINESE Alberto
70​
118​
15​
7​
140​
6​
LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel
434​
139​
0​
0​
139​
17​
TAARAMÄE Rein
136​
70​
15​
36​
121​
1​
TRENTIN Matteo
484​
85​
15​
15​
115​
1​
MATTHEWS Michael
1000​
89​
15​
5​
109​
0​
LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
66​
0​
104​
0​
104​
2​
BAGIOLI Andrea
289​
85​
15​
3​
103​
3​
† Other points are Red Jersey bonuses, and points in the Sprint and KoM classifications.

And the impact of these riders on the game:
1​
Mellow_Velo
1887​
Roglic/FJ/Kruijswijk/Dainese
2​
Search
1659​
Roglic/FJ
3​
Rote_Laterne
1615​
Roglic/FJ
4​
Triley36
1613​
Mas/FJ/Cort/Kuss/MAL
5​
BluesInTheBottle
1592​
Roglic/MAL/Lopez Perez
6​
Berflamand
1418​
Haig/FJ/Yates/Champoussin/Bagioli
7​
Bminchow
1300​
FJ/Bernal/Kuss/Kruijswijk/MAL/Bagioli
8​
BicycleBoy
1298​
Roglic
9​
Otoxiep87
1291​
FJ/Bernal/De la Cruz/Grossschartner/Dainese/MAL
10​
Northerner
1265​
FJ/Yates/De la Cruz/Bardet/MAL
11​
ArchieBoy
1175​
Mas/FJ/Bardet
12​
SafeBet
1171​
FJ/Yates/Kuss/MAL
13​
Yellow_Knight
1038​
FJ/Bernal/De la Cruz/MAL
14​
ChrisDK
999​
FJ/Bernal/MAL/Lopez Perez
15​
Leadbelly
973​
FJ/Bernal/Majka/MAL
16​
Comodoro
899​
FJ/Dainese/Bardet/MAL
17​
Armchair_Cyclist
873​
Haig/Bernal/Bardet
18​
Rufs
872​
Bernal/Bardet/Majka/Dainese/MAL
19​
Vladimir
865​
Bernal/Champoussin/Majka/MAL
20​
Titan31
863​
FJ/Bernal/Dainese
21​
RedheadDane
846​
Mas/Taaramae/Trentin
22​
Earns1985
845​
FJ/Bernal/MAL
23​
Del1962
840​
Bernal/Bardet/Kruijswijk/MAL
24​
Salvarani
835​
FJ/Bernal/Dainese
25​
AmisVelo
832​
FJ/Bernal/MAL
26​
Bonimenier
743​
FJ/Majka/MAL
27​
DJSprtsch
694​
FJ/MAL/Bagioli
28​
Koronin
549​
Kuss/Majka
Collective_Wisdom
961​
FJ/Bernal/MAL + ave of Bardet & Dainese

Almost as important to having success as having Roglic was not having Bernal: once he had been bought, it was almost impossible to get enough points to make up for his relatively poor showing. MAL was not a total disaster in the game, unlike the more expensive and more popular Landa (and unlike Valverde: the two teams that paid out big for him occupy the last two places.)

But Roglic's score was so huge, and Jakobsen such good value, that you could reach the game's podium with Cepeda or Cherel as your 3rd highest scorer once you had those two (or make the top ten with Cerny as your second best if you had Roglic).

Blues in the Bottle got a very decent 5th place, but would actually have done better if he had opted for his alternative selection that featured Mas, Haig, Bernal, Kuss and Dainese (would have come 3rd). Mellow Velo, on the other hand, will be glad to have gone for this team rather than the alternative he shared that had Jakobsen, Yates, Bernal, Dainese and Lopez, which would have seen him tenth rather than top.

The best possible team I can find would not have Roglic or Bernal, but has 8 of the top ten scoring riders and is still within budget:
MAS NICOLAU Enric
HAIG Jack
JAKOBSEN Fabio
YATES Adam
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
EIKING Odd Christian
STORER Michael
MÄDER Gino
for 2701 points

I tried a few combinations with Roglic: the best I could find was very similar to the best green points team but with Cras instead of Calmejane, and Cabedo as the <22 price rider, getting 2549.

I have got a few more names and numbers to share, but must get to bed...
 
Best percentage returns

PriceScore%age returnteams
FINE Eddy
0​
15​
infinite
1​
CHEREL Mikael
5​
21​
420.0​
3​
JAKOBSEN Fabio
95​
375​
394.7​
20​
CABEDO CARDA Oscar
20​
70​
350.0​
1​
CUADROS MORATA Alvaro
7​
15​
214.3​
2​
DAINESE Alberto
70​
140​
200.0​
6​
CRAS Steff
35​
68​
194.3​
0​
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
81​
155​
191.4​
3​
LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
66​
104​
157.6​
2​
BROWN Connor
10​
15​
150.0​
0​
CALMEJANE Lilian
42​
55​
131.0​
1​
AZPARREN IRURZUN Xabier Mikel
13​
15​
115.4​
2​
PALZER Anton
14​
15​
107.1​
2​
HAIG Jack
375​
392​
104.5​
2​
SUNDERLAND Dylan
15​
15​
100.0​
0​
CORT NIELSEN Magnus
322​
315​
97.8​
1​
EIKING Odd Christian
271​
264​
97.4​
0​
TAARAMÄE Rein
136​
121​
89.0​
1​
SCULLY Tom
35​
30​
85.7​
0​
CEPEDA HERNANDEZ Jefferson Alveiro
48​
40​
83.3​
2​
STORER Michael
284​
236​
83.1​
0​
BAGÜES KALPARSORO Aritz
20​
15​
75.0​
0​
SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo
22​
15​
68.2​
0​
ROCHAS Rémy
134​
90​
67.2​
0​
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
100​
67​
67.0​
0​
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
87​
56​
64.4​
0​
MAS NICOLAU Enric
867​
523​
60.3​
3​
PUCCIO Salvatore
25​
15​
60.0​
0​
SINKELDAM Ramon
25​
15​
60.0​
0​
VAN MELSEN Kevin
25​
15​
60.0​
0​

Impeccable picks
ROGLIC Primoz
MAS NICOLAU Enric
HAIG Jack
JAKOBSEN Fabio
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
DAINESE Alberto
LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
CABEDO CARDA Oscar
CHEREL Mikael
FINE Eddy

Disaster picks
Cost more than average, selected by at least one of us, scored <10%
%ageTeams
POELS Wout
9.7​
1​
PIDCOCK Thomas
5.5​
4​
VLASOV Aleksandr
1.5​
1​
CICCONE Giulio
2.7​
5​
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
0.2​
2​
LANDA MEANA Mikel
0.4​
22​
CARTHY Hugh
0.0​
4​

And finally, the Four Seasons Challenge for those who have taken part in all 4 of the games I run during the season. Leadbelly was so far ahead in this that there seemed no likelihood of him being challenged: Otoxiep87 reduced the gap considerable, but not enough to stop the winner of the Spring and TdF games from gaining the year's top position.
Spring ClassicsGiroTourVueltaTotalPos'n change in Vuelta
1​
Leadbelly
2602​
1929​
1893​
973​
7397​
0​
2​
Otoxiep87
2248​
2115​
1501​
1291​
7155​
0​
3​
Mellow_Velo
1994​
2049​
773​
1887​
6703​
2​
4​
Rote_Laterne
1938​
1819​
1168​
1615​
6540​
0​
5​
AmisVelo
2249​
1281​
1675​
832​
6037​
-2​
6​
BluesInTheBottle
1928​
982​
1507​
1592​
6009​
3​
7​
Triley36
1546​
1581​
1135​
1613​
5875​
4​
8​
Bminchow
2112​
1927​
509​
1300​
5848​
0​
9​
Comodoro
1594​
1795​
1283​
899​
5571​
-3​
10​
Del1962
1705​
1733​
1149​
840​
5427​
-3​
11​
Search
1766​
930​
919​
1659​
5274​
1​
12​
Armchair_Cyclist
2026​
2027​
278​
873​
5204​
-2​
Collective_Wisdom
2397​
1796​
707​
961​
5861​

In the Four Seasons, the average scores are
Velorooms 6481 (Leadbelly, Otoxiep, Rote Laterne, Amis Velo, Search)
CN 5746 (BitB, TRiley36, Bminchow, Comodoro, Del1962)
(Mellow Velo not included, as he has contributed by both for different games)

Thanks to all who entered the Vuelta game, or any of these; well done to Mellow Velo, to TRiley for the minor classification, and to Leadbelly for the consistency through the year.

And thanks to CQRankings, without whom none of this would have been possible.
 

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