Giro d'Italia 2022 Giro d'Italia, Stage 4: Avola – Etna 170 km (Tuesday, May 10th)

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

To be fair with regards to the complaints about the coverage: What exactly had the GC group to offer? A half arsed Buchmann attack? Ineos chuchuing? Yates rubbing his knee? Didn't bother me too much that they were focussing on the front guys.

 

[movingtarget]

Embarassing camera work.
When the French are sending people to produce our races they aren't sending their best...

This stage needed to be directed by David Lynch...........

 

[Ilmaestro99]

To be fair with regards to the complaints about the coverage: What exactly had the GC group to offer? A half arsed Buchmann attack? Ineos chuchuing? Yates rubbing his knee? Didn't bother me too much that they were focussing on the front guys.

As much TV time for Landa as possible

 

[movingtarget]

Ineos are so stupid again. They pull all climb for nothing except to drop Nibali and Dumoulin, meanwhile their rivals do nothing except a little sprint on the finale to maintain the form

Should have saved Richie for the tougher stages where he could do more damage but this is the Ineos way. Bury the domestiques unnecessarily on every stage for reasons unknown.............

 

[gunara]

To be fair with regards to the complaints about the coverage: What exactly had the GC group to offer? A half arsed Buchmann attack? Ineos chuchuing? Yates rubbing his knee? Didn't bother me too much that they were focussing on the front guys.

I had the feeling they would miss it if something did happen. You know most of the times you catch the moment of an attack, even 'the look's, instead of getting the cut after the action happen. Today they didn't even give a sense of anticipation.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

fun battle for the stage win.

Meh GC day, although plenty of write offs.
Nibali... guess he is too old
Dumoulin.. just painful to watch as a fan. Guess I can totally write him off as a GC rider for the future now.
Not much other suprises.

 

[movingtarget]

Well taken win by Kamna. He looked confident with the chase and did everything right in the final km.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Tbf, making it a bit harder to see if Yates was feeling the crash wasn't a bad idea.
Nibali still finished ahead of Mollema, at least that's something.

Mollema is not going for GC at all though.

 

[tobydawq]

I had the feeling they would miss it if something did happen. You know most of the times you catch the moment of an attack, even 'the look's, instead of getting the cut after the action happen. Today they didn't even give a sense of anticipation.

Yeah, it's very easy to be smart-assed after the stage and say that nothing happened.

I want to see what the favourites look like, if they seem fresh or laboured, and that was just impossible today.

It's an absolute no-brainer that the peloton should have a lot of coverage on a MTF.

Also, we should see who was dropped and for a longer time than what they chose to show.

 

[Pirazziattacks]

Astana's team is so crap all they can do is go in breakaways really. Jumbo probably same but they also have the TT to potentially win a stage

I'd say Foss will keep fighting for 10th place, he's not really someone who strikes me as a useful stage hunter.

 

[gunara]

Yeah, it's very easy to be smart-assed after the stage and say that nothing happened.

I want to see what the favourites look like, if they seem fresh or laboured, and that was just impossible today.

It's an absolute no-brainer that the peloton should have a lot of coverage on a MTF.

Also, we should see who was dropped and for a longer time than what they chose to show.

Exactly. And it's part of their job to present a race as at least 0.1% better than it really is.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Poels +16 minutes. Landa, Bilbao and Buitrago were strong, I am hoping they are just saving wout like Sky used to do and there is no issues

 

[Valv.Piti]

At least the break was fun and there was a pink jersey on the line, so it was not your typical 'who gives a ***-break' from La Vuelta, but yeah, on a finish like today Im completely fine with the break getting more coverage, but we need ALOT more from the peloton. Even on a weak side of Etna in headwind which proved to actually be a bit more selective that I thought (lots of riders was dropped)

 

[tobydawq]

Is Mareczko really going to be outside the time limit?

 

[Valv.Piti]

Is Mareczko really going to be outside the time limit?

Hopefully, so Van der Poel can stop thinking he should do lead-outs for him for some strange reason

 

[Mayomaniac]

Mollema is not going for GC at all though.

Yeah, sadly I know that!

 

[Mayomaniac]

Poels +16 minutes. Landa, Bilbao and Buitrago were strong, I am hoping they are just saving wout like Sky used to do and there is no issues

With Wout often even having bad days in one week stage races you never know if they are saving him or if he has a bad day.

 

[Bolder]

Nah I don’t know. I think they also do this to reduce the stress in stages to come. They got rid of quite a few teams with GC ambitions here like Jumbo, Cofidis, Astana. So now they have established themselves as the team that controls the race, which is what they like.

I don't think it was bad either. You bring riders like Sivakov and Porte to be mountain domestiques, after all.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Hopefully, so Van der Poel can stop thinking he should do lead-outs for him for some strange reason

Jakub could have the best sprint train in the world and he'd still manage to loose it's wheel, he just sucks at positioning himself before a sprint.

 

[Netserk]

Don't see how there could have been a deal: Kamna had nothing to offer (Lopez had control of the jersey whatever Kamna did), and Lopez obviously looked fed up at having messed up his sprint for the stage.

The deal would be that they would work together and not play games. If Kämna hadn't taken a single pull, Taaramäe could maybe have challenged the stage win, and Lopez's buffer for defending pink would be smaller.

 

[AlfaLum]

Positive suprises:

• A very good Bora with Kelderman, Buchmann, Hindley and Kamna
• A very good Bahrain with Landismo (he will finish top-2 yes), Bilbao and Buitrago
• A more than decent Bike-Exchange with Hamilton looking very strong in support for Yates
• A more than decent DSM with a very good Arensman in support for Bardet
• Ciccone and Almeida going pretty good early one, while one might hope they peak in week 3
• Valverde and Sosa giving Movistar some options of a decent GC

Expected events:

• Dumoulin dropping very bad on a climb once more as has been the case everywhere recently
• Nibali dropping to not really play a role in GC
• Gui Martin dropping, because he is just a **** rider who will probably get close to a GC top-10 again anyhow (Sorry, one of the few riders I truly dislike)
• UAE looking very weak in support for Almeida for now

Unpleasant suprises:

• Skjelmose dropping quite easily, I had hoped a bit more, but he will have chances to redeem himself, and at least it puts Ciccone into a single leadership role if he maintains this form once Lopez loses pink
• Poels being in poor form in support of Landa and Bilbao
• Foss and Oomen also dropping making sure that Jumbo is effectively out of the race already so early on

All in all the signs are there for a great final week and for some nice additional stages in the 1,5 week to come. Ineos looks strong, but the good thing is that Bahrain (Why Tratnik, why!?), Bora, Bike-Exchange, DSM also seem to have multiple options, which might make this a nice tactical race on occasions as well.

 

[Ricco']

Kuba not even OTL, straight DNF.

Without having to babysit him, Alpecin to spice things up in Portella Mandrazzi tomorrow?

 

[tobydawq]

Mareczko DNF

Great ride.

 

[titan31]

Is Mareczko really going to be outside the time limit?

Think there's two not in. I've 172 and Lopez on PCS and 175 finished yesterday.

NM, it's now changed to 173, Lopez and Mareczko

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Kuba not even OTL, straight DNF.

Without having to babysit him, Alpecin to spice things up in Portella Mandrazzi tomorrow?

What a Giro for Mareckzo