2022 Vuelta a España stage 3: Breda - Breda 194km

[Red Rick]

I gotta give credit for the break, this is the most combative break in a completely pointless flat GT stage this season

 

[tobydawq]

I gotta give credit for the break, this is the most combative break in a completely pointless flat GT stage this season

Pointless stage?

 

[Rollthedice]

What was his reply?

Actually he wasn't asked about voodoo but about what tricks he employs to stay out of trouble in stages like this.

 

[BR2]

The moment that Lotto rider turned further to stop in the roundabout I actually thought he was going to take the whole round...

 

[BR2]

Noooo... commentator: the organizers are very content with this start in the Netherlands and will very likely come back here...

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Actually he wasn't asked about voodoo but about what tricks he employs to stay out of trouble in stages like this.

Anti voodoo then.

 

[Carols]

Actually he wasn't asked about voodoo but about what tricks he employs to stay out of trouble in stages like this.

And his reply was?

 

[RedheadDane]

"We hope to keep feeding you."

Well, that's seems a bit omnious. However, I like this way of getting your message across, rather than the "completely stop the race" approach.

 

[BR2]

It would be cool if they got mountain points for every drempel.

 

[Rollthedice]

And his reply was?

Longer one on positioning, awareness.

 

[houtdffan]

Isn't this illegal pacing for Ineos?

Shouldn't there be a penalty? Carapaz isn't even trying to jump from car to car. He's being motorpaced!

 

[Bonimenier]

Isn't this illegal pacing for Ineos?

Shouldn't there be a penalty? Carapaz isn't even trying to jump from car to car. He's being motorpaced!

First time you ever saw someone return to the peloton after a crash/mechanical?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Noooo... commentator: the organizers are very content with this start in the Netherlands and will very likely come back here...

The Dutch pay good money to GT organisers to host the races, and the crappy boring flat stages which aren't as good as lowland racing in one-day races or smaller stage races (largely due to everybody having something to protect for three weeks rather than it being worth taking risks here, and a bunch of riders who aren't used to this type of racing being in the bunch) make Unipublic's disappointing mountain stages look better, so why wouldn't they be happy with it? As long as the Dutch don't design a demolition derby, which is always a possibility with their road furniture, and half the contenders crash out before they get to Spain, then it works for everybody. Except the fans, who have been served up a lot of awful Grand Départs in recent years. The Netherlands feels like it's hosted more GT starts than the actual GT hosts in the last 15 years.

Dutch starts have worked out OK a couple of times though, the 2010 Giro and the 2015 Tour are examples of that.

 

[houtdffan]

First time you ever saw someone return to the peloton after a crash/mechanical?

This is blatant, however. Normally, they go car to car

Wasn't someone DQed a few years ago in PN for doing this? I think it was Pinot

 

[Bonimenier]

This is blatant, however. Normally, they go car to car

Wasn't someone DQed a few years ago in PN for doing this? I think it was Pinot

No it isn't.
No there wasn't.

 

[RedheadDane]

This is blatant, however. Normally, they go car to car

Wasn't someone DQed a few years ago in PN for doing this? I think it was Pinot

Pretty sure it was Bardet. Or Barguil. One of the Bars.

 

[fbjim]

by loose convention they usually don't care that much about a GC rider crashing on a sprint day, though it depends how much the organizers are desperate for drama to happen on an incredibly long bridge

 

[houtdffan]

No it isn't.
No there wasn't.

Yeah, there was. Someone else also posted about it.

 

[houtdffan]

Pretty sure it was Bardet. Or Barguil. One of the Bars.

You were right, Bardet

‘I made a mistake’ says Romain Bardet after Paris-Nice disqualification

Romain Bardet has apologised after being disqualified from Paris-Nice for taking an illegal tow from his team car when chasing

www.cyclist.co.uk

@Bonimeiner, don't be so quick to make absolute statements. You came off as dead wrong

 

[RedheadDane]

I knew it was a french rider who was given the boot for doing what Carapaz did

Turns out... it was both! Bardet in 2017, Barguil in 2020.

(Not gonna post any links, as they only articles I have found are CN articles, and I don't wanna waste my clicks.)

 

[Bonimenier]

Yeah, there was. Someone else also posted about it.

That was not remotely the same as what Bardet did back in the day. Peloton was already shattered to pieces that day.

 

[fbjim]

it's sort of a series of loose conventions but doing so when the racing is "on", or in a major one-day race is going to be far more scrutinized than if a GC guy crashes on a flat day during normal break/catch racing. also depends on how many times the commissar yells at you

 

[RedheadDane]

Bennett again ahead of Mads P. again.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Bennett!

 

[Bonimenier]

You were right, Bardet

‘I made a mistake’ says Romain Bardet after Paris-Nice disqualification

Romain Bardet has apologised after being disqualified from Paris-Nice for taking an illegal tow from his team car when chasing

www.cyclist.co.uk

@Bonimeiner, don't be so quick to make absolute statements. You came off as dead wrong

No I didn't. The situations in both races were completely different.