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Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d’Italia, Stage 20: Tarvisio- Monte Lussari, 18.6km MTT

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Congrats to Primoz Roglic he proved he is the strongest rider and fully deserves to win this Giro.

We can complain about the heavily backended route discouraging attacks but we can’t complain about the winner - or the final podium. The top three riders today finished top 3 on GC and were the strongest riders in this Giro. Most fans seem to prefer “entertainment” no matter what. I prefer to see the strongest riders prevail.

Congrats also to Geraint Thomas and especially João Almeida. Almeida snared his first grand tour podium and Thomas proved he could be at a top level so late in his career.
 
Disagree. It was pretty bad, borderline terrible. He was the best climber and time trialist on paper that year, and stage like that is really his specialty.
Let's say Roglič didn't have a mechanical today and 3rd place Almeida was 3 minutes down. I would bet a lot of money that G would lose another 20 seconds. In cycling, a lot of the time, it's a lot about how much you are prepared to suffer. When you know you have nothing to gain or lose, your effort just isn't the same. Even for top professionals.
 
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Feels like winning the Giro would make it much more likely Roglic will do the Tour as well.

I wonder in hindsight how much Roglic and Jumbo had been banking on this ITT. In the previous 2 days Roglic seemed reluctant to fully commit to his attacks, and when he winded up his sprint at the end of Tre Cime it didn't look to me like Thomas blew up but Roglic just let himself get dropped before launching an actual sprint in the final 150m.

I had also been overanalysing some past ITTs and I noticed Thomas' TTs basically seemed the better the flatter it was, including some ITTs like last Tour's ITT where his split in the hilly part was the worst part.

Maybe there's something about day to day recovery or fatigue but in a weird way fresh efforts just do seem to have bigger gaps sometimes. Or maybe in general unipuerto MTFs are better predictors for an MTT like this than a queen stage.

I don't think you can claim Thomas choked this. He obviously rode to hold pink against Roglic' time splits and he couldn't have predicted Roglic would get a mechanical. So while his pacing was suboptimal he would have lost either way
The only thing Thomas could have done differently was not change helmets. (still wouldn't have changed the outcome)
 
Most fans seem to prefer “entertainment” no matter what. I prefer to see the strongest riders prevail.
So sad we have to choose between entertaining races like the 2022 Tour where weak riders win and a boring race where the strongest in the race (at least those who didn‘t crash out or catch Covid) win in the end. I think that’s rarely an either/or choice and that entertainment and strong winners don’t correlate. Also, if you love seeing the strongest win, go watch weightlifting! ( I am not liable for the strongest weightlifters possibly being disqualified afterwards)
 
Little? I hope you are being sarcastic or joking but that isn’t funny. Nearly 860 vertical metres in just over 7 Km is quite incredible. And Thomas still finished 3rd on the stage.

He meant the first TT, not today lol.

So sad we have to choose between entertaining races like the 2022 Tour where weak riders win

So the Skeleton was weak, too good!
 
So sad we have to choose between entertaining races like the 2022 Tour where weak riders win and a boring race where the strongest in the race (at least those who didn‘t crash out or catch Covid) win in the end. I think that’s rarely an either/or choice and that entertainment and strong winners don’t correlate. Also, if you love seeing the strongest win, go watch weightlifting! ( I am not liable for the strongest weightlifters possibly being disqualified afterwards)
If you only care about entertainment, go watch WWF wresting. It’s about getting the balance right. Not sure if you’ve raced a bike but those of us who have would understand.
 
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Little? I hope you are being sarcastic or joking but that isn’t funny. Nearly 860 vertical metres in just over 7 Km is quite incredible. And Thomas still finished 3rd on the stage.
He was talking about the stage 1 ITT which had a climb of like 1.6km at 5%.

Thomas actually dropped 20 seconds on that hill there but that I would simply blame on pacing strategy and blowing up
 
I was only able to watch the stage with no sound and with just half an eye, but my pants almost turned brown when I noticed Roglič had dropped his chain. Maybe the race would have panned out differently if I had worn brown pants throughout the Giro, but at least in this dimension Roglič delivered when it mattered and will deserve to stand on top of the podium tomorrow (knock on wood).
 
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