Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia, Stage 19: Longarone – Tre Cime di Lavaredo 183 km (Friday, May 26th)

[SHAD0W93]

Have you watched literally anything of the past two Giri?

When I could, otherwise just read about it here.

 

[Escarabajo]

NB: Tre Cime is this year's Cima Coppi.

Double points?

 

[Pantani_lives]

List of winners on Tre Cime, with the Giro winner between brackets.

1967 stage canceled (Gimondi)
1968 Eddy Merckx (Merckx)
1974 José Manuel Fuente (Merckx)
1981 Beat Breu (Battaglin)
1989 Luis Herrera (Fignon)
2007 Riccardo Riccò (Di Luca)
2013 Vincenzo Nibali (Nibali)

 

[Escarabajo]

I think that one thing that is being underdiscussed is that the insane gradient climbs have been generating smaller differences the past 5 or so years. Zoncolan from Ovaro had only 42 seconds from first to sixth in 2018. Angliru had 26 seconds from first to seventh in 2020. Mortirolo produced very little between the main guys bar Roglic in 2019. Behind that, Sierra de Bernia (final 3.5k at 14.2%) had six (!) seconds from first to fifth in Valenciana in 2020. Les Praeres bucked the trend in 2022, but only because Evenepoel put half a minute into everyone - the next four GC riders were within 18 seconds of each other, and in 2018 there were only 19 seconds from first to seventh.

Bottom line - the days of the best climbers putting a minute or more into each other on this kind of climb seem to be over. Yes, a MTT is different, but I expect only 30 seconds to 1 minute between the first and last of Thomas, Roglic and Almeida on Lussari unless one of them impersonates either the Roglic or the Pogacar of the (not that comparable) Planche TT. And probably even less on Tre Cime if Giau isn't raced properly.

You are right, and I think it has been commented quite a few times here. The big difference when it comes to Giau and Tre Cime is the combination with the altitude. Well, so I hope. Usually high altitude create bigger gaps.

 

[Escarabajo]

List of winners on Tre Cime, with the Giro winner between brackets.

1967 stage canceled (Gimondi)
1968 Eddy Merckx (Merckx)
1974 José Manuel Fuente (Merckx)
1981 Beat Breu (Battaglin)
1989 Luis Herrera (Fignon)
2007 Riccardo Riccò (Di Luca)
2013 Vincenzo Nibali (Nibali)

That is a ring of honor!!!

 

[Valv.Piti]

List of winners on Tre Cime, with the Giro winner between brackets.

1967 stage canceled (Gimondi)
1968 Eddy Merckx (Merckx)
1974 José Manuel Fuente (Merckx)
1981 Beat Breu (Battaglin)
1989 Luis Herrera (Fignon)
2007 Riccardo Riccò (Di Luca)
2013 Vincenzo Nibali (Nibali)

2007, the legendary Riccardo Il Cobra and his Saunier Duval squad, what a stage that was! Thinking back about the Giro, the memories of Simoni, Piepoli and Ricco are still the most vivid. Probably also due to the fact that was the first Giro I followed.

 

[Mayomaniac]

When I think murderpace, my mind always crawls back to Alpe d' Huez 2003. That was even too much for Lance, and Iban Mayo ended up murdering him instead!

He dropped Ulrich at the first hairpin though.

That was the reasoning behind the violent stop and go nature of the Postal train, ruin the legs of the bigger guys who are dangerous in the ITT.

Wait, is that super cool highlights video of that 2003 stage no longer on yt?

 

[Mayomaniac]

That is a ring of honor!!!

I think my dad is the only one who still talks about Breu and Fuchs on that stage.

 

[peterfin]

Pinot 2nd and Gee 4th is a certainty. Apart from that, I don't know.

 

[Valv.Piti]

That was the reasoning behind the violent stop and go nature of the Postal train, ruin the legs of the bigger guys who are dangerous in the ITT.

Wait, is that super cool highlights video of that 2003 stage no longer on yt?

Cant find it either, but I found some legendary TV2 commentary by Leth and Mader. Not that you would any chance of understanding anything of that though.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Wait, is that super cool highlights video of that 2003 stage no longer on yt?

Surely you of all people should want to watch the ascent in full

 

[KOM]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vvj2NHuSKk


57min mark

 

[SHAD0W93]

Yeah, there’s been a lot of videos taken down due to copyright unfortunately. I wish cycling would do what WWE did and show all of the old footage on a streaming service. Cycling is already on Peacock in USA like WWE.

 

[saunaking]

Epic looking stage!
I expect 3km of racing

with gcn commentators going apeshit when guys like Carthy and Rigo are dropping

 

[Sciatic]

Epic looking stage!
I expect 3km of racing

These leading teams might be satisfied with that—but that will change quickly if one of the 3 leaders shows some cracks before that.

 

[Berniece]

Unless thomas has a bad day, it’s in the bag. Today, stage 18, was more suited to Roglic than this. I hope Thomas can win the stage, he would deserve at least a stage win this Giro

 

[staubsauger]

The Dolomites might be as beautiful as Ariana Grande. But it's Piccolo Grande who shines tomorrow.

Einer Rubio to win the stage and the mountains jersey!

 

[Ilmaestro99]

For those who understands Italian (and those who doesnt). Last time tre Cime di Lavaredo, 10 years ago.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1259903359009644548

View: https://twitter.com/Eurosport_IT/status/1259903359009644548?t=fLLPR-1B-IFio1R0mbj6hQ&s=19

 

[Samu Cuenca]

For those who understands Italian. Last time tre Cime di Lavaredo, 10 years ago.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1259903359009644548

View: https://twitter.com/Eurosport_IT/status/1259903359009644548?t=fLLPR-1B-IFio1R0mbj6hQ&s=19

I don't think you have to understand much Italian in order to appreciate the beauty of Nibali.

 

[Escarabajo]

What is the weather tomorrow?
I have not seen, ever, Tre Cime on good weather and high definition. That will be something!!!

 

[Valv.Piti]

The Dolomites might be as beautiful as Ariana Grande. But it's Piccolo Grande who shines tomorrow.

Einer Rubio to win the stage and the mountains jersey!

Dangerous Woman. Ugh, thats a hard one to forget.

Hopefully that will be the case tomorrow as well!

 

[Mayomaniac]

What is the weather tomorrow?
I have not seen, ever, Tre Cime on good weather and high definition. That will be something!!!

Will be nice. I've climbed it even with a bit of snowfall before (that wasn't planned, it just started snowing at some point).

 

[ice&fire]

I expect lots of Voeckler faces and little gaps
I just want good weather and landscape shots from the heli

 

[Mayomaniac]

The Dolomites might be as beautiful as Ariana Grande. But it's Piccolo Grande who shines tomorrow.

Einer Rubio to win the stage and the mountains jersey!

We need the UAE Tour commentators for that special occasion!

 

[Aimar16]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vvj2NHuSKk


57min mark

It seems as if there used to be a lot more fans on the roadside and more enthusiastic than there have been recently