I don't need to check what went wrong with my team.
Kron and Higuita went wrong with my team!
And Vlasov, I think...
Kron and Higuita went wrong with my team!
And Vlasov, I think...
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Stage 17
The result has apparently been declared early.
Green points
Juan Ayuso: never before have so few points been won so frequently for so many
Standings
Red Points
A meme day for the themed teams
Standings
Some people are happy about what Jumbo have done. I think we can identify two of them...
Queen Stagiare and 18 Valve share not only Kuss, whose status as winner-elect for a bargain price has given them a huge margin over the rest, but also the very popular, and reasonably-well-but-slightly-less-well- than- hoped-for performing Ayuso and Vlasov.
So the competition between them consists of
which doesn't make the 326 point swing that 18 Valve would need for the win look very likely.
The result has apparently been declared early.
Green points
| EVENEPOEL Remco | 70 | 0 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 40 | 2 |
| KRON Andreas Lorentz | 25 | 1 |
| POOLE Max | 15 | 3 |
| OURSELIN Paul | 10 | 0 |
| BERNARD Julien | 7 | 0 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 5 | 6 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 3 | 26 |
| MAS NICOLAU Enric | 2 | 2 |
| KUSS Sepp | 1 | 2 |
Juan Ayuso: never before have so few points been won so frequently for so many
1 | Northerner | 40 |
1 | SamuCuenca | 40 |
3 | RedheadDane | 30 |
4 | Titan31 | 23 |
5 | Postmanhat | 18 |
5 | Salvarani | 18 |
7 | Bonimenier | 8 |
7 | JumboVismaFan | 8 |
7 | Ricco | 8 |
10 | 18_Valve | 6 |
11 | Bminchow | 5 |
11 | Ludwigzgz | 5 |
13 | QueenStagiaire | 4 |
14 | 17 more teams with Ayuso | 3 |
Standings
1 | DJSprtsch | 569 | 0 |
2 | QueenStagiaire | 525 | 0 |
3 | Search | 395 | 0 |
4 | Kazistuta | 381 | 0 |
5 | Northerner | 375 | 2 |
6 | DJW | 374 | -1 |
7 | DevilsElbow | 373 | -1 |
8 | Bminchow | 337 | 0 |
9 | 18_Valve | 334 | 0 |
10 | Scrooll07 | 331 | -1 |
Red Points
| CARUSO Damiano | 57 | 2 |
| KRON Andreas Lorentz | 41 | 1 |
| POOLE Max | 25 | 3 |
| KUSS Sepp | 19 | 2 |
| TRATNIK Jan | 10 | 1 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 8 | 6 |
| NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel | 6 | 1 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 5 | 26 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | -5 | 8 |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | -6 | 13 |
| CATTANEO Mattia | -10 | 1 |
| THOMAS Geraint | -10 | 11 |
| VAN EETVELT Lennert | -10 | 2 |
A meme day for the themed teams
1 | RedheadDane | 44 |
2 | SamuCuenca | 36 |
3 | Northerner | 35 |
4 | Titan31 | 34 |
5 | 18_Valve | 26 |
5 | Postmanhat | 26 |
7 | QueenStagiaire | 18 |
8 | JumboVismaFan | 13 |
9 | Salvarani | 10 |
10 | Bonimenier | 9 |
11 | ArchieBoy | 5 |
11 | Ricco | 5 |
13 | Kazistuta | 3 |
14 | DJSprtsch | 1 |
14 | EvansIsTheBest | 1 |
14 | Ludwigzgz | 1 |
14 | Triley36 | 1 |
18 | DJW | -1 |
18 | Mellow_Velo | -1 |
18 | Rufs | -1 |
21 | Laarsland | -3 |
22 | BluesInTheBottle | -4 |
22 | Yellow_Knight | -4 |
24 | DevilsElbow | -5 |
24 | Madrazo | -5 |
24 | Search | -5 |
27 | Bminchow | -6 |
27 | Rote_Laterne | -6 |
29 | Armchair_Cyclist | -7 |
30 | AmisVelo | -8 |
31 | Vladimir | -9 |
32 | Scrooll07 | -10 |
33 | Anderis | -11 |
33 | BicycleBoy | -11 |
33 | Del1962 | -11 |
36 | Leadbelly | -13 |
37 | Cordi333 | -15 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -11 |
Standings
Some people are happy about what Jumbo have done. I think we can identify two of them...
1 | QueenStagiaire | 2067 | 0 |
2 | 18_Valve | 1741 | 0 |
3 | DJSprtsch | 1261 | 0 |
4 | Search | 1144 | 0 |
5 | Scrooll07 | 1111 | 0 |
6 | Mellow_Velo | 1094 | 0 |
7 | Northerner | 1086 | 5 |
8 | DJW | 1086 | -1 |
9 | BluesInTheBottle | 1082 | -1 |
10 | Bonimenier | 1072 | 0 |
11 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1062 | -2 |
12 | Rote_Laterne | 1050 | -1 |
13 | Kazistuta | 1004 | 0 |
14 | ArchieBoy | 989 | 0 |
15 | Salvarani | 988 | 0 |
16 | Ricco | 967 | 1 |
17 | BicycleBoy | 963 | -1 |
18 | DevilsElbow | 955 | 0 |
19 | Madrazo | 924 | 0 |
20 | Bminchow | 915 | 0 |
21 | Triley36 | 904 | 1 |
22 | Anderis | 904 | -1 |
23 | Laarsland | 892 | 0 |
24 | Ludwigzgz | 891 | 0 |
25 | Vladimir | 876 | 0 |
26 | Del1962 | 873 | 0 |
27 | Leadbelly | 832 | 0 |
28 | Cordi333 | 815 | 0 |
29 | JumboVismaFan | 801 | 1 |
30 | Rufs | 792 | -1 |
31 | EvansIsTheBest | 787 | 0 |
32 | Postmanhat | 778 | 0 |
33 | Titan31 | 771 | 0 |
34 | RedheadDane | 556 | 1 |
35 | Yellow_Knight | 535 | -1 |
36 | SamuCuenca | 471 | 0 |
37 | AmisVelo | 426 | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 730 |
Queen Stagiare and 18 Valve share not only Kuss, whose status as winner-elect for a bargain price has given them a huge margin over the rest, but also the very popular, and reasonably-well-but-slightly-less-well- than- hoped-for performing Ayuso and Vlasov.
So the competition between them consists of
| Queen Stagiare | 18 Valve | |||
| GROVES Kaden | 315 | MAS NICOLAU Enric | 266 | |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | 208 | VAN POPPEL Boy | 40 | |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | 90 | DE GENDT Thomas | 15 | |
| DAINESE Alberto | 35 | HIRT Jan | 15 | |
| OSBORNE Jason | 15 | (ROMO OLIVER Javier) | 1 |
Groves would have done equally well for you in the Main classification, but in the Green, where you are trying to catch up on DJSprtsch, that is the case: he has almost every sprinter other than Dainese.
Stage 19
Stage thread still only on page 6, says it all.
Green points
The most popular, but not the most successful, of the sprinters comes out on top today
Among the 14 Dainese teams, only Kazistuta had another top ten man today (Askey)
So it turns out that this minor classification is the place to find the excitement and close battle this time around. DJSprtsch's sprinter heavy team only gets one man in the points today, and for the first time since he replaced Redhead Dane (yes, really) on stage 3, We have a different leader. But only just...
Red Points
Almost no changes in any of the classifications, but Kuss gets yet another 18 points, and one more non-finisher.
Daily change (with correction, see below)
Standings
QS top of the day, another 70 points on the lead. This is only going one way...
Stage thread still only on page 6, says it all.
Green points
The most popular, but not the most successful, of the sprinters comes out on top today
| DAINESE Alberto | 70 | 14 |
| GANNA Filippo | 40 | 0 |
| VAN DEN BERG Marijn | 25 | 2 |
| CIMOLAI Davide | 15 | 1 |
| GARCIA CORTINA Ivan | 10 | 0 |
| BALLERSTEDT Maurice | 7 | 1 |
| ASKEY Lewis | 5 | 1 |
| HOFSTETTER Hugo | 3 | 1 |
| BARCELO ARAGON Fernando | 2 | 3 |
| KOCH Jonas | 1 | 0 |
Among the 14 Dainese teams, only Kazistuta had another top ten man today (Askey)
1 | Kazistuta | 75 |
2 | Anderis | 70 |
2 | Bonimenier | 70 |
2 | DevilsElbow | 70 |
2 | DJW | 70 |
2 | JumboVismaFan | 70 |
2 | Laarsland | 70 |
2 | Madrazo | 70 |
2 | QueenStagiaire | 70 |
2 | RedheadDane | 70 |
2 | Ricco | 70 |
2 | Search | 70 |
2 | Titan31 | 70 |
2 | Triley36 | 70 |
15 | DJSprtsch | 25 |
15 | Postmanhat | 25 |
17 | Vladimir | 17 |
18 | Scrooll07 | 9 |
19 | AmisVelo | 3 |
20 | Ludwigzgz | 2 |
So it turns out that this minor classification is the place to find the excitement and close battle this time around. DJSprtsch's sprinter heavy team only gets one man in the points today, and for the first time since he replaced Redhead Dane (yes, really) on stage 3, We have a different leader. But only just...
1 | QueenStagiaire | 595 | 1 |
2 | DJSprtsch | 594 | -1 |
3 | Search | 465 | 0 |
4 | Kazistuta | 456 | 0 |
5 | DJW | 444 | 1 |
6 | DevilsElbow | 443 | 1 |
7 | Northerner | 375 | -2 |
8 | Scrooll07 | 340 | 2 |
9 | Bminchow | 337 | -1 |
10 | 18_Valve | 334 | -1 |
Red Points
Almost no changes in any of the classifications, but Kuss gets yet another 18 points, and one more non-finisher.
| DAINESE Alberto | 70 | 14 |
| VAN DEN BERG Marijn | 26 | 2 |
| KUSS Sepp | 18 | 2 |
| CIMOLAI Davide | 15 | 1 |
| BALLERSTEDT Maurice | 7 | 1 |
| ASKEY Lewis | 5 | 1 |
| HOFSTETTER Hugo | 3 | 1 |
| BARCELO ARAGON Fernando | 2 | 3 |
| GESINK Robert | 2 | 1 |
| STORER Michael | -1 | 3 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -2 | 26 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | -2 | 6 |
| TOUZE Damien | -15 | 1 |
Daily change (with correction, see below)
1 | QueenStagiaire | 86 |
2 | Anderis | 70 |
2 | Madrazo | 70 |
4 | DevilsElbow | 68 |
4 | DJW | 68 |
4 | Laarsland | 68 |
4 | RedheadDane | 68 |
4 | Search | 68 |
4 | Triley36 | 68 |
10 | Bonimenier | 66 |
10 | JumboVismaFan | 66 |
10 | Ricco | 66 |
10 | Titan31 | 66 |
14 | Kazistuta | 58 |
15 | DJSprtsch | 24 |
15 | Postmanhat | 24 |
17 | 18_Valve | 16 |
17 | Vladimir | 16 |
19 | Scrooll07 | 7 |
20 | AmisVelo | 3 |
21 | SamuCuenca | 2 |
22 | Armchair_Cyclist | 0 |
22 | BicycleBoy | 0 |
22 | Ludwigzgz | 0 |
22 | Northerner | 0 |
22 | Yellow_Knight | 0 |
27 | ArchieBoy | -2 |
27 | BluesInTheBottle | -2 |
27 | Bminchow | -2 |
27 | Cordi333 | -2 |
27 | Del1962 | -2 |
27 | EvansIsTheBest | -2 |
27 | Rote_Laterne | -2 |
27 | Rufs | -2 |
27 | Salvarani | -2 |
36 | Leadbelly | -3 |
36 | Mellow_Velo | -3 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 68 |
Standings
QS top of the day, another 70 points on the lead. This is only going one way...
1 | QueenStagiaire | 2153 | 0 |
2 | 18_Valve | 1757 | 0 |
3 | DJSprtsch | 1285 | 0 |
4 | Search | 1212 | 0 |
5 | DJW | 1154 | 3 |
6 | Bonimenier | 1138 | 4 |
7 | Scrooll07 | 1118 | -2 |
8 | Mellow_Velo | 1091 | -2 |
9 | Northerner | 1086 | -2 |
10 | BluesInTheBottle | 1080 | -1 |
11 | Kazistuta | 1062 | 2 |
12 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1062 | -1 |
13 | Rote_Laterne | 1048 | -1 |
14 | Ricco | 1033 | 2 |
15 | DevilsElbow | 1023 | 3 |
16 | Madrazo | 994 | 3 |
17 | ArchieBoy | 987 | -3 |
18 | Salvarani | 986 | -3 |
19 | Anderis | 974 | 3 |
20 | Triley36 | 972 | 1 |
21 | BicycleBoy | 963 | -4 |
22 | Laarsland | 960 | 1 |
23 | Bminchow | 913 | -3 |
24 | Vladimir | 892 | 1 |
25 | Ludwigzgz | 891 | -1 |
26 | Del1962 | 871 | 0 |
27 | JumboVismaFan | 867 | 2 |
28 | Titan31 | 837 | 5 |
29 | Leadbelly | 829 | -2 |
30 | Cordi333 | 813 | -2 |
31 | Postmanhat | 802 | 1 |
32 | Rufs | 790 | -2 |
33 | EvansIsTheBest | 785 | -2 |
34 | RedheadDane | 624 | 0 |
35 | Yellow_Knight | 535 | 0 |
36 | SamuCuenca | 473 | 0 |
37 | AmisVelo | 429 | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 798 |
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Aren‘t most of the red points 15 points too low?
Edit: only on the points for the day.
Ah, I see it now. I had somehow removed Dainese's GC points from the calculation of his total score, but only after I had reported his daily change in score.
So that is indeed 15 extra points today for those 14 teams. I will edit the post above, thanks.
If you are interested enough in the workings of the spreadsheet to wonder how it happened:
(One of my steps is to copy values for column H to column L, because column L on the Results tab is the one I sort by and then cut and paste from no matter which ranking I am giving. In a brainfart, I did that procedure on the Rider Score tab instead of the Results tab. I soon noticed and corrected it, but I should have corrected it by 2 CTRL-Zs (one for doing it in the top row (Dainese's row), and one for the dragging that down to all the other riders, but I only did it once, hence the error remained in the top row.)
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Seeing as the green points seems to be where the only remaining competition is, I may as well show the factors at play between Queen Stagiare and DJSprtsch, as I did with QS and 18 Valve in the red points a couple of days ago.
They share Groves (and the 8 teams with Groves are all in the top 9, Scrooll07 being the interloper) and also Ayuso and Vlasov ( the 2 most popular picks in the game, and also both held by the teams in 3rd to 6th), so what makes them stand out from the distant chasers, and what will make the difference between the two of them, is the remaining 5 riders:
If today goes with a break, I suppose Lopez, Caicedo or Cras could feature; if not, some points for Uijtdebroecks or Kuss are plausible.
But most likely it comes down to Dainese vs Molano + Van den Berg on Sunday.
At least something in this Vuelta is still competitive.
They share Groves (and the 8 teams with Groves are all in the top 9, Scrooll07 being the interloper) and also Ayuso and Vlasov ( the 2 most popular picks in the game, and also both held by the teams in 3rd to 6th), so what makes them stand out from the distant chasers, and what will make the difference between the two of them, is the remaining 5 riders:
| Queen Stagiare | DJSprtsch | |||
| KUSS Sepp | 145 | MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian | 125 | |
| DAINESE Alberto | 90 | (AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto) | 50 | |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | 18 | VAN DEN BERG Marijn | 47 | |
| OSBORNE Jason | 0 | CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever | 26 | |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | 0 | CRAS Steff | 4 |
If today goes with a break, I suppose Lopez, Caicedo or Cras could feature; if not, some points for Uijtdebroecks or Kuss are plausible.
But most likely it comes down to Dainese vs Molano + Van den Berg on Sunday.
At least something in this Vuelta is still competitive.
Today Kron managed to get in the break - and get my hopes up - and then FRIKKIN' FINISH OVER 20 MINUTES BEHIND!
At least Mr. Is-In-The-Race Costa got 6th...
At least Mr. Is-In-The-Race Costa got 6th...
Stage 20
This Vuelta has more parades than Disneyland
Green points
Samu has both Poels and Costa, Search combines Ven Eetvelt and Tiberi.
Standings
Search is the only one of this morning's top ten to score, so moves a bit closer to the top two. And if Van Eetvelt and Tiberi first and second tomorrow, he could still win this.
Redhead Dane enters the top ten by turning it into a top eleven.
Red Points
Bora sees a reassertion of team order, which causes some change.
Standings
A good day for Dainese tomorrow could put Search on the podium and secure the double for Queen Stagiare; a poor day for him could see DJSprtsch hold that podium place and take the minor classification. Beyond that, there really isn't much more to battle over. There is only a small gap between 3rd and 4th in the Four Seasons title, but both teams involved (Devil's Elbow and DJW) have both Dainese and Groves, and no other sprinter.
But there are some small gaps in the table, so probably a few token pride places are available.
This Vuelta has more parades than Disneyland
Green points
| POELS Wout | 70 | 3 |
| EVENEPOEL Remco | 40 | 0 |
| SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo | 25 | 0 |
| VAN EETVELT Lennert | 15 | 2 |
| SOLER GIMENEZ Marc | 10 | 0 |
| COSTA Rui Alberto Faria | 7 | 2 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 5 | 1 |
| KÄMNA Lennard | 3 | 0 |
| BARDET Romain | 2 | 0 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 1 | 0 |
Samu has both Poels and Costa, Search combines Ven Eetvelt and Tiberi.
1 | SamuCuenca | 77 |
2 | Del1962 | 70 |
2 | Ludwigzgz | 70 |
4 | Search | 20 |
5 | Salvarani | 15 |
6 | RedheadDane | 7 |
Standings
Search is the only one of this morning's top ten to score, so moves a bit closer to the top two. And if Van Eetvelt and Tiberi first and second tomorrow, he could still win this.
Redhead Dane enters the top ten by turning it into a top eleven.
1 | QueenStagiaire | 595 | 0 |
2 | DJSprtsch | 594 | 0 |
3 | Search | 485 | 0 |
4 | Kazistuta | 456 | 0 |
5 | DJW | 444 | 0 |
6 | DevilsElbow | 443 | 0 |
7 | Northerner | 375 | 0 |
8 | Scrooll07 | 340 | 0 |
9 | Bminchow | 337 | 0 |
10 | 18_Valve | 334 | 0 |
10 | RedheadDane | 334 | 2 |
Red Points
Bora sees a reassertion of team order, which causes some change.
| POELS Wout | 76 | 3 |
| VAN EETVELT Lennert | 27 | 2 |
| VLASOV Aleksandr | 25 | 30 |
| KUSS Sepp | 16 | 2 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 13 | 1 |
| COSTA Rui Alberto Faria | 12 | 2 |
| CATTANEO Mattia | 10 | 1 |
| THOMAS Geraint | 10 | 11 |
| FISHER-BLACK Finn | -12 | 4 |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | -12 | 13 |
| NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel | -12 | 1 |
| TRATNIK Jan | -13 | 1 |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | -25 | 7 |
1 | Del1962 | 112 |
2 | SamuCuenca | 90 |
3 | Ludwigzgz | 66 |
4 | Search | 65 |
5 | 18_Valve | 41 |
6 | Laarsland | 37 |
6 | Leadbelly | 37 |
8 | RedheadDane | 36 |
9 | DevilsElbow | 35 |
10 | Triley36 | 29 |
11 | Cordi333 | 27 |
11 | Vladimir | 27 |
13 | EvansIsTheBest | 26 |
14 | Kazistuta | 25 |
15 | DJSprtsch | 24 |
15 | JumboVismaFan | 24 |
17 | AmisVelo | 23 |
17 | Yellow_Knight | 23 |
19 | Madrazo | 22 |
19 | Postmanhat | 22 |
21 | BicycleBoy | 14 |
22 | Bminchow | 13 |
22 | Rufs | 13 |
24 | Salvarani | 12 |
25 | Anderis | 10 |
25 | DJW | 10 |
27 | QueenStagiaire | 4 |
28 | Bonimenier | 3 |
28 | Mellow_Velo | 3 |
30 | Armchair_Cyclist | -2 |
31 | Titan31 | -4 |
32 | ArchieBoy | -8 |
32 | Northerner | -8 |
34 | Ricco | -13 |
35 | BluesInTheBottle | -15 |
35 | Rote_Laterne | -15 |
37 | Scrooll07 | -20 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 23 |
Standings
1 | QueenStagiaire | 2157 | 0 |
2 | 18_Valve | 1798 | 0 |
3 | DJSprtsch | 1309 | 0 |
4 | Search | 1277 | 0 |
5 | DJW | 1164 | 0 |
6 | Bonimenier | 1141 | 0 |
7 | Scrooll07 | 1098 | 0 |
8 | Mellow_Velo | 1094 | 0 |
9 | Kazistuta | 1087 | 2 |
10 | Northerner | 1078 | -1 |
11 | BluesInTheBottle | 1065 | -1 |
12 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1060 | 0 |
13 | DevilsElbow | 1058 | 2 |
14 | Rote_Laterne | 1033 | -1 |
15 | Ricco | 1020 | -1 |
16 | Madrazo | 1016 | 0 |
17 | Triley36 | 1001 | 3 |
18 | Salvarani | 998 | 0 |
19 | Laarsland | 997 | 3 |
20 | Anderis | 984 | -1 |
21 | Del1962 | 983 | 5 |
22 | ArchieBoy | 979 | -5 |
23 | BicycleBoy | 977 | -2 |
24 | Ludwigzgz | 957 | 1 |
25 | Bminchow | 926 | -2 |
26 | Vladimir | 919 | -2 |
27 | JumboVismaFan | 891 | 0 |
28 | Leadbelly | 866 | 1 |
29 | Cordi333 | 840 | 1 |
30 | Titan31 | 833 | -2 |
31 | Postmanhat | 824 | 0 |
32 | EvansIsTheBest | 811 | 1 |
33 | Rufs | 803 | -1 |
34 | RedheadDane | 660 | 0 |
35 | SamuCuenca | 563 | 1 |
36 | Yellow_Knight | 558 | -1 |
37 | AmisVelo | 452 | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 821 |
A good day for Dainese tomorrow could put Search on the podium and secure the double for Queen Stagiare; a poor day for him could see DJSprtsch hold that podium place and take the minor classification. Beyond that, there really isn't much more to battle over. There is only a small gap between 3rd and 4th in the Four Seasons title, but both teams involved (Devil's Elbow and DJW) have both Dainese and Groves, and no other sprinter.
But there are some small gaps in the table, so probably a few token pride places are available.
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Well, you can‘t have everything.
Stage 21
And after a stage that shouldn't have been a meaningless procession but was, to one that should have been but wasn't.
Green Jersey
Van Den Berg as well as Groves for DJSprtsch, which is relevant not just for the daily spoils.
Final Green Classification standings
it was about whether Dainese could hold off Molano and Van den Berg: Dainese did indeed finish ahead of Molano (25th vs 74th), but Marijn van den Berg was 3rd from the peloton, and 7th overall, and tat was enough to return DJSprtsch to the top of this table.
Red Points
As usual, not much on a final stage other than the sprint points, but it's necessary before we can confirm results.
On the day
Final Main Game standings
A dominant win, as has been apparent for some time, for Queen Stagiare: picking winners of Red and Green and White jerseys, with two more of the top ten and an additional stage winner makes for a team that would always be hard to beat. 18 Valve took second place by sharing the confidence in Kuss, and DJSprtsch's sprinters held of Search's challenge for the last podium spot.
Congratualtions to both winners and all podium/top ten/not last finishers (depending on your degree of confidence in your selection).
Thanks to the riders, PCS and CQ websites, all entrants (without whom this would be rather pointless) and to Evans is the Best for help at the preparatory stages.
Number crunching in a day or two. And an update maybe late tonight for the Women's CQ game.
And after a stage that shouldn't have been a meaningless procession but was, to one that should have been but wasn't.
Green Jersey
| GROVES Kaden | 70 | 8 |
| GANNA Filippo | 40 | 0 |
| DENZ Nico | 25 | 0 |
| PAGE Hugo | 15 | 0 |
| GARCIA CORTINA Ivan | 10 | 0 |
| COSTA Rui Alberto Faria | 7 | 2 |
| VAN DEN BERG Marijn | 5 | 2 |
| EVENEPOEL Remco | 3 | 0 |
| VAN GESTEL Dries | 2 | 0 |
| KÄMNA Lennard | 1 | 0 |
Van Den Berg as well as Groves for DJSprtsch, which is relevant not just for the daily spoils.
1 | DJSprtsch | 75 |
2 | Bminchow | 70 |
2 | DevilsElbow | 70 |
2 | DJW | 70 |
2 | Kazistuta | 70 |
2 | Northerner | 70 |
2 | QueenStagiaire | 70 |
2 | Search | 70 |
9 | RedheadDane | 7 |
9 | SamuCuenca | 7 |
11 | Postmanhat | 5 |
Final Green Classification standings
it was about whether Dainese could hold off Molano and Van den Berg: Dainese did indeed finish ahead of Molano (25th vs 74th), but Marijn van den Berg was 3rd from the peloton, and 7th overall, and tat was enough to return DJSprtsch to the top of this table.
1 | DJSprtsch | 669 | 1 |
2 | QueenStagiaire | 665 | -1 |
3 | Search | 555 | 0 |
4 | Kazistuta | 526 | 0 |
5 | DJW | 514 | 0 |
6 | DevilsElbow | 513 | 0 |
7 | Northerner | 445 | 0 |
8 | Bminchow | 407 | 1 |
9 | RedheadDane | 341 | 1 |
10 | Scrooll07 | 340 | -2 |
11 | 18_Valve | 334 | -1 |
12 | Madrazo | 329 | 0 |
13 | Anderis | 324 | 0 |
14 | BluesInTheBottle | 320 | 0 |
15 | Rote_Laterne | 295 | 0 |
16 | Titan31 | 290 | 0 |
17 | Del1962 | 289 | 0 |
17 | Vladimir | 289 | 0 |
19 | Triley36 | 286 | 0 |
20 | Armchair_Cyclist | 278 | 0 |
20 | SamuCuenca | 278 | 4 |
22 | Bonimenier | 276 | -1 |
23 | BicycleBoy | 275 | -1 |
24 | Ludwigzgz | 274 | -1 |
25 | Laarsland | 269 | 0 |
26 | JumboVismaFan | 253 | 0 |
27 | Salvarani | 247 | 0 |
28 | Postmanhat | 244 | 0 |
29 | Rufs | 237 | 0 |
30 | Ricco | 231 | 0 |
31 | ArchieBoy | 217 | 0 |
32 | EvansIsTheBest | 207 | 0 |
33 | Mellow_Velo | 202 | 0 |
34 | Leadbelly | 180 | 0 |
35 | Cordi333 | 170 | 0 |
36 | Yellow_Knight | 105 | 0 |
37 | AmisVelo | 85 | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 213 |
Red Points
As usual, not much on a final stage other than the sprint points, but it's necessary before we can confirm results.
| GROVES Kaden | 70 | 8 |
| COSTA Rui Alberto Faria | 7 | 2 |
| VAN DEN BERG Marijn | 6 | 2 |
| DOUBEY Fabien | 4 | 1 |
| BUCHMANN Emanuel | 4 | 1 |
| PRODHOMME Nicolas | 2 | 1 |
| BARCELO ARAGON Fernando | 1 | 3 |
| NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel | 1 | 1 |
| TRATNIK Jan | 1 | 1 |
| CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever | -1 | 3 |
| POOLE Max | -1 | 3 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -2 | 26 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | -2 | 8 |
| KUSS Sepp | -3 | 2 |
| FISHER-BLACK Finn | -6 | 4 |
On the day
1 | DJSprtsch | 73 |
2 | Bminchow | 70 |
3 | DJW | 69 |
4 | DevilsElbow | 68 |
4 | Kazistuta | 68 |
4 | Search | 68 |
7 | QueenStagiaire | 65 |
8 | Northerner | 64 |
9 | RedheadDane | 7 |
9 | SamuCuenca | 7 |
11 | Postmanhat | 3 |
12 | BicycleBoy | 2 |
13 | Yellow_Knight | 1 |
14 | Laarsland | 0 |
14 | Scrooll07 | 0 |
16 | Ludwigzgz | -1 |
16 | Vladimir | -1 |
18 | Anderis | -2 |
18 | Bonimenier | -2 |
18 | Cordi333 | -2 |
18 | Del1962 | -2 |
18 | EvansIsTheBest | -2 |
18 | JumboVismaFan | -2 |
18 | Madrazo | -2 |
18 | Mellow_Velo | -2 |
18 | Ricco | -2 |
18 | Rufs | -2 |
18 | Triley36 | -2 |
29 | Leadbelly | -3 |
29 | Salvarani | -3 |
29 | Titan31 | -3 |
32 | BluesInTheBottle | -4 |
32 | Rote_Laterne | -4 |
34 | 18_Valve | -5 |
35 | AmisVelo | -6 |
36 | ArchieBoy | -8 |
36 | Armchair_Cyclist | -8 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -2 |
Final Main Game standings
A dominant win, as has been apparent for some time, for Queen Stagiare: picking winners of Red and Green and White jerseys, with two more of the top ten and an additional stage winner makes for a team that would always be hard to beat. 18 Valve took second place by sharing the confidence in Kuss, and DJSprtsch's sprinters held of Search's challenge for the last podium spot.
1 | QueenStagiaire | 2222 | 0 |
2 | 18_Valve | 1793 | 0 |
3 | DJSprtsch | 1382 | 0 |
4 | Search | 1345 | 0 |
5 | DJW | 1233 | 0 |
6 | Kazistuta | 1155 | 3 |
7 | Northerner | 1142 | 3 |
8 | Bonimenier | 1139 | -2 |
9 | DevilsElbow | 1126 | 4 |
10 | Scrooll07 | 1098 | -3 |
11 | Mellow_Velo | 1092 | -3 |
12 | BluesInTheBottle | 1061 | 0 |
13 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1052 | -1 |
14 | Rote_Laterne | 1029 | 0 |
15 | Ricco | 1018 | 0 |
16 | Madrazo | 1014 | 0 |
17 | Triley36 | 999 | 0 |
18 | Laarsland | 997 | 1 |
19 | Bminchow | 996 | 6 |
20 | Salvarani | 995 | -2 |
21 | Anderis | 982 | -1 |
22 | Del1962 | 981 | -1 |
23 | BicycleBoy | 979 | 0 |
24 | ArchieBoy | 971 | -2 |
25 | Ludwigzgz | 956 | -1 |
26 | Vladimir | 918 | 0 |
27 | JumboVismaFan | 889 | 0 |
28 | Leadbelly | 863 | 0 |
29 | Cordi333 | 838 | 0 |
30 | Titan31 | 830 | 0 |
31 | Postmanhat | 827 | 0 |
32 | EvansIsTheBest | 809 | 0 |
33 | Rufs | 801 | 0 |
34 | RedheadDane | 667 | 0 |
35 | SamuCuenca | 570 | 0 |
36 | Yellow_Knight | 559 | 0 |
37 | AmisVelo | 446 | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 819 |
Congratualtions to both winners and all podium/top ten/not last finishers (depending on your degree of confidence in your selection).
Thanks to the riders, PCS and CQ websites, all entrants (without whom this would be rather pointless) and to Evans is the Best for help at the preparatory stages.
Number crunching in a day or two. And an update maybe late tonight for the Women's CQ game.
Congrats to QueenStagiaire for a dominant win and 18_Valve for sharing the faith in Kuss. I'm a bit sad that Kuss did so well and deprived DJ Sprtsch from the win since sprinter heavy teams rarely shine in those competitions.
Thanks to Armchair for hosting.
As for my team, it was terrible Vuelta and the only nice thing I can say is that I should juuust about keep the lead in the 4 seasons challenge.
Thanks to Armchair for hosting.
As for my team, it was terrible Vuelta and the only nice thing I can say is that I should juuust about keep the lead in the 4 seasons challenge.
Kuss scored 888 points, DJ Sprtsch was 840 points back. 48 points is equal to 28th on GC with zero stage points - even ahead of the race, you would have expected Kuss to easily clear that bar so long as he didn't DNF. QueenStagiaire had a fantastic team with or without Kuss, it's a richly deserved victory.
Four Seasons title
As he predicted, Evans is the Best managed to hold on to his lead despite an underwhelming Vuelta performance. A lead of more than 300 points at the start of the fourth event was reduced by nearly 200 by TRiley, but Evans retained the lead, followed by DJW, who turned a 84 point deficit to Devil's Elbow into a 23 point advantage for the third podium step in the contest for consistency and loyalty to the games.
As he predicted, Evans is the Best managed to hold on to his lead despite an underwhelming Vuelta performance. A lead of more than 300 points at the start of the fourth event was reduced by nearly 200 by TRiley, but Evans retained the lead, followed by DJW, who turned a 84 point deficit to Devil's Elbow into a 23 point advantage for the third podium step in the contest for consistency and loyalty to the games.
| Spring Classics | Giro | Tour | Vuelta | Total | Rank change in Vuelta | ||
| 1 | EvansIsTheBest | 1942 | 1404 | 1626 | 809 | 5781 | 0 |
| 2 | Triley36 | 1368 | 1626 | 1674 | 999 | 5667 | 0 |
| 3 | DJW | 1681 | 1023 | 1429 | 1233 | 5366 | 1 |
| 4 | DevilsElbow | 1587 | 1548 | 1082 | 1126 | 5343 | -1 |
| 5 | BluesInTheBottle | 1857 | 1044 | 1101 | 1061 | 5063 | 1 |
| 6 | Bminchow | 1270 | 1550 | 1193 | 996 | 5009 | -1 |
| 7 | Search | 1359 | 1109 | 1088 | 1345 | 4901 | 4 |
| 8 | Vladimir | 1320 | 1354 | 1156 | 918 | 4748 | -1 |
| 9 | DJSprtsch | 1375 | 939 | 1028 | 1382 | 4724 | 8 |
| 10 | Salvarani | 1755 | 1188 | 784 | 995 | 4722 | -1 |
| 11 | Anderis | 1369 | 1014 | 1283 | 982 | 4648 | -1 |
| 12 | Laarsland | 1535 | 902 | 1079 | 997 | 4513 | 0 |
| 13 | Kazistuta | 1400 | 1164 | 779 | 1155 | 4498 | 3 |
| 14 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1181 | 1116 | 1132 | 1052 | 4481 | -1 |
| 15 | Del1962 | 1204 | 1109 | 1040 | 981 | 4334 | 0 |
| 16 | Rote_Laterne | 1230 | 451 | 1555 | 1029 | 4265 | 2 |
| 17 | JumboVismaFan | 1499 | 1127 | 745 | 889 | 4260 | -3 |
| 18 | AmisVelo | 1540 | 412 | 1801 | 446 | 4199 | -10 |
| 19 | Rufs | 529 | 1168 | 1085 | 801 | 3583 | 0 |
| 20 | Leadbelly | 824 | 813 | 984 | 863 | 3484 | 0 |
| 21 | RedheadDane | 365 | 432 | 282 | 667 | 1746 | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1170 | 1218 | 1072 | 819 | 4279 |
Great! I won something. And third in the overall. And ninth in the season standing.
Again - thanks a lot for running these games, I really appreciate it.
Again - thanks a lot for running these games, I really appreciate it.
I didn't mean to diminish Queen Stagiaire victory by any means. Both by winning margin and total score it has to be right up there with the very best GT squad in the history of those games (maybe Armchair can confirm). Pretty insane that you can take out the rider that won the GC from their squad and replace them with a random finisher and they still podium. I was just voicing the fact I would have liked to see a sprinter heavy team triumph instead of a GC heavy squad as usual.
Some rider stats
Green points
Riders getting the equivalent to a second place on a stage or better
and an honourable mention to VAN POPPEL Danny, who got more than his cost (21 points) on stage points alone (25), and was picked 5 times.
The best possible team I can fond purely for targetting the green points competition would be
That group is well under budget, but would have scored 2143 in the main game
Main points
The highest scorers (cut off =70 points (a stage win))
and those who did not score as high, but were good value as picks, deserve a mention as well
Best possible team
(as ever, this is only the best that I have found with limited trial and error)
If I have got that correct, then Queen Stagiare's score is 91.4% of the best possible, which I strongly suspect breaks any record comfortably (I noted Postman Hat's 83% as notably high in the Tour game). I haven't looked up highest total or winning margin records as EitB mentions above, but I would suggest that this is a statistic that might never be broken in these games. QS has 6 of these eight, but had Dainese and Osborne (110 points between them) in place of Poels and Cras (330 for the pair).
To our credit, all of the Best possible team were selected. This time around, the Collective Ignorance team is very modest, the best I can find is
Other 15 pointers might have done just as well.
Could it have been worth really splashing out? With the Jumbo Visma post-Angliru pact, no, but I think the best possible team with Vingegaard was
Evenepoel was more expensive, and yielded fewer points, so a team based on him would have scored worse still.
The Impeccable picks list is shorter than usual, mainly because if you spent more than 391 points on anyone without already having Kuss in your team, you chose badly.
The DNF effect
28 riders failed to finish the race, exactly half of whom had been chosen. Dunbar and Romo were the two most popular DNFs, and Arensman the most costly that affected us. Only Aular significantly mitigated his withdrawal by having a halfway decent haul of points (50) before he withdrew.
Teams in final game order, with the number of DNFs they had and the nett cost (price minus any stage points they had gained)
Rufs seems to have suffered most.
I suppose I should have included the inventor of the spreadsheet in my thanks.
I'll see most of you for the Chinese legs of the Women's WT game, and/or for a couple more Emerging Riders updates before the year is out.
I have one more game formulating in my mind, but the website that I will need is not doing what it did last year. Perhaps...
Green points
Riders getting the equivalent to a second place on a stage or better
| Rider | Green pts | Teams | Price |
| EVENEPOEL Remco | 351 | 0 | 3208 |
| GROVES Kaden | 300 | 8 | 517 |
| VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas | 231 | 0 | 2673 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | 208 | 8 | 2071 |
| GANNA Filippo | 193 | 0 | 1222 |
| KUSS Sepp | 145 | 2 | 392 |
| KRON Andreas Lorentz | 130 | 1 | 457 |
| MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian | 125 | 2 | 466 |
| POELS Wout | 116 | 3 | 316 |
| KÄMNA Lennard | 114 | 0 | 461 |
| DAINESE Alberto | 90 | 14 | 276 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 86 | 26 | 1045 |
| BARDET Romain | 84 | 0 | 707 |
| COSTA Rui Alberto Faria | 84 | 2 | 647 |
| SOUPE Geoffrey | 73 | 0 | 188 |
| HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus | 70 | 0 | 749 |
| THEUNS Edward | 67 | 0 | 508 |
| VAN DEN BERG Marijn | 52 | 2 | 533 |
| MAS NICOLAU Enric | 51 | 2 | 1296 |
| AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto | 50 | 1 | 185 |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 47 | 1 | 703 |
| MARTINEZ Lenny | 47 | 9 | 407 |
| HAMILTON Chris | 45 | 1 | 146 |
| VAN EETVELT Lennert | 43 | 2 | 356 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 41 | 2 | 665 |
| FISHER-BLACK Finn | 40 | 4 | 152 |
| SOBRERO Matteo | 40 | 0 | 312 |
The best possible team I can fond purely for targetting the green points competition would be
| Price | stage points | |
| GROVES Kaden | 517 | 300 |
| KUSS Sepp | 392 | 145 |
| KRON Andreas Lorentz | 457 | 130 |
| MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian | 466 | 125 |
| POELS Wout | 316 | 116 |
| KÄMNA Lennard | 461 | 114 |
| DAINESE Alberto | 276 | 90 |
| SOUPE Geoffrey | 188 | 73 |
| Totals | 3073 | 1093 |
That group is well under budget, but would have scored 2143 in the main game
Main points
The highest scorers (cut off =70 points (a stage win))
| Rider | Points | Teams | Price | %age return |
| KUSS Sepp | 888 | 2 | 392 | 226.5 |
| VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas | 656 | 0 | 2673 | 24.5 |
| EVENEPOEL Remco | 627 | 0 | 3208 | 19.5 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | 538 | 8 | 2071 | 26.0 |
| GROVES Kaden | 385 | 8 | 517 | 74.5 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 352 | 26 | 1045 | 33.7 |
| LANDA MEANA Mikel | 278 | 1 | 1127 | 24.7 |
| MAS NICOLAU Enric | 266 | 2 | 1296 | 20.5 |
| VLASOV Aleksandr | 216 | 30 | 547 | 39.5 |
| GANNA Filippo | 215 | 0 | 1222 | 17.6 |
| POELS Wout | 206 | 3 | 316 | 65.2 |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | 183 | 7 | 459 | 39.9 |
| ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves | 181 | 1 | 1484 | 12.2 |
| KRON Andreas Lorentz | 173 | 1 | 457 | 37.9 |
| BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago | 164 | 5 | 596 | 27.5 |
| BARDET Romain | 161 | 0 | 707 | 22.8 |
| KÄMNA Lennard | 158 | 0 | 461 | 34.3 |
| SOLER GIMENEZ Marc | 148 | 0 | 420 | 35.2 |
| MOLANO BENAVIDES Juan Sebastian | 140 | 2 | 466 | 30.0 |
| MARTINEZ Lenny | 139 | 9 | 407 | 34.2 |
| CRAS Steff | 124 | 6 | 119 | 104.2 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 116 | 2 | 665 | 17.4 |
| RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian | 112 | 0 | 356 | 31.5 |
| COSTA Rui Alberto Faria | 109 | 2 | 647 | 16.8 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 107 | 0 | 787 | 13.6 |
| DAINESE Alberto | 105 | 14 | 276 | 38.0 |
| SOUPE Geoffrey | 88 | 0 | 188 | 46.8 |
| HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus | 86 | 0 | 749 | 11.5 |
| VAN EETVELT Lennert | 83 | 2 | 356 | 23.3 |
| THEUNS Edward | 82 | 0 | 508 | 16.1 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 80 | 1 | 232 | 34.5 |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | 78 | 13 | 75 | 104.0 |
| STORER Michael | 73 | 3 | 346 | 21.1 |
| GREGOIRE Romain | 71 | 1 | 703 | 10.1 |
| VAN DEN BERG Marijn | 70 | 2 | 533 | 13.1 |
and those who did not score as high, but were good value as picks, deserve a mention as well
| VAN POPPEL Boy | 40 | 5 | 21 | 190.5 |
| ERVITI OLLO Imanol | 25 | 2 | 25 | 100.0 |
| DOUBEY Fabien | 32 | 1 | 34 | 94.1 |
| CIMOLAI Davide | 30 | 1 | 45 | 66.7 |
| NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel | 30 | 1 | 45 | 66.7 |
| BALLERSTEDT Maurice | 22 | 1 | 35 | 62.9 |
| OURSELIN Paul | 62 | 0 | 103 | 60.2 |
| BIDARD François | 15 | 3 | 29 | 51.7 |
| CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever | 45 | 3 | 87 | 51.7 |
| GRIGNARD Sébastien | 15 | 0 | 30 | 50.0 |
| HERRADA LOPEZ Jose | 15 | 3 | 30 | 50.0 |
| GONZALEZ LOPEZ David | 25 | 0 | 51 | 49.0 |
| CARVALHO Andre Rodrigues | 15 | 0 | 33 | 45.5 |
| DRIZNERS Jarrad | 16 | 0 | 36 | 44.4 |
| FISHER-BLACK Finn | 66 | 4 | 152 | 43.4 |
| GRADEK Kamil | 15 | 0 | 35 | 42.9 |
| SÜTTERLIN Jasha | 15 | 0 | 35 | 42.9 |
| VERGAERDE Otto | 15 | 0 | 36 | 41.7 |
| HAMILTON Chris | 60 | 1 | 146 | 41.1 |
| DAVY Clément | 15 | 0 | 37 | 40.5 |
| HIRT Jan | 15 | 10 | 37 | 40.5 |
| FELLINE Fabio | 16 | 1 | 40 | 40.0 |
Best possible team
(as ever, this is only the best that I have found with limited trial and error)
| KUSS Sepp | 392 | 888 |
| GROVES Kaden | 517 | 385 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 1045 | 352 |
| VLASOV Aleksandr | 547 | 216 |
| POELS Wout | 316 | 206 |
| UIJTDEBROEKS Cian | 459 | 183 |
| CRAS Steff | 119 | 124 |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | 75 | 78 |
3470 | 2432 |
If I have got that correct, then Queen Stagiare's score is 91.4% of the best possible, which I strongly suspect breaks any record comfortably (I noted Postman Hat's 83% as notably high in the Tour game). I haven't looked up highest total or winning margin records as EitB mentions above, but I would suggest that this is a statistic that might never be broken in these games. QS has 6 of these eight, but had Dainese and Osborne (110 points between them) in place of Poels and Cras (330 for the pair).
To our credit, all of the Best possible team were selected. This time around, the Collective Ignorance team is very modest, the best I can find is
| VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas | 2673 | 656 |
| SOLER GIMENEZ Marc | 420 | 148 |
| OURSELIN Paul | 103 | 62 |
| FLYNN Sean | 91 | 34 |
| DRIZNERS Jarrad | 36 | 16 |
| GRADEK Kamil | 35 | 15 |
| SÜTTERLIN Jasha | 35 | 15 |
| GRIGNARD Sébastien | 30 | 15 |
3423 | 961 |
Could it have been worth really splashing out? With the Jumbo Visma post-Angliru pact, no, but I think the best possible team with Vingegaard was
| VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas | 2673 | 656 |
| GROVES Kaden | 517 | 385 |
| CRAS Steff | 119 | 124 |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | 75 | 78 |
| VAN POPPEL Boy | 21 | 40 |
| DOUBEY Fabien | 34 | 32 |
| ERVITI OLLO Imanol | 25 | 25 |
| BALLERSTEDT Maurice | 35 | 22 |
3499 | 1362 |
Evenepoel was more expensive, and yielded fewer points, so a team based on him would have scored worse still.
The Impeccable picks list is shorter than usual, mainly because if you spent more than 391 points on anyone without already having Kuss in your team, you chose badly.
| KUSS Sepp |
| POELS Wout |
| CRAS Steff |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro |
| VAN POPPEL Boy |
The DNF effect
28 riders failed to finish the race, exactly half of whom had been chosen. Dunbar and Romo were the two most popular DNFs, and Arensman the most costly that affected us. Only Aular significantly mitigated his withdrawal by having a halfway decent haul of points (50) before he withdrew.
Teams in final game order, with the number of DNFs they had and the nett cost (price minus any stage points they had gained)
| QueenStagiaire | 0 | 0 |
| 18_Valve | 1 | 73 |
| DJSprtsch | 1 | 135 |
| Search | 1 | 395 |
| DJW | 0 | 0 |
| Kazistuta | 2 | 448 |
| Northerner | 0 | 0 |
| Bonimenier | 1 | 395 |
| DevilsElbow | 2 | 283 |
| Scrooll07 | 1 | 73 |
| Mellow_Velo | 0 | 0 |
| BluesInTheBottle | 1 | 152 |
| Armchair_Cyclist | 1 | 219 |
| Rote_Laterne | 1 | 73 |
| Ricco | 1 | 395 |
| Madrazo | 2 | 410 |
| Triley36 | 2 | 568 |
| Laarsland | 0 | 0 |
| Bminchow | 2 | 468 |
| Salvarani | 1 | 73 |
| Anderis | 1 | 395 |
| Del1962 | 0 | 0 |
| BicycleBoy | 0 | 0 |
| ArchieBoy | 2 | 848 |
| Ludwigzgz | 2 | 246 |
| Vladimir | 1 | 205 |
| JumboVismaFan | 2 | 705 |
| Leadbelly | 2 | 468 |
| Cordi333 | 3 | 610 |
| Titan31 | 2 | 468 |
| Postmanhat | 3 | 483 |
| EvansIsTheBest | 2 | 716 |
| Rufs | 3 | 1243 |
| RedheadDane | 1 | 515 |
| SamuCuenca | 0 | 0 |
| Yellow_Knight | 1 | 395 |
| AmisVelo | 1 | 643 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 0 | 468 |
Rufs seems to have suffered most.
I suppose I should have included the inventor of the spreadsheet in my thanks.
I'll see most of you for the Chinese legs of the Women's WT game, and/or for a couple more Emerging Riders updates before the year is out.
I have one more game formulating in my mind, but the website that I will need is not doing what it did last year. Perhaps...
On the collective ignorance team, replacing Soler with Kämna would yield ten additional points while remaining in budget.
Well, obviously the best team with Vingegaard also includes the disgustingly cheap Kuss. The best I could find in a short attempt:
| VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas | 2673 | 656 |
| KUSS Sepp | 392 | 888 |
| CRAS Steff | 119 | 124 |
| LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro | 75 | 78 |
| VAN POPPEL Boy | 21 | 40 |
| OURSELIN Paul | 103 | 62 |
| ERVITI OLLO Imanol | 25 | 25 |
| CAICEDO CEPEDA Jonathan Klever | 87 | 45 |
3495 | 1918 |
Another possibility and, in fact a possibility to win would have been the Libertine Seguros nightmare combo of Roglič and Kuss
| ROGLIC Primoz | 2071 | 538 |
| KUSS Sepp | 392 | 888 |
| CRAS Steff | 119 | 124 |
| GROVES Kaden | 517 | 385 |
| VAN POPPEL Boy | 21 | 40 |
| POELS Wout | 316 | 206 |
| ERVITI OLLO Imanol | 25 | 25 |
| DOUBEY Fabien | 34 | 32 |
| 3495 | 2238 |
Now, what if you had placed all your faith in the mighty Belgian, what could you have saved from your encounter with Jumbo?
Gaze and Navarro are just here so I can put someone who didn‘t score into an (as far as I know) optimal squad. They can be replaced by José Herrada and Sebastien Grignard.
This squad would still finish 27th.
| EVENEPOEL Remco | 3208 | 627 |
| CRAS Steff | 119 | 124 |
| BIDARD François | 29 | 15 |
| NAVARRRO GARCIA Daniel | 45 | 30 |
| VAN POPPEL Boy | 21 | 40 |
| GAZE Samuel | 15 | 0 |
| ERVITI OLLO Imanol | 25 | 25 |
| DOUBEY Fabien | 34 | 32 |
| 3496 | 893 |
This squad would still finish 27th.
QS takes over what @Hugo Koblet always used to do (I think it was him), of spotting far better 'after the event' permutations than I do: good work.
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