2024 Giro CQ Game

[Armchair Cyclist]

To EitB,
Hermano looks like we are down to Leemreize vs Pickrell. Good luck to you, hope to see you on the podium.
BitB

I had half expected some Pogacar teams to be identical, because of limitations of choice of the other 7. I could see that there weren't any, but not surprised to see such a high correlation, even if I wouldn't have necessarily have predicted it to be from within the Itb household.

I hope to get a team similarityy tab done on the spreadsheet, but probably late tonight.

If points are equal, the first criterion is of least reliance on one rider (so the highest scoring non-shared rider is a disadvantage), but that can't be a factor where 7 riders are shared, so the second criterion is placing in GC of the first different rider outside the top 50 (so the one who is closest to having more than 'mere' finishing points. After that, it would have to be longest the longest surviving DNF stayed in the race. I suppose if, for example, Pickerell and Leemreize were to drop out in the same crash and there is no evidence as to which of them rode on farther, we would have to call a draw. But in most daily updates, I probably won't bother with any tiebreakers outside the top ten.

 

[titan31]

Bardet, Arensman and Lipowitz. Not an ideal start

 

[Blues in the bottle]

Arm, you put a lot of thought into that. Thanks
I would have suggested a coin toss.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Most popular picks

QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	27​
TIBERI Antonio	21​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe	20​
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	15​
BARDET Romain	14​
THOMAS Geraint	13​
MILAN Jonathan	12​
ARENSMAN Thymen, POGACAR Tadej	11​
BALLERINI Davide, O'CONNOR Ben	10​
LEEMREIZE Gijs	9​
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando, HIRT Jan	7​
PIETROBON Andrea	6​
COLLEONI Kevin, LIPOWITZ Florian	5​
BAUHAUS Phil, LUTSENKO Alexey, PICKRELL Riley, PLAPP Lucas	4​
CERNY Josef, CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban, FRIGO Marco, GESCHKE Simon, LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro, PELLIZZARI Giulio, POZZOVIVO Domenico, STORER Michael	3​
ALAPHILIPPE Julian, DE MARCHI Alessandro, FABBRO Matteo, FORTUNATO Lorenzo, FOSS Tobias Svendsen, GESINK Robert, GRONDIN Donavan, JAKOBSEN Fabio, LONARDI Giovanni, LUND ANDRESEN Tobias, PICCOLO Andrea	2​

and there should be 31 unique picks in the table above, with 71 of the 176 riders being relevant to the game.

Popularity ranking
For new players (welcome to Harad, Shakes and BartalliCoppi), this shows how often your riders were picked: Quintana will give you 27 points here, a unique pick just 1. Sometimes there is a correlation between this and how well a team does, but far from always.

1​	DJW	126​
2​	Bminchow	125​
3​	QueenStagiare	118​
4​	Titan31	114​
5​	Leadbelly	113​
6​	Madrazo	112​
7​	Triley36	111​
8​	AmisVelo	106​
9​	Scrooll07	105​
10​	DevilsElbow	104​
11​	DJSprtsch	103​
12​	Shakes	102​
13​	Rote_Laterne	99​
13​	Search	99​
15​	ArchieBoy	94​
15​	Salvarani	94​
17​	EvansIsTheBest	91​
18​	Harad	90​
19​	SlowClimber	89​
20​	BluesInTheBottle	86​
21​	Anderis	83​
22​	Laarsland	81​
22​	Peixotini	81​
24​	Rufs	79​
25​	Laurens147	78​
26​	Armchair_Cyclist	76​
26​	Googolplex	76​
28​	Sam6	72​
29​	Del1962	71​
29​	Josedin	71​
31​	Kazistuta	66​
32​	Vladimir	63​
33​	BartalliCoppi	59​
34​	Yellow_Knight	51​
35​	BicycleBoy	50​
36​	SamuCuenca	45​
37​	RedheadDane	39​

I know you are waiting for results, but I have other stuff to do, so that might be a while yet. Just let the intrigue build...

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Arm, you put a lot of thought into that. Thanks
I would have suggested a coin toss.

Most of the criteria were used in the past, although we have never had to come down to order of quiting (unless anyone remembers otherwise)

 

[rote_laterne2]

I'm suprised Tiberi is the second most picked rider and only three decided to include Pozzovivo.

 

[Anderis]

I'm surprised 10 people decided not to include Quintana at the price of 16. But I guess it could make sense in some cases.

 

[sam6]

After seeing today, maybe Pogi won't be as dominant as we all thought! If Narvaez can follow on double-digit gradients and then outsprint him then maybe the other contenders will be able to at least compete with him

We will have a better idea tomorrow!

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm surprised 10 people decided not to include Quintana at the price of 16. But I guess it could make sense in some cases.

A limit of 8 riders.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I'm surprised 10 people decided not to include Quintana at the price of 16. But I guess it could make sense in some cases.

He was obviously in that Colombian/Ecuadorian team I considered, but in the end I went all Italian. I'm quite surprised Piganzoli is a unique pick, although he didn't exactly get off to the best of starts.

Juamnpe López only being on 3 teams is also a shocker, and no one selecting my man Pelayo is just disappointing.

 

[RedheadDane]

and no one selecting my man Pelayo is just disappointing.

You could have selected him. Not like you're known for sticking to national themes.

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

To EitB,
Hermano looks like we are down to Leemreize vs Pickrell. Good luck to you, hope to see you on the podium.
BitB

On top of sharing 7 out of 8 riders, I also want to see myself on the podium so we have that in common as well


More seriously though I'll have fun tracking that Leemreize vs Pickrell battle (and hopefully that battle will matter).

 

[Blues in the bottle]

On top of sharing 7 out of 8 riders, I also want to see myself on the podium so we have that in common as well


More seriously though I'll have fun tracking that Leemreize vs Pickrell battle (and hopefully that battle will matter).

Right now I like your side of the equation better, but it is a long way to Rome

 

[Anderis]

Juamnpe López only being on 3 teams is also a shocker

I would've definetely considered him had I not spent over 80% of my budget on Pogacar.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Sorry: I have just got in from the hospital and am going to get some sleep, having been waiting with a family member for an ambulance until 5:40 am. Stage 1 update probably sometime after stage 2 finishes.

 

[RedheadDane]

Sorry: I have just got in from the hospital and am going to get some sleep, having been waiting with a family member for an ambulance until 5:40 am. Stage 1 update probably sometime after stage 2 finishes.

Take your time recovering/taking care of your sick family member.

 

[sam6]

Sorry: I have just got in from the hospital and am going to get some sleep, having been waiting with a family member for an ambulance until 5:40 am. Stage 1 update probably sometime after stage 2 finishes.

I hope that it's nothing too serious and they get better soon!

 

[hfgon1]

@ingsve @NTFC1962 @hfgon1 ?

Totally missed it... Made my team in time but didnt send it

Maybe you can let them score out of competition:

THOMAS Geraint
VANSEVENANT Mauri
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando
ARENSMAN Thymen
TIBERI Antonio
CARUSO Damiano
DUNBAR Eddie
UITDEBROEKS Cian

 

[Blues in the bottle]

Sorry: I have just got in from the hospital and am going to get some sleep, having been waiting with a family member for an ambulance until 5:40 am. Stage 1 update probably sometime after stage 2 finishes.

Health is everything, take all the time you need. We are happy to wait for the results and your insightful commentary .

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Damned idiot of a brother in law ('civility is compulsory' doesn't apply to extended family, does it?) had a row with staff at mother-in-law's nursing home, backing them into a corner and string of events that mean she's now being sent home after a total red herring of a hospital visit.

Previously, in Italy
Stage 1
Purplish points (I have a long-standing objection to calling that colour 'cyclamen')
This is the minor category in the game: stage points only, but without the weighting in favour of flat stages so it is quite different from the classification in the race itself.

	points	teams
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel	70​	1​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian	40​	0​
POGACAR Tadej	25​	11​
BAUDIN Alex	15​	0​
CONCI Nicola	10​	0​
HERMANS Quinten	7​	0​
VANSEVENANT Mauri	5​	1​
TIBERI Antonio	3​	21​
VALTER Attila	2​	1​
THOMAS Geraint	1​	13​

Three fairly popular picks mean nearly everyone is off the mark.

1​	Yellow_Knight	70​
2​	BluesInTheBottle	28​
2​	EvansIsTheBest	28​
4​	Anderis	25​
4​	BicycleBoy	25​
4​	Googolplex	25​
4​	Kazistuta	25​
4​	Laarsland	25​
4​	Laurens147	25​
4​	Salvarani	25​
4​	Sam6	25​
4​	Vladimir	25​
13​	Harad	8​
14​	AmisVelo	4​
14​	BartalliCoppi	4​
14​	Bminchow	4​
14​	DevilsElbow	4​
14​	DJW	4​
14​	Josedin	4​
14​	Madrazo	4​
14​	QueenStagiare	4​
14​	Search	4​
23​	ArchieBoy	3​
23​	Armchair_Cyclist	3​
23​	DJSprtsch	3​
23​	Leadbelly	3​
23​	Rufs	3​
23​	SamuCuenca	3​
23​	Scrooll07	3​
23​	Shakes	3​
23​	SlowClimber	3​
23​	Titan31	3​
33​	Peixotini	1​
33​	Rote_Laterne	1​
33​	Triley36	1​
36​	Del1962	0​
36​	RedheadDane	0​
	Collective_Wisdom	4​

Pink points
This is the main part of the game. GC points, Sprint and KoM classifications, stage points and bonuses for being in pink all added together as though the Giro were finishing now. So it gradually becomes more realistic. What you see here might not be a strong indication of where you will finish up.

NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel	658​	1​
SCHACHMANN Maximilian	430​	0​
POGACAR Tadej	349​	11​
BAUDIN Alex	283​	0​
CARUSO Damiano	240​	1​
CONCI Nicola	227​	0​
HERMANS Quinten	198​	0​
VANSEVENANT Mauri	170​	1​
TIBERI Antonio	153​	21​
VALTER Attila	137​	1​
CALMEJANE Lilian	132​	0​
THOMAS Geraint	121​	13​
GANNA Filippo	112​	0​
MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe	109​	20​

and so on down to dozens of riders projected to get 15 points for finishing

Yellow Knight has the stage winner and pink jersey wearer (until a minute ago), but Caruso, Tiberi, Thomas and Martinez mean that Madrazo has a better spread of contributing riders.

1​	Madrazo	870​
2​	Yellow_Knight	815​
3​	DevilsElbow	670​
4​	Anderis	626​
5​	BluesInTheBottle	617​
5​	EvansIsTheBest	617​
5​	DJW	617​
8​	Googolplex	612​
8​	Salvarani	612​
10​	Harad	599​
11​	Laarsland	592​
12​	Bminchow	585​
13​	AmisVelo	582​
14​	Sam6	571​
14​	Leadbelly	571​
16​	DJSprtsch	540​
17​	Laurens147	539​
18​	BicycleBoy	521​
19​	Search	519​
20​	Rufs	505​
21​	Kazistuta	498​
22​	BartalliCoppi	493​
23​	QueenStagiare	489​
24​	Vladimir	482​
25​	Triley36	481​
26​	Rote_Laterne	457​
27​	Scrooll07	451​
28​	Peixotini	442​
29​	Armchair_Cyclist	440​
30​	SlowClimber	438​
31​	Shakes	429​
32​	ArchieBoy	413​
33​	Del1962	394​
34​	Josedin	389​
35​	Titan31	387​
36​	SamuCuenca	374​
37​	RedheadDane	322​
	Collective_Wisdom	572​

You'll have seen by now what happened in stage two: we'll see what it has done to the game sometime this evening, idiot brother-in-law allowing.

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

After seeing today, maybe Pogi won't be as dominant as we all thought! If Narvaez can follow on double-digit gradients and then outsprint him then maybe the other contenders will be able to at least compete with him

We will have a better idea tomorrow!

Pogacar looks fine to me.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

That Colombian-Ecuadorian team looks better each day. I also considered Fortunato for my eventual all Italian team, but I ditched him due to his age

 

[RedheadDane]

I also considered Fortunato for my eventual all Italian team, but I ditched him due to his age

Is it an all-Italian baby team?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Is it an all-Italian baby team?

It's Pozzovivo and his 7 children (allegedly).

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Having said I would apply tiebreakers in the top ten, let's do that:
DJW is 5th, as his highest scoring individual (Tiberi) has fewer points than that of the itB twins (better spread of points is rewarded);
Leemreize is 69th as opposed to Pickerell's 175th, so Evans is 6th, and Blues 7th;
Leemreize also is higher than any of the three riders that Googolplex has that Salvarani does not,so Salvarani is 8th and Googolplex 9th.