2024 Tirreno - Adriatico, March 4-10

[Brullnux]

I wonder if Milan will give up on track post-Olympics – I think he's a more talented (all-round) road rider than Ganna.

On a related note, I think this win demonstrates (for me) that Milan should very much be considered in the top tier of world sprinters, along with Philipsen/Kooij et al. Some positioning issues to be ironed out, but if he can beat Philipsen for power he can beat pretty much anyone.

 

[125C]

I wonder if Milan will give up on track post-Olympics – I think he's a more talented (all-round) road rider than Ganna.

On a related note, I think this win demonstrates (for me) that Milan should very much be considered in the top tier of world sprinters, along with Philipsen/Kooij et al. Some positioning issues to be ironed out, but if he can beat Philipsen for power he can beat pretty much anyone.

He's even more suited to track than Ganna. If anything Milan should be looking at getting into the bunch events considering his abilities. Olympic gold medals are pretty significant.

 

[KZD]

I wonder if Milan will give up on track post-Olympics – I think he's a more talented (all-round) road rider than Ganna.

On a related note, I think this win demonstrates (for me) that Milan should very much be considered in the top tier of world sprinters, along with Philipsen/Kooij et al. Some positioning issues to be ironed out, but if he can beat Philipsen for power he can beat pretty much anyone.

I agree that if Milan sorts out his positioning, he has everything to become one of the best sprinters in the world and just like Pedersen he is super dangerous in these uphill drag sprints because he can hold very high watts for a long time but is not aero at all.

His likely battle with Kooij in the Giro should be quite interesting.

 

[RedheadDane]

Uhm... someone, explain, please...

146	VAN BAARLE Dylan	Team Visma | Lease a Bike				-4:56:24
147	GHEBREIGZABHIER Amanuel	Lidl - Trek				-4:56:06

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

What's happened to Tim Merlier this past couple of days? (Sorry, not had time to watch)

 

[Devil's Elbow]

What's happened to Tim Merlier this past couple of days? (Sorry, not had time to watch)

A minor amount of easy hills happened.

 

[Brullnux]

He's even more suited to track than Ganna. If anything Milan should be looking at getting into the bunch events considering his abilities. Olympic gold medals are pretty significant.

He already has a gold medal though, and there's much more money in road cycling. He has the potential to fight for a green jersey or win a classic like Ghent Wevelgem, both might outweigh Olympics medals if he wins this summer too.

I guess he could do 3 years road, 1 year track, but I think to shift focus to omnium/madison will require a decent amount of training time in the 'fallow' years and I wonder if he feels it is worth it.

 

[125C]

He already has a gold medal though, and there's much more money in road cycling. He has the potential to fight for a green jersey or win a classic like Ghent Wevelgem, both might outweigh Olympics medals if he wins this summer too.

I guess he could do 3 years road, 1 year track, but I think to shift focus to omnium/madison will require a decent amount of training time in the 'fallow' years and I wonder if he feels it is worth it.

I think you'd find in Italy more Olympic gold medals are much more notable than winning a classic like gent wevelgem. The green jersey would probably be more important than a single Olympic gold providing he won quite a few stages on the way to getting it. You're right there is more money in road cycling but if he can combine them well I think that would be even more lucrative but financially and from a general career pov.

Also in the end, he does not race that much at all on the track anyway and it doesn't seem to be causing him issues with progression on the road. Also fyi, the italian track method of training is much more similar to normal road rider training (e.g. big volumes) compared to say the australian or british method.

If he can have a long career and get into the bunch races though, he could become an all time great Olympian, so a lot will depend if he's interested in trying to commit to that.

 

[scribers]

A minor amount of easy hills happened.

If that’s his thing good luck making it out if the first third of any stage race to any affect

 

[SHAD0W93]

If that’s his thing good luck making it out if the first third of any stage race to any affect

Which has been Merlier’s issue in them. I wonder how much of his top speed he’d lose in order to get him over the hills.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Why did Fausto lost 1 minute? It's a mistake? Did he dropped back to get freedom for a stage win?

 

[Unchained]

At least Girmay was wearing a safety jacket, so the other riders could easily see him.

In the US road workers wear this color, and people who are arrested for drunk driving have to go out on the roadways and pick up trash, wearing the day glow green safety vests.. Don't know if I dislike the glowing green or glowing orange color more..

 

[jmdirt]

Milan=power!

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Why did Fausto lost 1 minute? It's a mistake? Did he dropped back to get freedom for a stage win?

Once Merlier got dropped, the DS allowed him to stop and sign some autographs for his enthusiastic and highly knowledgeable fans

 

[SHAD0W93]

Why did Fausto lost 1 minute? It's a mistake? Did he dropped back to get freedom for a stage win?

Making sure Ayuso and Vingegaard feel better when he wins overall by 1 second instead of minutes.

 

[Brullnux]

I think you'd find in Italy more Olympic gold medals are much more notable than winning a classic like gent wevelgem. The green jersey would probably be more important than a single Olympic gold providing he won quite a few stages on the way to getting it. You're right there is more money in road cycling but if he can combine them well I think that would be even more lucrative but financially and from a general career pov.

Also in the end, he does not race that much at all on the track anyway and it doesn't seem to be causing him issues with progression on the road. Also fyi, the italian track method of training is much more similar to normal road rider training (e.g. big volumes) compared to say the australian or british method.

If he can have a long career and get into the bunch races though, he could become an all time great Olympian, so a lot will depend if he's interested in trying to commit to that.

Very fair, I was just looking at Ganna/Viviani who tend to structure their training in Olympic years very differently. I am just slightly concerned that if he doesn't specialise, it might hold him from reaching his true potential in whatever he goes for. Low-key, I think he might be the most interesting Italian sprinter since Petacchi

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Once Merlier got dropped, the DS allowed him to stop and sign some autographs for his enthusiastic and highly knowledgeable fans

He should be focused! He is a gracious guy but there is a good opportunity for GC here.

Although I did see on social medias Fausto complaining about the wet and cold. He said he likes it from june onwards when it's 25 degrees and sun. Hopefully he keeps getting better through the season.

 

[search]

I like the look of tomorrow's descent. Any idea if this has been used before?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I like the look of tomorrow's descent. Any idea if this has been used before?

I think they descended this side early on in stage 6 of the 2003 Tirreno. It's also been used as a MTF in the 2007 and 2006 Tirreni and 2002 Giro (the 2021 Giro MTF was a different side to both climb and descent tomorrow).

Speaking of the 2021 Giro MTF, I'm surprised that there hasn't been some sort of nod to the winner (RIP) of that stage.

 

[Netserk]

I think they descended this side early on in stage 6 of the 2003 Tirreno. It's also been used as a MTF in the 2007 and 2006 Tirreni and 2002 Giro (the 2021 Giro MTF was a different side to both climb and descent tomorrow).

Speaking of the 2021 Giro MTF, I'm surprised that there hasn't been some sort of nod to the winner (RIP) of that stage.

Yep. The last 27 km of tomorrow's stage was raced in the same direction back then.

 

[125C]

Very fair, I was just looking at Ganna/Viviani who tend to structure their training in Olympic years very differently. I am just slightly concerned that if he doesn't specialise, it might hold him from reaching his true potential in whatever he goes for. Low-key, I think he might be the most interesting Italian sprinter since Petacchi

Once Trek get him dialed in on the TT bike, he's gonna be a problem in that discipline as well. He appears to have elite power in the short to medium ranges and climbs incredibly well considering I believe he's >90KG (PCS has him at 84KG but that's certainly a mistake if you compare that to other similarly sized sprinters such as Waerenskjold, Kittel, Walscheid or just him dwarfing Ganna when they are together).

 

[Wyndbrook]

Wtf was Pidcock doing on the front there, he would've made it

Apparently 'whacking it'.

 

[Froome]

Finally the mountains arrived.

For today, i hope and i think the plan of Visma will be what they do better, and it's doing since the beggining of the stage the "high Kilojoule thing" to tire everybody. In the beggining of the climb, vallter and uijdtbroeks will probably do a pace hard before vingegaard launches his attack in the middle of the climb, where they will face a 11% section.

 

[Earns1985]

So big test for Ayuso today, if Visma will go for it...

 

[Blanco]

So big test for Ayuso today, if Visma will go for it...

They will, and if he stays with Vinge it will be great for the race. He could drop a bit, but not more than 15-20 sec, cause he can catch on descent. If it goes over 30, Im afraid it's game over.