2025 Giro CQ Game

Nevs · May 17, 2025

I'm just happy with two straight stage wins. That and seeing my boy, Taco go up the road every other day

Armchair Cyclist · Sunday at 10:38 AM

Stage 8
We all need a bit of mayhem
Sorry its late

Stage points
Three teams probably have more than they expected from Martinelli

PLAPP Lucas	70	2
KELDERMAN Wilco	40	0
ULISSI Diego	25	0
ARRIETA LIZARRAGA Igor	15	0
PRODHOMME Nicolas	10	3
VENDRAME Andrea	7	3
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	5	0
STEINHAUSER Georg	3	2
BARDET Romain	2	1
MARTINELLI Alessio	1	3

1	Bminchow	70
1	Hfgon1	70
3	Laarsland	17
4	Qazaqstan	10
4	QueenStagiaire	10
6	Rufs	8
7	Search	7
8	BluesInTheBottle	3
8	Josedin	3
8	SamuCuenca	3
11	LosBrolin	1

Standings
Bminchow has the winners of three stages (Groves, Ayuso and Plapp), so is the Pedersen of the game.

1	Bminchow	251	(+1)
2	DJW	205	(-1)
3	Ingsve	178	(-)
4	Rufs	164	(+2)
5	Nevs	159	(-1)
6	AmisVelo	158	(-1)
7	Hfgon1	142	(+23)
8	SamuCuenca	138	(-1)
8	Search	138	(+1)
10	QueenStagiaire	136	(-)
11	Madrazo	135	(-4)
12	Del1962	112	(-1)
13	Sam6	111	(-1)
13	SlowClimber	111	(-1)
15	HiHope	110	(-1)
16	Abbulf	108	(-1)
16	Onizuka999	108	(-1)
18	Armchair_Cyclist	106	(-1)
19	DJSprtsch	105	(-1)
20	Josedin	100	(-)
20	JumboVismaFan	100	(-1)
22	Kazistuta	96	(-1)
23	DevilsElbow	94	(-1)
24	Qazaqstan	93	(+2)
25	YellowKnight	91	(-2)
26	EvansIsTheBest	87	(-2)
27	LosBrolin	86	(-2)
28	BluesInTheBottle	81	(-)
29	Vladimir	79	(-2)
30	Hayneplane	73	(-1)
31	NBFC1962	64	(-)
32	Peixotini	60	(-)
33	Laarsland	59	(+2)
34	Triley36	57	(-1)
35	Titan31	50	(-1)
36	RedheadDane	37	(-)
37	Leadbelly	35	(-)
38	BicycleBoy	7	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	110
	Default	97

Overall
Several big (if temporary) losers, and no-one has picked the two riders that did the damage.

PLAPP Lucas	72 pts	2 teams
PRODHOMME Nicolas	32	3
BARDET Romain	15	1

CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-15	5
YATES Simon	-15	23
POOLE Max	-50	4
STORER Michael	-50	2
TIBERI Antonio	-50	15
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	-80	3
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	-110	22
ROGLIC Primoz	-185	6

The previous stage saw every team with a positive daily change: today everyone is on the wrong side of zero.

1	RedheadDane	-31
2	Laarsland	-33
3	Leadbelly	-53
4	Hfgon1	-57
5	Onizuka999	-61
6	Bminchow	-62
7	BicycleBoy	-66
7	YellowKnight	-66
9	Peixotini	-85
10	Josedin	-97
11	QueenStagiaire	-103
12	Rufs	-104
13	Search	-125
14	Titan31	-128
15	Vladimir	-137
16	JumboVismaFan	-138
17	Kazistuta	-146
18	Hayneplane	-148
18	HiHope	-148
20	Armchair_Cyclist	-149
21	Qazaqstan	-150
22	DJSprtsch	-154
23	Abbulf	-157
23	Sam6	-157
25	Nevs	-166
26	BluesInTheBottle	-169
26	SamuCuenca	-169
28	SlowClimber	-181
29	Ingsve	-189
30	DJW	-191
31	LosBrolin	-192
32	Madrazo	-195
33	Del1962	-211
34	DevilsElbow	-215
35	Triley36	-216
36	NBFC1962	-242
37	EvansIsTheBest	-248
38	AmisVelo	-302
	Collective_Wisdom	-198
	Default	-32

Standings

Another change at the top, Ingsve just getting in front. Because Damian Howson, having been in the break, dropped behind the main peloton, and in that peloton Embret Svestat-Bardseng finished near enough to the front to overtake him on countback. #everysecondcounts

1	Ingsve	1076	(+2)
2	DJW	1075	(-)
3	Madrazo	1064	(+1)
4	LosBrolin	1017	(+1)
5	Qazaqstan	971	(+3)
6	AmisVelo	967	(-5)
7	SlowClimber	946	(-)
8	Del1962	934	(-2)
9	Sam6	905	(+1)
10	Abbulf	877	(+1)
11	DJSprtsch	863	(+2)
12	HiHope	862	(+2)
13	EvansIsTheBest	849	(-4)
14	Bminchow	845	(+10)
15	QueenStagiaire	831	(+7)
16	Kazistuta	818	(+2)
17	DevilsElbow	815	(-5)
18	Hayneplane	813	(+1)
19	Nevs	806	(-3)
20	Armchair_Cyclist	803	(-)
21	BluesInTheBottle	799	(-4)
22	Titan31	783	(+1)
23	NBFC1962	767	(-8)
24	Triley36	734	(-3)
25	Search	732	(-)
26	Hfgon1	710	(+2)
27	JumboVismaFan	708	(-1)
28	Peixotini	646	(+2)
29	Vladimir	625	(-)
30	Leadbelly	621	(+2)
31	SamuCuenca	605	(-4)
32	Rufs	602	(-1)
33	Laarsland	596	(+1)
34	Josedin	555	(-1)
35	BicycleBoy	529	(-)
36	YellowKnight	521	(-)
37	Onizuka999	517	(-)
38	RedheadDane	298	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1062
	Default	503

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And I suspect that the only thing we know about the strade bianche stage is that anything could happen.

Armchair Cyclist · Monday at 12:32 AM

Stage 9

It's not March, but it has strade bianche and the Siena finish.

Stage points
Some popular picks here, but the main points are not widely picked.

VAN AERT Wout	70	0
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	40	3
CICCONE Giulio	25	1
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	15	5
YATES Simon	10	23
TIBERI Antonio	7	15
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	5	22
ARENSMAN Thymen	3	7
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	2	19
YATES Adam	1	0

Far too many teams with multiple scorers to note them all, but the Del Toro teams also have S Yates and Ayuso (Del), S Yates and Bernal (Abbulf) and Tiberi and Bernal (Hayneplane)

1	Del1962	55
2	Abbulf	52
3	Hayneplane	49
4	Peixotini	35
5	Armchair_Cyclist	32
5	Sam6	32
7	Leadbelly	30
8	LosBrolin	25
8	RedheadDane	25
10	DJW	24
10	Ingsve	24
10	Madrazo	24
13	Titan31	22
14	Vladimir	20
15	Laarsland	19
16	BicycleBoy	17
16	Bminchow	17
16	DJSprtsch	17
16	HiHope	17
16	JumboVismaFan	17
16	Kazistuta	17
16	Search	17
23	Hfgon1	15
24	SlowClimber	14
25	BluesInTheBottle	12
25	Nevs	12
27	DevilsElbow	10
27	QueenStagiaire	10
27	Triley36	10
27	YellowKnight	10
31	EvansIsTheBest	9
32	Qazaqstan	8
32	Rufs	8
34	Josedin	7
34	NBFC1962	7
36	AmisVelo	5
37	Onizuka999	0
37	SamuCuenca	0
	Collective_Wisdom	24
	Default	12

Standings
No-one has the stage winner, so the impact of the stage is limited

1	Bminchow	268	(-)
2	DJW	229	(-)
3	Ingsve	202	(-)
4	Rufs	172	(-)
5	Nevs	171	(-)
6	Del1962	167	(+6)
7	AmisVelo	163	(-1)
8	Abbulf	160	(+8)
9	Madrazo	159	(+2)
10	Hfgon1	157	(-3)
11	Search	155	(-3)
12	QueenStagiaire	146	(-2)
13	Sam6	143	(-)
14	Armchair_Cyclist	138	(+4)
14	SamuCuenca	138	(-6)
16	HiHope	127	(-1)
17	SlowClimber	125	(-4)
18	DJSprtsch	122	(+1)
18	Hayneplane	122	(+12)
20	JumboVismaFan	117	(-)
21	Kazistuta	113	(+1)
22	LosBrolin	111	(+5)
23	Onizuka999	108	(-7)
24	Josedin	107	(-4)
25	DevilsElbow	104	(-2)
26	Qazaqstan	101	(-2)
26	YellowKnight	101	(-1)
28	Vladimir	99	(+1)
29	EvansIsTheBest	96	(-3)
30	Peixotini	95	(+2)
31	BluesInTheBottle	93	(-3)
32	Laarsland	78	(+1)
33	Titan31	72	(+2)
34	NBFC1962	71	(-3)
35	Triley36	67	(-1)
36	Leadbelly	65	(+1)
37	RedheadDane	62	(-1)
38	BicycleBoy	24	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	134
	Default	109

Overall

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	321	3
CICCONE Giulio	169	1
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	160	5
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	115	22
TIBERI Antonio	107	15
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	105	19
YATES Simon	90	23
ARENSMAN Thymen	51	7

POELS Wout	-20	2
BARDET Romain	-23	1
STORER Michael	-45	2
POOLE Max	-132	4
ROGLIC Primoz	-180	6

A fairly huge range of scores, suggests that the standings will again be turbulent

1	Hayneplane	536
2	Del1962	504
3	Armchair_Cyclist	470
3	Sam6	470
5	Madrazo	433
6	Ingsve	429
7	DJW	417
8	Peixotini	408
9	Abbulf	398
10	Leadbelly	392
11	LosBrolin	363
12	Laarsland	327
12	Search	327
14	DJSprtsch	326
15	SlowClimber	316
16	JumboVismaFan	313
17	Kazistuta	302
18	HiHope	295
19	Bminchow	293
20	QueenStagiaire	277
20	Vladimir	277
22	Nevs	229
23	BluesInTheBottle	228
24	BicycleBoy	226
25	Hfgon1	207
26	Titan31	206
27	Rufs	183
28	RedheadDane	177
29	Josedin	62
30	Qazaqstan	58
31	YellowKnight	40
32	EvansIsTheBest	34
33	AmisVelo	-65
34	NBFC1962	-66
35	Triley36	-84
36	DevilsElbow	-105
37	Onizuka999	-128
38	SamuCuenca	-203
	Collective_Wisdom	417
	Default	165

Standings
Ingsve has four of the big positive scorers on the day, so hangs onto his lead. The Del Toro teams have a rider with a decent profit on his cost (98 points, Tjotta has 16 and Knox 14, and that's all), but thus far don't have the others in the team to put them higher than 5th, 8th and 9th

1	Ingsve	1505	(-)
2	Madrazo	1497	(+1)
3	DJW	1492	(-1)
4	Del1962	1438	(+4)
5	LosBrolin	1380	(-1)
6	Sam6	1375	(+3)
7	Hayneplane	1349	(+11)
8	Abbulf	1275	(+2)
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1273	(+11)
10	SlowClimber	1262	(-3)
11	DJSprtsch	1189	(-)
12	HiHope	1157	(-)
13	Bminchow	1138	(+1)
14	Kazistuta	1120	(+2)
15	QueenStagiaire	1108	(-)
16	Search	1059	(+9)
17	Peixotini	1054	(+11)
18	Nevs	1035	(+1)
19	Qazaqstan	1029	(-14)
20	BluesInTheBottle	1027	(+1)
21	JumboVismaFan	1021	(+6)
22	Leadbelly	1013	(+8)
23	Titan31	989	(-1)
24	Laarsland	923	(+9)
25	Hfgon1	917	(+1)
26	AmisVelo	902	(-20)
26	Vladimir	902	(+3)
28	EvansIsTheBest	883	(-15)
29	Rufs	785	(+3)
30	BicycleBoy	755	(+5)
31	DevilsElbow	710	(-14)
32	NBFC1962	701	(-9)
33	Triley36	650	(-9)
34	Josedin	617	(-)
35	YellowKnight	561	(+1)
36	RedheadDane	475	(+2)
37	SamuCuenca	402	(-6)
38	Onizuka999	389	(-1)
	Collective_Wisdom	1479
	Default	668

RedheadDane · Monday at 7:44 AM

Armchair Cyclist said:
36
RedheadDane
475
(+2)

Ha-HAAA! My move to the top has begun!

Armchair Cyclist · Monday at 4:51 PM

So where did the points come from (so far)?

Highest Stage point scorers

PEDERSEN Mads	230 pts	0 teams
VAN AERT Wout	110	0
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	81	3
GROVES Kaden	80	5
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	76	22
PLAPP Lucas	70	2
TARLING Joshua	70	2
VAN UDEN Casper	70	1
AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto	65	0
ROGLIC Primoz	55	6
ZAMBANINI Edoardo	50	0
KOOIJ Olav	41	0
FRETIN Milan	40	1
KELDERMAN Wilco	40	0
STRONG Corbin	40	0
CICCONE Giulio	35	1
PIDCOCK Thomas	35	0
ULISSI Diego	32	0
ZIJLAARD Maikel	32	6
MAGNIER Paul	30	3

1	Bminchow	268	Groves, Ayuso, Plapp
2	DJW	229	Ayuso, Tarling, Zijlard
3	Ingsve	202	Ayuso, Van Uden
4	Rufs	172	Groves, Ayuso
5	Nevs	171	Groves, Ayuso
6	Del1962	167	Del Toro, Ayuso
7	AmisVelo	163	Ayuso, Roglic, Zijlard
8	Abbulf	160	Del Toro, Magnier
9	Madrazo	159	Ayuso, Zijlard
10	Hfgon1	157	Ayuso, Plapp

Overall main scorers

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	612	3
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	491	22
PEDERSEN Mads	405	0
TIBERI Antonio	329	15
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	288	5
CICCONE Giulio	275	1
ROGLIC Primoz	226	6
YATES Simon	225	23
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	222	19
MCNULTY Brandon	168	0
YATES Adam	151	0
FORTUNATO Lorenzo	135	0
VAN AERT Wout	135	0
STORER Michael	128	2
PIDCOCK Thomas	120	0
CARUSO Damiano	119	8
ULISSI Diego	113	0
ARENSMAN Thymen	107	7
VACEK Mathias	106	0
VAN UDEN Casper	100	1
GROVES Kaden	95	5
ZAMBANINI Edoardo	93	0
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	90	2
AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto	87	0
PLAPP Lucas	85	2
TARLING Joshua	85	2
KOOIJ Olav	81	0
HARPER Chris	78	13
PELLIZZARI Giulio	74	0
PIGANZOLI Davide	71	5

Huge degree of overlap between the teams in the current top 3

1	Ingsve	1505	Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Bernal, Van Uden, Harper
2	Madrazo	1497	Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Bernal, Rubio, Harper
3	DJW	1492	Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Bernal, Tarling, Harper
4	Del1962	1438	Del Toro, Ayuso, Yates
5	LosBrolin	1380	Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Caruso, Arensman, Harper
6	Sam6	1375	Ayuso, Carapaz, Yates, Bernal, Caruso, Harper
7	Hayneplane	1349	Del Toro, Tiberi, Bernal
8	Abbulf	1275	Del Toro, Yates, Bernal
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1273	Ayuso, Carapaz, Yates, Bernal
10	SlowClimber	1262	Ayuso, Tiberi, Bernal, Caruso, Piganzoli

Armchair Cyclist · Monday at 5:04 PM

Non finishers (so far)

13 riders have climbed off so far: 4 of them were unselected, but the seven that affect our game, in order of price, are:

LANDA MEANA Mikel	973	1
HINDLEY Jai	474	7
HIRT Jan	199	2
KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren	129	2
BOUWMAN Koen	76	6
HOLLMANN Juri	68	1
BOUCHARD Geoffrey	40	2

None of them had got a top ten finish that would have ameliorated their loss to some extent.

Value (and number) of riders lost to our teams:

Laarsland	1	973
DevilsElbow	2	550
HiHope	2	550
Del1962	1	474
Hayneplane	1	474
Rufs	1	474
Sam6	1	474
Search	1	474
Bminchow	2	205
Armchair_Cyclist	1	199
Hfgon1	1	199
Nevs	1	129
NBFC1962	1	76
SlowClimber	1	76
Titan31	1	76
Josedin	1	68
SamuCuenca	1	40
Vladimir	1	40

Del, Sam6 and Hayneplane all manage to hold a top ten place despite the fairly expensive loss of Hindley: Laarsland can count anyone he finishes above as a victory after losing his most expensive rider on the first stage.

Spreadsheet

hayneplane · Monday at 6:10 PM

Very detailed report there 👏

Impressed that I have a chance of finishing top 5 despite Hindley crashing out so early he missed all his stage scoring opportunities.

Armchair Cyclist · Tuesday at 5:38 PM

Stage 10
Rain affected TT to Pisa

Stage points
Back to slim pickings in the minor category

HOOLE Daan	70	0
TARLING Joshua	40	2
HAYTER Ethan	25	1
CATTANEO Mattia	15	0
AFFINI Edoardo	10	1
VINE Jay	7	0
PLAPP Lucas	5	2
FRIGO Marco	3	5
HEPBURN Michael	2	0
AZPARREN IRURZUN Xabier Mikel	1	1

Both Frigo and Affini for Testa Rossa Danese

1	DJW	40
1	YellowKnight	40
3	JumboVismaFan	25
4	RedheadDane	13
5	Bminchow	5
5	Hfgon1	5
7	DJSprtsch	3
7	NBFC1962	3
7	Triley36	3
7	Vladimir	3
11	Rufs	1

Standings
That's probably the last time that DJW can expect Tarling to boost his score in this category, but he is a major contributor to that second place.

1	Bminchow	273	(-)
2	DJW	269	(-)
3	Ingsve	202	(-)
4	Rufs	173	(-)
5	Nevs	171	(-)
6	Del1962	167	(-)
7	AmisVelo	163	(-)
8	Hfgon1	162	(+2)
9	Abbulf	160	(-1)
10	Madrazo	159	(-1)
11	Search	155	(-)
12	QueenStagiaire	146	(-)
13	Sam6	143	(-)
14	JumboVismaFan	142	(+6)
15	YellowKnight	141	(+11)
16	Armchair_Cyclist	138	(-2)
16	SamuCuenca	138	(-2)
18	HiHope	127	(-2)
19	DJSprtsch	125	(-1)
19	SlowClimber	125	(-2)
21	Hayneplane	122	(-3)
22	Kazistuta	113	(-1)
23	LosBrolin	111	(-1)
24	Onizuka999	108	(-1)
25	Josedin	107	(-1)
26	DevilsElbow	104	(-1)
27	Vladimir	102	(+1)
28	Qazaqstan	101	(-2)
29	EvansIsTheBest	96	(-)
30	Peixotini	95	(-)
31	BluesInTheBottle	93	(-)
32	Laarsland	78	(-)
33	RedheadDane	75	(+4)
34	NBFC1962	74	(-)
35	Titan31	72	(-2)
36	Triley36	70	(-1)
37	Leadbelly	65	(-1)
38	BicycleBoy	24	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	134
	Default	149

Overall points
Don't blame it on the sunshine, blame it on the rain

ROGLIC Primoz	105	6
YATES Simon	50	23
GEE Derek	46	4
TARLING Joshua	40	2
ARENSMAN Thymen	31	7
HAYTER Ethan	25	1
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	18	3
HARPER Chris	12	13
AFFINI Edoardo	10	1

RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	-24	2
STORER Michael	-24	2
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	-70	19
CICCONE Giulio	-75	1
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-115	5

The Yates-Bernal combination is very common, so quite a bit of cancelling out of losses and gains.

1	Triley36	180
2	DevilsElbow	159
3	AmisVelo	117
4	NBFC1962	115
5	SamuCuenca	106
6	BicycleBoy	92
7	LosBrolin	85
8	Del1962	62
8	YellowKnight	62
10	BluesInTheBottle	58
11	Hfgon1	55
12	EvansIsTheBest	39
13	DJW	32
14	DJSprtsch	28
14	Rufs	28
16	Qazaqstan	17
17	Onizuka999	16
18	Titan31	15
19	Abbulf	6
20	JumboVismaFan	5
21	Nevs	0
22	Ingsve	-8
23	Hayneplane	-10
24	Bminchow	-15
25	HiHope	-16
25	Kazistuta	-16
27	Laarsland	-22
28	Josedin	-24
28	Search	-24
30	Madrazo	-32
31	Peixotini	-34
32	QueenStagiaire	-49
33	RedheadDane	-56
34	SlowClimber	-78
35	Leadbelly	-93
36	Vladimir	-110
37	Armchair_Cyclist	-135
38	Sam6	-143
	Collective_Wisdom	-16
	Default	20

Standings
Plenty of change again, and still hard to say how this game will pan out.

1	DJW	1524	(+2)
2	Del1962	1500	(+2)
3	Ingsve	1497	(-2)
4	LosBrolin	1465	(+1)
5	Madrazo	1465	(-3)
6	Hayneplane	1339	(+1)
7	Abbulf	1281	(+1)
8	Sam6	1232	(-2)
9	DJSprtsch	1217	(+2)
10	SlowClimber	1184	(-)
11	HiHope	1141	(+1)
12	Armchair_Cyclist	1138	(-3)
13	Bminchow	1123	(-)
14	Kazistuta	1104	(-)
15	BluesInTheBottle	1085	(+5)
16	QueenStagiaire	1059	(-1)
17	Qazaqstan	1046	(+2)
18	Nevs	1035	(-)
18	Search	1035	(-2)
20	JumboVismaFan	1026	(+1)
21	Peixotini	1020	(-4)
22	AmisVelo	1019	(+4)
23	Titan31	1004	(-)
24	Hfgon1	972	(+1)
25	EvansIsTheBest	922	(+3)
26	Leadbelly	920	(-4)
27	Laarsland	901	(-3)
28	DevilsElbow	869	(+3)
29	BicycleBoy	847	(+1)
30	Triley36	830	(+3)
31	NBFC1962	816	(+1)
32	Rufs	813	(-3)
33	Vladimir	792	(-7)
34	YellowKnight	623	(+1)
35	Josedin	593	(-1)
36	SamuCuenca	508	(+1)
37	RedheadDane	419	(-1)
38	Onizuka999	405	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1463
	Default	688

Does the mid-race calm start tomorrow or the following day?

del1962 · Tuesday at 9:49 PM

Every day Del Torro stays in pink is a bonus for those of us who picked him

Armchair Cyclist · Wednesday at 12:01 AM

del1962 said:
Every day Del Torro stays in pink is a bonus for those of us who picked him

18 points of bonus. And 18 points less for the teams with Roglic or Ayuso each day.

Armchair Cyclist · Wednesday at 5:23 PM

Stage 11
That one was for the breakaway apparently. Does the last 7km count?

Stage points
Not the random group of rare picks I would have expected.

CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	70	5
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	40	3
CICCONE Giulio	25	1
PIDCOCK Thomas	15	0
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	10	19
TIBERI Antonio	7	15
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	5	22
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	3	2
GEE Derek	2	4
ULISSI Diego	1	0

This isn't what I expected either.
The combinations that included Carapaz: Bernal and Ayuso for both Armchair and Sam, Bernal for Leadbelly, Tiberi for Peixotini and Ayuso for Vladimir.

1	Armchair_Cyclist	85
1	Sam6	85
3	Leadbelly	80
4	Peixotini	77
5	Vladimir	75
6	Hayneplane	59
7	Abbulf	50
8	Del1962	45
9	Madrazo	25
9	RedheadDane	25
11	DJW	22
11	Ingsve	22
11	SlowClimber	22
14	DJSprtsch	17
14	EvansIsTheBest	17
14	Laarsland	17
14	Titan31	17
18	Bminchow	15
18	HiHope	15
18	JumboVismaFan	15
18	Kazistuta	15
18	QueenStagiaire	15
18	Search	15
24	BluesInTheBottle	14
25	LosBrolin	12
25	Nevs	12
27	BicycleBoy	9
28	Qazaqstan	8
29	Josedin	7
29	NBFC1962	7
31	AmisVelo	5
31	Hfgon1	5
31	Rufs	5
34	DevilsElbow	0
34	Onizuka999	0
34	SamuCuenca	0
34	Triley36	0
34	YellowKnight	0
	Collective_Wisdom	22
	Default	10

Standings
DJW was close enough to the lead for those 7 points that Tiberi took to be enough to put him on top.

1	DJW	291	(+1)
2	Bminchow	288	(-1)
3	Sam6	228	(+10)
4	Ingsve	224	(-1)
5	Armchair_Cyclist	223	(+11)
6	Del1962	212	(-)
7	Abbulf	210	(+2)
8	Madrazo	184	(+2)
9	Nevs	183	(-4)
10	Hayneplane	181	(+11)
11	Rufs	178	(-7)
12	Vladimir	177	(+15)
13	Peixotini	172	(+17)
14	Search	170	(-3)
15	AmisVelo	168	(-8)
16	Hfgon1	167	(-8)
17	QueenStagiaire	161	(-5)
18	JumboVismaFan	157	(-4)
19	SlowClimber	147	(-)
20	Leadbelly	145	(+17)
21	DJSprtsch	142	(-2)
21	HiHope	142	(-3)
23	YellowKnight	141	(-8)
24	SamuCuenca	138	(-8)
25	Kazistuta	128	(-3)
26	LosBrolin	123	(-3)
27	Josedin	114	(-2)
28	EvansIsTheBest	113	(+1)
29	Qazaqstan	109	(-1)
30	Onizuka999	108	(-6)
31	BluesInTheBottle	107	(-)
32	DevilsElbow	104	(-6)
33	RedheadDane	100	(-)
34	Laarsland	95	(-2)
35	Titan31	89	(-)
36	NBFC1962	81	(-2)
37	Triley36	70	(-1)
38	BicycleBoy	33	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	156
	Default	159

Overall points
I guess Carapaz owed his teams after yesterday: he has paid back.

CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	143	5
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	70	3
CICCONE Giulio	50	1
CONCI Nicola	18	3
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander	17	6
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	11	2

VENDRAME Andrea	-12	3
HARPER Chris	-20	13

It would have been even better for Vladimir if the break had made it: he has Quintana and Bilbao
The five teams with Carapaz, followed by the three with Del Toro.

1	Vladimir	183
2	Armchair_Cyclist	153
2	Sam6	153
4	Peixotini	150
5	Leadbelly	148
6	Hayneplane	101
7	Del1962	94
8	Abbulf	85
9	RedheadDane	66
10	NBFC1962	41
11	DJSprtsch	38
12	QueenStagiaire	29
13	SlowClimber	25
14	BicycleBoy	19
15	YellowKnight	17
16	Nevs	16
17	Hfgon1	15
17	JumboVismaFan	15
19	EvansIsTheBest	14
20	Bminchow	12
20	Titan31	12
22	Madrazo	8
23	Josedin	7
24	SamuCuenca	5
25	Kazistuta	2
25	Laarsland	2
27	Ingsve	0
28	Qazaqstan	-2
28	Search	-2
30	DJW	-3
31	BluesInTheBottle	-6
32	Rufs	-7
33	LosBrolin	-8
34	HiHope	-10
34	Triley36	-10
36	Onizuka999	-12
37	AmisVelo	-15
38	DevilsElbow	-20
	Collective_Wisdom	-3
	Default	15

Standings
The build-up of second places and pink jersey bonuses bring one of the Del Toro teams to the top: our 6th different leader is Del1962.

1	Del1962	1594	(+1)
2	DJW	1521	(-1)
3	Ingsve	1497	(-)
4	Madrazo	1473	(+1)
5	LosBrolin	1457	(-1)
6	Hayneplane	1440	(-)
7	Sam6	1385	(+1)
8	Abbulf	1366	(-1)
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1291	(+3)
10	DJSprtsch	1255	(-1)
11	SlowClimber	1209	(-1)
12	Peixotini	1170	(+9)
13	Bminchow	1135	(-)
14	HiHope	1131	(-3)
15	Kazistuta	1106	(-1)
16	QueenStagiaire	1088	(-)
17	BluesInTheBottle	1079	(-2)
18	Leadbelly	1068	(+8)
19	Nevs	1051	(-1)
20	Qazaqstan	1044	(-3)
21	JumboVismaFan	1041	(-1)
22	Search	1033	(-4)
23	Titan31	1016	(-)
24	AmisVelo	1004	(-2)
25	Hfgon1	987	(-1)
26	Vladimir	975	(+7)
27	EvansIsTheBest	936	(-2)
28	Laarsland	903	(-1)
29	BicycleBoy	866	(-)
30	NBFC1962	857	(+1)
31	DevilsElbow	849	(-3)
32	Triley36	820	(-2)
33	Rufs	806	(-1)
34	YellowKnight	640	(-)
35	Josedin	600	(-)
36	SamuCuenca	513	(-)
37	RedheadDane	485	(-)
38	Onizuka999	393	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1460
	Default	703

I suspect that the purplish rankings will be more volatile than the pink ones for the next three days.

Armchair Cyclist · Thursday at 10:23 PM

Stage 12
Sprint with little drama

Purplish points
(see several past editions for my objection to calling them cyclamen)

KOOIJ Olav	70	0
VAN UDEN Casper	40	1
TURNER Ben	25	1
PEDERSEN Mads	15	0
GROVES Kaden	10	5
FRETIN Milan	7	1
KANTER Max	5	0
MAGNIER Paul	3	3
GOVEKAR Matevz	2	3
MOSCHETTI Matteo	1	3

Ingsve's sprinter pick of Van Uden was cheaper, and is scoring better, that many of those chosen by others.

1	Ingsve	40
2	Titan31	25
3	Josedin	11
4	Bminchow	10
4	Nevs	10
4	Onizuka999	10
4	Rufs	10
4	SamuCuenca	10
9	Abbulf	3
9	Search	3
11	JumboVismaFan	2
11	Laarsland	2
11	Triley36	2
14	Armchair_Cyclist	1
14	RedheadDane	1

Standings
Anyone mind if we do a top ten here? It is the minor classification.

1	Bminchow	298	(+1)
2	DJW	291	(-1)
3	Ingsve	264	(+1)
4	Sam6	228	(-1)
5	Armchair_Cyclist	224	(-)
6	Abbulf	213	(+1)
7	Del1962	212	(-1)
8	Nevs	193	(+1)
9	Rufs	188	(+2)
10	Madrazo	184	(-2)

Pinkish points
A shade closer to the leader's jersey might not be legible (and isn't quick to find on the forum tools)

This would have been more interesting if the time gaps from the last couple of kilometres that were initially announced had been kept. As it is...

VAN UDEN Casper	55	1
TURNER Ben	25	1
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	13	3
GROVES Kaden	10	5
FRETIN Milan	7	1

DOUBLE Paul	-10	2
TONELLI Alessandro	-25	1

No big deal

1	Ingsve	55
2	Titan31	25
3	Abbulf	16
4	Del1962	13
5	Rufs	12
6	Josedin	11
7	Bminchow	10
7	Nevs	10
7	Onizuka999	10
10	SamuCuenca	9
11	Search	5
12	Laarsland	4
13	Triley36	2
14	Armchair_Cyclist	1
14	RedheadDane	1
16	loads of teams	0
36	Leadbelly	-10
36	NBFC1962	-10
38	Hayneplane	-12
	Collective_Wisdom	0
	Default	1

Standings

Some change on the podium, but not in many other places.

1	Del1962	1607	(-)
2	Ingsve	1552	(+1)
3	DJW	1521	(-1)
4	Madrazo	1473	(-)
5	LosBrolin	1457	(-)
6	Hayneplane	1428	(-)
7	Sam6	1385	(-)
8	Abbulf	1382	(-)
9	Armchair_Cyclist	1292	(-)
10	DJSprtsch	1255	(-)
11	SlowClimber	1209	(-)
12	Peixotini	1170	(-)
13	Bminchow	1145	(-)
14	HiHope	1131	(-)
15	Kazistuta	1106	(-)
16	QueenStagiaire	1088	(-)
17	BluesInTheBottle	1079	(-)
18	Nevs	1061	(+1)
19	Leadbelly	1058	(-1)
20	Qazaqstan	1044	(-)
21	JumboVismaFan	1041	(-)
21	Titan31	1041	(+2)
23	Search	1038	(-1)
24	AmisVelo	1004	(-)
25	Hfgon1	987	(-)
26	Vladimir	975	(-)
27	EvansIsTheBest	936	(-)
28	Laarsland	907	(-)
29	BicycleBoy	866	(-)
30	DevilsElbow	849	(+1)
31	NBFC1962	847	(-1)
32	Triley36	822	(-)
33	Rufs	818	(-)
34	YellowKnight	640	(-)
35	Josedin	611	(-)
36	SamuCuenca	522	(-)
37	RedheadDane	486	(-)
38	Onizuka999	403	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1460
	Default	704

Armchair Cyclist · 2025-05-24T12:45:07+0100

Stage 13
unlucky for those who like a timely game update

Stage points
Lots of us get very few points, only the Toreadors get anything substantial

PEDERSEN Mads	70	0
VAN AERT Wout	40	0
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	25	3
ROCHAS Rémy	15	0
GODON Dorian	10	1
ROGLIC Primoz	7	6
TIBERI Antonio	5	15
GEE Derek	3	4
AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto	2	0
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	1	19

Tiberi, Gee and Bernal, as well as Del Toro, for HP

1	Hayneplane	34
2	Abbulf	26
3	Del1962	25
4	EvansIsTheBest	13
5	NBFC1962	12
6	Kazistuta	11
7	BicycleBoy	8
7	BluesInTheBottle	8
9	AmisVelo	7
9	DevilsElbow	7
9	SamuCuenca	7
9	Triley36	7
13	DJW	6
13	Ingsve	6
13	Laarsland	6
13	Madrazo	6
13	SlowClimber	6
13	Titan31	6
19	Josedin	5
19	LosBrolin	5
19	Nevs	5
19	Peixotini	5
23	DJSprtsch	4
24	Armchair_Cyclist	1
24	Bminchow	1
24	HiHope	1
24	JumboVismaFan	1
24	Leadbelly	1
24	QueenStagiaire	1
24	Sam6	1
24	Search	1

Standings
Del Toro teams on the ascent

1	Bminchow	299	(-)
2	DJW	297	(-)
3	Ingsve	270	(-)
4	Abbulf	239	(+2)
5	Del1962	237	(+2)
6	Sam6	229	(-2)
7	Armchair_Cyclist	225	(-2)
8	Hayneplane	215	(+3)
9	Nevs	198	(-1)
10	Madrazo	190	(-)

Overall points
Arensman and Yates A (unpicked) lost a few seconds, and a few places at the end, so some GC top 12 movement.

DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	48	3
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	31	19
GEE Derek	26	4
CARUSO Damiano	16	8
GODON Dorian	10	1

CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	-5	5
ARENSMAN Thymen	-31	7

Gee and Bernal were the main beneficiaries of that split in the group: HP has both of them as well as Del Toro

1	Hayneplane	102
2	Abbulf	85
3	DJSprtsch	77
4	SlowClimber	52
5	EvansIsTheBest	47
5	HiHope	47
7	Del1962	44
8	Sam6	42
9	Laarsland	40
10	Ingsve	38
11	Kazistuta	37
12	DJW	36
12	JumboVismaFan	36
12	Madrazo	36
15	Search	35
16	BicycleBoy	31
16	BluesInTheBottle	31
16	Bminchow	31
19	Armchair_Cyclist	26
20	DevilsElbow	23
21	NBFC1962	18
22	Triley36	13
23	QueenStagiaire	12
24	SamuCuenca	9
25	AmisVelo	7
26	Josedin	5
26	Nevs	5
26	Titan31	5
29	RedheadDane	2
30	Vladimir	1
31	Hfgon1	0
31	Onizuka999	0
33	Leadbelly	-3
34	YellowKnight	-4
35	LosBrolin	-10
36	Qazaqstan	-15
37	Rufs	-27
38	Peixotini	-31
	Collective_Wisdom	52
	Default	41

Standings

1	Del1962	1651	(-)
2	Ingsve	1590	(-)
3	DJW	1557	(-)
4	Hayneplane	1530	(+2)
5	Madrazo	1509	(-1)
6	Abbulf	1467	(+2)
7	LosBrolin	1447	(-2)
8	Sam6	1427	(-1)
9	DJSprtsch	1332	(+1)
10	Armchair_Cyclist	1318	(-1)
11	SlowClimber	1261	(-)
12	HiHope	1178	(+2)
13	Bminchow	1176	(-)
14	Kazistuta	1143	(+1)
15	Peixotini	1139	(-3)
16	BluesInTheBottle	1110	(+1)
17	QueenStagiaire	1100	(-1)
18	JumboVismaFan	1077	(+3)
19	Search	1073	(+4)
20	Nevs	1066	(-2)
21	Leadbelly	1055	(-2)
22	Titan31	1046	(-1)
23	Qazaqstan	1029	(-3)
24	AmisVelo	1011	(-)
25	Hfgon1	987	(-)
26	EvansIsTheBest	983	(+1)
27	Vladimir	976	(-1)
28	Laarsland	947	(-)
29	BicycleBoy	897	(-)
30	DevilsElbow	872	(-)
31	NBFC1962	865	(-)
32	Triley36	835	(-)
33	Rufs	791	(-)
34	YellowKnight	636	(-)
35	Josedin	616	(-)
36	SamuCuenca	531	(-)
37	RedheadDane	488	(-)
38	Onizuka999	403	(-)
	Collective_Wisdom	1512
	Default	745

Armchair Cyclist · 2025-05-24T18:20:00+0100

Stage 14
What's Slovenian for 'chaos?

Stage points
Not just the sprinters that were expected.

ASGREEN Kasper	70	0
GROVES Kaden	40	5
KOOIJ Olav	25	0
AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto	15	0
OLDANI Stefano	10	1
MAESTRI Mirco	7	0
GEE Derek	5	4
PIDCOCK Thomas	3	0
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	2	5
HONORE Mikkel Frølich	1	0

No-one doubles up on top ten riders today.

1	Bminchow	40
1	Josedin	40
1	Nevs	40
1	Rufs	40
1	SamuCuenca	40
6	RedheadDane	10
7	BicycleBoy	5
7	BluesInTheBottle	5
7	DJSprtsch	5
7	Hayneplane	5
11	Armchair_Cyclist	2
11	Leadbelly	2
11	Peixotini	2
11	Sam6	2
11	Vladimir	2

Standings
Bminchow's lead is rather bigger than the mere two points of this morning.

1	Bminchow	339	(-)
2	DJW	297	(-)
3	Ingsve	270	(-)
4	Abbulf	239	(-)
5	Nevs	238	(+4)
6	Del1962	237	(-1)
7	Sam6	231	(-1)
8	Rufs	228	(+3)
9	Armchair_Cyclist	227	(-2)
10	Hayneplane	220	(-2)

Overall points

Not the GC neutral day that was expected.

YATES Simon	110	23
GEE Derek	85	4
CARUSO Damiano	70	8
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio	51	5
GROVES Kaden	43	5
ARENSMAN Thymen	31	7
RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto	22	2
DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac	18	3
OLDANI Stefano	13	1
POOLE Max	12	4

AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	-60	22
CICCONE Giulio	-140	1
TIBERI Antonio	-150	15

So which teams were on the swings, and which on the roundabouts? (some are on both: Los Brolin gained 211 from three riders, lost 210 on account of two others)

1	DJSprtsch	207
2	Leadbelly	187
3	DevilsElbow	180
4	Sam6	171
5	Abbulf	144
6	HiHope	120
6	YellowKnight	120
8	Triley36	114
9	Armchair_Cyclist	101
10	Bminchow	93
11	Qazaqstan	77
12	Del1962	65
13	Search	56
14	Kazistuta	53
15	Hfgon1	50
15	SamuCuenca	50
17	BicycleBoy	47
17	JumboVismaFan	47
19	QueenStagiaire	45
20	Peixotini	42
21	Rufs	20
22	Onizuka999	12
23	Titan31	3
24	LosBrolin	1
25	Vladimir	-3
26	Laarsland	-32
27	Hayneplane	-46
28	AmisVelo	-60
29	Madrazo	-78
30	Ingsve	-98
31	Josedin	-99
32	DJW	-100
33	BluesInTheBottle	-125
33	RedheadDane	-125
35	SlowClimber	-140
36	NBFC1962	-146
37	EvansIsTheBest	-148
38	Nevs	-167
	Collective_Wisdom	-30
	Default	110

Standings
With those that were on the podium dropping back (they both have Tiberi), Del now finds his lead more than 100 points. Fellow Toreador Abbulf moves up to second, and Sam6 also takes a podium spot.

1	Del1962	1716	(-)
2	Abbulf	1611	(+4)
3	Sam6	1598	(+5)
4	DJSprtsch	1539	(+5)
5	Ingsve	1492	(-3)
6	Hayneplane	1484	(-2)
7	DJW	1457	(-4)
8	LosBrolin	1448	(-1)
9	Madrazo	1431	(-4)
10	Armchair_Cyclist	1419	(-)
11	HiHope	1298	(+1)
12	Bminchow	1269	(+1)
13	Leadbelly	1242	(+8)
14	Kazistuta	1196	(-)
15	Peixotini	1181	(-)
16	QueenStagiaire	1145	(+1)
17	Search	1129	(+2)
18	JumboVismaFan	1124	(-)
19	SlowClimber	1121	(-8)
20	Qazaqstan	1106	(+3)
21	DevilsElbow	1052	(+9)
22	Titan31	1049	(-)
23	Hfgon1	1037	(+2)
24	BluesInTheBottle	985	(-8)
25	Vladimir	973	(+2)
26	AmisVelo	951	(-2)
27	Triley36	949	(+5)
28	BicycleBoy	944	(+1)
29	Laarsland	915	(-1)
30	Nevs	899	(-10)
31	EvansIsTheBest	835	(-5)
32	Rufs	811	(+1)
33	YellowKnight	756	(+1)
34	NBFC1962	719	(-3)
35	SamuCuenca	581	(+1)
36	Josedin	517	(-1)
37	Onizuka999	415	(+1)
38	RedheadDane	363	(-1)
	Collective_Wisdom	1482
	Default	855

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