- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 8
We all need a bit of mayhem
Sorry its late
Stage points
Three teams probably have more than they expected from Martinelli
Standings
Bminchow has the winners of three stages (Groves, Ayuso and Plapp), so is the Pedersen of the game.
Overall
Several big (if temporary) losers, and no-one has picked the two riders that did the damage.
The previous stage saw every team with a positive daily change: today everyone is on the wrong side of zero.
Standings
Another change at the top, Ingsve just getting in front. Because Damian Howson, having been in the break, dropped behind the main peloton, and in that peloton Embret Svestat-Bardseng finished near enough to the front to overtake him on countback. #everysecondcounts
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And I suspect that the only thing we know about the strade bianche stage is that anything could happen.
We all need a bit of mayhem
Sorry its late
Stage points
Three teams probably have more than they expected from Martinelli
| PLAPP Lucas | 70 | 2 |
| KELDERMAN Wilco | 40 | 0 |
| ULISSI Diego | 25 | 0 |
| ARRIETA LIZARRAGA Igor | 15 | 0 |
| PRODHOMME Nicolas | 10 | 3 |
| VENDRAME Andrea | 7 | 3 |
| FORTUNATO Lorenzo | 5 | 0 |
| STEINHAUSER Georg | 3 | 2 |
| BARDET Romain | 2 | 1 |
| MARTINELLI Alessio | 1 | 3 |
1 | Bminchow | 70 |
1 | Hfgon1 | 70 |
3 | Laarsland | 17 |
4 | Qazaqstan | 10 |
4 | QueenStagiaire | 10 |
6 | Rufs | 8 |
7 | Search | 7 |
8 | BluesInTheBottle | 3 |
8 | Josedin | 3 |
8 | SamuCuenca | 3 |
11 | LosBrolin | 1 |
Standings
Bminchow has the winners of three stages (Groves, Ayuso and Plapp), so is the Pedersen of the game.
1 | Bminchow | 251 | (+1) |
2 | DJW | 205 | (-1) |
3 | Ingsve | 178 | (-) |
4 | Rufs | 164 | (+2) |
5 | Nevs | 159 | (-1) |
6 | AmisVelo | 158 | (-1) |
7 | Hfgon1 | 142 | (+23) |
8 | SamuCuenca | 138 | (-1) |
8 | Search | 138 | (+1) |
10 | QueenStagiaire | 136 | (-) |
11 | Madrazo | 135 | (-4) |
12 | Del1962 | 112 | (-1) |
13 | Sam6 | 111 | (-1) |
13 | SlowClimber | 111 | (-1) |
15 | HiHope | 110 | (-1) |
16 | Abbulf | 108 | (-1) |
16 | Onizuka999 | 108 | (-1) |
18 | Armchair_Cyclist | 106 | (-1) |
19 | DJSprtsch | 105 | (-1) |
20 | Josedin | 100 | (-) |
20 | JumboVismaFan | 100 | (-1) |
22 | Kazistuta | 96 | (-1) |
23 | DevilsElbow | 94 | (-1) |
24 | Qazaqstan | 93 | (+2) |
25 | YellowKnight | 91 | (-2) |
26 | EvansIsTheBest | 87 | (-2) |
27 | LosBrolin | 86 | (-2) |
28 | BluesInTheBottle | 81 | (-) |
29 | Vladimir | 79 | (-2) |
30 | Hayneplane | 73 | (-1) |
31 | NBFC1962 | 64 | (-) |
32 | Peixotini | 60 | (-) |
33 | Laarsland | 59 | (+2) |
34 | Triley36 | 57 | (-1) |
35 | Titan31 | 50 | (-1) |
36 | RedheadDane | 37 | (-) |
37 | Leadbelly | 35 | (-) |
38 | BicycleBoy | 7 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 110 | ||
| Default | 97 |
Overall
Several big (if temporary) losers, and no-one has picked the two riders that did the damage.
| PLAPP Lucas | 72 pts | 2 teams |
| PRODHOMME Nicolas | 32 | 3 |
| BARDET Romain | 15 | 1 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | -15 | 5 |
| YATES Simon | -15 | 23 |
| POOLE Max | -50 | 4 |
| STORER Michael | -50 | 2 |
| TIBERI Antonio | -50 | 15 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | -80 | 3 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -110 | 22 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | -185 | 6 |
The previous stage saw every team with a positive daily change: today everyone is on the wrong side of zero.
1 | RedheadDane | -31 |
2 | Laarsland | -33 |
3 | Leadbelly | -53 |
4 | Hfgon1 | -57 |
5 | Onizuka999 | -61 |
6 | Bminchow | -62 |
7 | BicycleBoy | -66 |
7 | YellowKnight | -66 |
9 | Peixotini | -85 |
10 | Josedin | -97 |
11 | QueenStagiaire | -103 |
12 | Rufs | -104 |
13 | Search | -125 |
14 | Titan31 | -128 |
15 | Vladimir | -137 |
16 | JumboVismaFan | -138 |
17 | Kazistuta | -146 |
18 | Hayneplane | -148 |
18 | HiHope | -148 |
20 | Armchair_Cyclist | -149 |
21 | Qazaqstan | -150 |
22 | DJSprtsch | -154 |
23 | Abbulf | -157 |
23 | Sam6 | -157 |
25 | Nevs | -166 |
26 | BluesInTheBottle | -169 |
26 | SamuCuenca | -169 |
28 | SlowClimber | -181 |
29 | Ingsve | -189 |
30 | DJW | -191 |
31 | LosBrolin | -192 |
32 | Madrazo | -195 |
33 | Del1962 | -211 |
34 | DevilsElbow | -215 |
35 | Triley36 | -216 |
36 | NBFC1962 | -242 |
37 | EvansIsTheBest | -248 |
38 | AmisVelo | -302 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -198 | |
| Default | -32 |
Standings
Another change at the top, Ingsve just getting in front. Because Damian Howson, having been in the break, dropped behind the main peloton, and in that peloton Embret Svestat-Bardseng finished near enough to the front to overtake him on countback. #everysecondcounts
1 | Ingsve | 1076 | (+2) |
2 | DJW | 1075 | (-) |
3 | Madrazo | 1064 | (+1) |
4 | LosBrolin | 1017 | (+1) |
5 | Qazaqstan | 971 | (+3) |
6 | AmisVelo | 967 | (-5) |
7 | SlowClimber | 946 | (-) |
8 | Del1962 | 934 | (-2) |
9 | Sam6 | 905 | (+1) |
10 | Abbulf | 877 | (+1) |
11 | DJSprtsch | 863 | (+2) |
12 | HiHope | 862 | (+2) |
13 | EvansIsTheBest | 849 | (-4) |
14 | Bminchow | 845 | (+10) |
15 | QueenStagiaire | 831 | (+7) |
16 | Kazistuta | 818 | (+2) |
17 | DevilsElbow | 815 | (-5) |
18 | Hayneplane | 813 | (+1) |
19 | Nevs | 806 | (-3) |
20 | Armchair_Cyclist | 803 | (-) |
21 | BluesInTheBottle | 799 | (-4) |
22 | Titan31 | 783 | (+1) |
23 | NBFC1962 | 767 | (-8) |
24 | Triley36 | 734 | (-3) |
25 | Search | 732 | (-) |
26 | Hfgon1 | 710 | (+2) |
27 | JumboVismaFan | 708 | (-1) |
28 | Peixotini | 646 | (+2) |
29 | Vladimir | 625 | (-) |
30 | Leadbelly | 621 | (+2) |
31 | SamuCuenca | 605 | (-4) |
32 | Rufs | 602 | (-1) |
33 | Laarsland | 596 | (+1) |
34 | Josedin | 555 | (-1) |
35 | BicycleBoy | 529 | (-) |
36 | YellowKnight | 521 | (-) |
37 | Onizuka999 | 517 | (-) |
38 | RedheadDane | 298 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1062 | ||
| Default | 503 |
And I suspect that the only thing we know about the strade bianche stage is that anything could happen.
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Stage 9
It's not March, but it has strade bianche and the Siena finish.
Stage points
Some popular picks here, but the main points are not widely picked.
Far too many teams with multiple scorers to note them all, but the Del Toro teams also have S Yates and Ayuso (Del), S Yates and Bernal (Abbulf) and Tiberi and Bernal (Hayneplane)
Standings
No-one has the stage winner, so the impact of the stage is limited
Overall
A fairly huge range of scores, suggests that the standings will again be turbulent
Standings
Ingsve has four of the big positive scorers on the day, so hangs onto his lead. The Del Toro teams have a rider with a decent profit on his cost (98 points, Tjotta has 16 and Knox 14, and that's all), but thus far don't have the others in the team to put them higher than 5th, 8th and 9th
It's not March, but it has strade bianche and the Siena finish.
Stage points
Some popular picks here, but the main points are not widely picked.
| VAN AERT Wout | 70 | 0 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 40 | 3 |
| CICCONE Giulio | 25 | 1 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 15 | 5 |
| YATES Simon | 10 | 23 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 7 | 15 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 5 | 22 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | 3 | 7 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 2 | 19 |
| YATES Adam | 1 | 0 |
1 | Del1962 | 55 |
2 | Abbulf | 52 |
3 | Hayneplane | 49 |
4 | Peixotini | 35 |
5 | Armchair_Cyclist | 32 |
5 | Sam6 | 32 |
7 | Leadbelly | 30 |
8 | LosBrolin | 25 |
8 | RedheadDane | 25 |
10 | DJW | 24 |
10 | Ingsve | 24 |
10 | Madrazo | 24 |
13 | Titan31 | 22 |
14 | Vladimir | 20 |
15 | Laarsland | 19 |
16 | BicycleBoy | 17 |
16 | Bminchow | 17 |
16 | DJSprtsch | 17 |
16 | HiHope | 17 |
16 | JumboVismaFan | 17 |
16 | Kazistuta | 17 |
16 | Search | 17 |
23 | Hfgon1 | 15 |
24 | SlowClimber | 14 |
25 | BluesInTheBottle | 12 |
25 | Nevs | 12 |
27 | DevilsElbow | 10 |
27 | QueenStagiaire | 10 |
27 | Triley36 | 10 |
27 | YellowKnight | 10 |
31 | EvansIsTheBest | 9 |
32 | Qazaqstan | 8 |
32 | Rufs | 8 |
34 | Josedin | 7 |
34 | NBFC1962 | 7 |
36 | AmisVelo | 5 |
37 | Onizuka999 | 0 |
37 | SamuCuenca | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 24 | |
| Default | 12 |
No-one has the stage winner, so the impact of the stage is limited
1 | Bminchow | 268 | (-) |
2 | DJW | 229 | (-) |
3 | Ingsve | 202 | (-) |
4 | Rufs | 172 | (-) |
5 | Nevs | 171 | (-) |
6 | Del1962 | 167 | (+6) |
7 | AmisVelo | 163 | (-1) |
8 | Abbulf | 160 | (+8) |
9 | Madrazo | 159 | (+2) |
10 | Hfgon1 | 157 | (-3) |
11 | Search | 155 | (-3) |
12 | QueenStagiaire | 146 | (-2) |
13 | Sam6 | 143 | (-) |
14 | Armchair_Cyclist | 138 | (+4) |
14 | SamuCuenca | 138 | (-6) |
16 | HiHope | 127 | (-1) |
17 | SlowClimber | 125 | (-4) |
18 | DJSprtsch | 122 | (+1) |
18 | Hayneplane | 122 | (+12) |
20 | JumboVismaFan | 117 | (-) |
21 | Kazistuta | 113 | (+1) |
22 | LosBrolin | 111 | (+5) |
23 | Onizuka999 | 108 | (-7) |
24 | Josedin | 107 | (-4) |
25 | DevilsElbow | 104 | (-2) |
26 | Qazaqstan | 101 | (-2) |
26 | YellowKnight | 101 | (-1) |
28 | Vladimir | 99 | (+1) |
29 | EvansIsTheBest | 96 | (-3) |
30 | Peixotini | 95 | (+2) |
31 | BluesInTheBottle | 93 | (-3) |
32 | Laarsland | 78 | (+1) |
33 | Titan31 | 72 | (+2) |
34 | NBFC1962 | 71 | (-3) |
35 | Triley36 | 67 | (-1) |
36 | Leadbelly | 65 | (+1) |
37 | RedheadDane | 62 | (-1) |
38 | BicycleBoy | 24 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 134 | ||
| Default | 109 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 321 | 3 |
| CICCONE Giulio | 169 | 1 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 160 | 5 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 115 | 22 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 107 | 15 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 105 | 19 |
| YATES Simon | 90 | 23 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | 51 | 7 |
| POELS Wout | -20 | 2 |
| BARDET Romain | -23 | 1 |
| STORER Michael | -45 | 2 |
| POOLE Max | -132 | 4 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | -180 | 6 |
1 | Hayneplane | 536 |
2 | Del1962 | 504 |
3 | Armchair_Cyclist | 470 |
3 | Sam6 | 470 |
5 | Madrazo | 433 |
6 | Ingsve | 429 |
7 | DJW | 417 |
8 | Peixotini | 408 |
9 | Abbulf | 398 |
10 | Leadbelly | 392 |
11 | LosBrolin | 363 |
12 | Laarsland | 327 |
12 | Search | 327 |
14 | DJSprtsch | 326 |
15 | SlowClimber | 316 |
16 | JumboVismaFan | 313 |
17 | Kazistuta | 302 |
18 | HiHope | 295 |
19 | Bminchow | 293 |
20 | QueenStagiaire | 277 |
20 | Vladimir | 277 |
22 | Nevs | 229 |
23 | BluesInTheBottle | 228 |
24 | BicycleBoy | 226 |
25 | Hfgon1 | 207 |
26 | Titan31 | 206 |
27 | Rufs | 183 |
28 | RedheadDane | 177 |
29 | Josedin | 62 |
30 | Qazaqstan | 58 |
31 | YellowKnight | 40 |
32 | EvansIsTheBest | 34 |
33 | AmisVelo | -65 |
34 | NBFC1962 | -66 |
35 | Triley36 | -84 |
36 | DevilsElbow | -105 |
37 | Onizuka999 | -128 |
38 | SamuCuenca | -203 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 417 | |
| Default | 165 |
Ingsve has four of the big positive scorers on the day, so hangs onto his lead. The Del Toro teams have a rider with a decent profit on his cost (98 points, Tjotta has 16 and Knox 14, and that's all), but thus far don't have the others in the team to put them higher than 5th, 8th and 9th
1 | Ingsve | 1505 | (-) |
2 | Madrazo | 1497 | (+1) |
3 | DJW | 1492 | (-1) |
4 | Del1962 | 1438 | (+4) |
5 | LosBrolin | 1380 | (-1) |
6 | Sam6 | 1375 | (+3) |
7 | Hayneplane | 1349 | (+11) |
8 | Abbulf | 1275 | (+2) |
9 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1273 | (+11) |
10 | SlowClimber | 1262 | (-3) |
11 | DJSprtsch | 1189 | (-) |
12 | HiHope | 1157 | (-) |
13 | Bminchow | 1138 | (+1) |
14 | Kazistuta | 1120 | (+2) |
15 | QueenStagiaire | 1108 | (-) |
16 | Search | 1059 | (+9) |
17 | Peixotini | 1054 | (+11) |
18 | Nevs | 1035 | (+1) |
19 | Qazaqstan | 1029 | (-14) |
20 | BluesInTheBottle | 1027 | (+1) |
21 | JumboVismaFan | 1021 | (+6) |
22 | Leadbelly | 1013 | (+8) |
23 | Titan31 | 989 | (-1) |
24 | Laarsland | 923 | (+9) |
25 | Hfgon1 | 917 | (+1) |
26 | AmisVelo | 902 | (-20) |
26 | Vladimir | 902 | (+3) |
28 | EvansIsTheBest | 883 | (-15) |
29 | Rufs | 785 | (+3) |
30 | BicycleBoy | 755 | (+5) |
31 | DevilsElbow | 710 | (-14) |
32 | NBFC1962 | 701 | (-9) |
33 | Triley36 | 650 | (-9) |
34 | Josedin | 617 | (-) |
35 | YellowKnight | 561 | (+1) |
36 | RedheadDane | 475 | (+2) |
37 | SamuCuenca | 402 | (-6) |
38 | Onizuka999 | 389 | (-1) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1479 | ||
| Default | 668 |
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So where did the points come from (so far)?
Highest Stage point scorers
Overall main scorers
Huge degree of overlap between the teams in the current top 3
Highest Stage point scorers
| PEDERSEN Mads | 230 pts | 0 teams |
| VAN AERT Wout | 110 | 0 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 81 | 3 |
| GROVES Kaden | 80 | 5 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 76 | 22 |
| PLAPP Lucas | 70 | 2 |
| TARLING Joshua | 70 | 2 |
| VAN UDEN Casper | 70 | 1 |
| AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto | 65 | 0 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | 55 | 6 |
| ZAMBANINI Edoardo | 50 | 0 |
| KOOIJ Olav | 41 | 0 |
| FRETIN Milan | 40 | 1 |
| KELDERMAN Wilco | 40 | 0 |
| STRONG Corbin | 40 | 0 |
| CICCONE Giulio | 35 | 1 |
| PIDCOCK Thomas | 35 | 0 |
| ULISSI Diego | 32 | 0 |
| ZIJLAARD Maikel | 32 | 6 |
| MAGNIER Paul | 30 | 3 |
1 | Bminchow | 268 | Groves, Ayuso, Plapp |
2 | DJW | 229 | Ayuso, Tarling, Zijlard |
3 | Ingsve | 202 | Ayuso, Van Uden |
4 | Rufs | 172 | Groves, Ayuso |
5 | Nevs | 171 | Groves, Ayuso |
6 | Del1962 | 167 | Del Toro, Ayuso |
7 | AmisVelo | 163 | Ayuso, Roglic, Zijlard |
8 | Abbulf | 160 | Del Toro, Magnier |
9 | Madrazo | 159 | Ayuso, Zijlard |
10 | Hfgon1 | 157 | Ayuso, Plapp |
Overall main scorers
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 612 | 3 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 491 | 22 |
| PEDERSEN Mads | 405 | 0 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 329 | 15 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 288 | 5 |
| CICCONE Giulio | 275 | 1 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | 226 | 6 |
| YATES Simon | 225 | 23 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 222 | 19 |
| MCNULTY Brandon | 168 | 0 |
| YATES Adam | 151 | 0 |
| FORTUNATO Lorenzo | 135 | 0 |
| VAN AERT Wout | 135 | 0 |
| STORER Michael | 128 | 2 |
| PIDCOCK Thomas | 120 | 0 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 119 | 8 |
| ULISSI Diego | 113 | 0 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | 107 | 7 |
| VACEK Mathias | 106 | 0 |
| VAN UDEN Casper | 100 | 1 |
| GROVES Kaden | 95 | 5 |
| ZAMBANINI Edoardo | 93 | 0 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 90 | 2 |
| AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto | 87 | 0 |
| PLAPP Lucas | 85 | 2 |
| TARLING Joshua | 85 | 2 |
| KOOIJ Olav | 81 | 0 |
| HARPER Chris | 78 | 13 |
| PELLIZZARI Giulio | 74 | 0 |
| PIGANZOLI Davide | 71 | 5 |
Huge degree of overlap between the teams in the current top 3
1 | Ingsve | 1505 | Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Bernal, Van Uden, Harper |
2 | Madrazo | 1497 | Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Bernal, Rubio, Harper |
3 | DJW | 1492 | Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Bernal, Tarling, Harper |
4 | Del1962 | 1438 | Del Toro, Ayuso, Yates |
5 | LosBrolin | 1380 | Ayuso, Tiberi, Yates, Caruso, Arensman, Harper |
6 | Sam6 | 1375 | Ayuso, Carapaz, Yates, Bernal, Caruso, Harper |
7 | Hayneplane | 1349 | Del Toro, Tiberi, Bernal |
8 | Abbulf | 1275 | Del Toro, Yates, Bernal |
9 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1273 | Ayuso, Carapaz, Yates, Bernal |
10 | SlowClimber | 1262 | Ayuso, Tiberi, Bernal, Caruso, Piganzoli |
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Non finishers (so far)
13 riders have climbed off so far: 4 of them were unselected, but the seven that affect our game, in order of price, are:
None of them had got a top ten finish that would have ameliorated their loss to some extent.
Value (and number) of riders lost to our teams:
Del, Sam6 and Hayneplane all manage to hold a top ten place despite the fairly expensive loss of Hindley: Laarsland can count anyone he finishes above as a victory after losing his most expensive rider on the first stage.
Spreadsheet
13 riders have climbed off so far: 4 of them were unselected, but the seven that affect our game, in order of price, are:
| LANDA MEANA Mikel | 973 | 1 |
| HINDLEY Jai | 474 | 7 |
| HIRT Jan | 199 | 2 |
| KRAGH ANDERSEN Søren | 129 | 2 |
| BOUWMAN Koen | 76 | 6 |
| HOLLMANN Juri | 68 | 1 |
| BOUCHARD Geoffrey | 40 | 2 |
Value (and number) of riders lost to our teams:
| Laarsland | 1 | 973 |
| DevilsElbow | 2 | 550 |
| HiHope | 2 | 550 |
| Del1962 | 1 | 474 |
| Hayneplane | 1 | 474 |
| Rufs | 1 | 474 |
| Sam6 | 1 | 474 |
| Search | 1 | 474 |
| Bminchow | 2 | 205 |
| Armchair_Cyclist | 1 | 199 |
| Hfgon1 | 1 | 199 |
| Nevs | 1 | 129 |
| NBFC1962 | 1 | 76 |
| SlowClimber | 1 | 76 |
| Titan31 | 1 | 76 |
| Josedin | 1 | 68 |
| SamuCuenca | 1 | 40 |
| Vladimir | 1 | 40 |
Del, Sam6 and Hayneplane all manage to hold a top ten place despite the fairly expensive loss of Hindley: Laarsland can count anyone he finishes above as a victory after losing his most expensive rider on the first stage.
Spreadsheet
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Very detailed report there 👏
Impressed that I have a chance of finishing top 5 despite Hindley crashing out so early he missed all his stage scoring opportunities.
Impressed that I have a chance of finishing top 5 despite Hindley crashing out so early he missed all his stage scoring opportunities.
- Mar 22, 2010
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Stage 10
Rain affected TT to Pisa
Stage points
Back to slim pickings in the minor category
Both Frigo and Affini for Testa Rossa Danese
Standings
That's probably the last time that DJW can expect Tarling to boost his score in this category, but he is a major contributor to that second place.
Overall points
Don't blame it on the sunshine, blame it on the rain
The Yates-Bernal combination is very common, so quite a bit of cancelling out of losses and gains.
Standings
Plenty of change again, and still hard to say how this game will pan out.
Does the mid-race calm start tomorrow or the following day?
Rain affected TT to Pisa
Stage points
Back to slim pickings in the minor category
| HOOLE Daan | 70 | 0 |
| TARLING Joshua | 40 | 2 |
| HAYTER Ethan | 25 | 1 |
| CATTANEO Mattia | 15 | 0 |
| AFFINI Edoardo | 10 | 1 |
| VINE Jay | 7 | 0 |
| PLAPP Lucas | 5 | 2 |
| FRIGO Marco | 3 | 5 |
| HEPBURN Michael | 2 | 0 |
| AZPARREN IRURZUN Xabier Mikel | 1 | 1 |
Both Frigo and Affini for Testa Rossa Danese
1 | DJW | 40 |
1 | YellowKnight | 40 |
3 | JumboVismaFan | 25 |
4 | RedheadDane | 13 |
5 | Bminchow | 5 |
5 | Hfgon1 | 5 |
7 | DJSprtsch | 3 |
7 | NBFC1962 | 3 |
7 | Triley36 | 3 |
7 | Vladimir | 3 |
11 | Rufs | 1 |
Standings
That's probably the last time that DJW can expect Tarling to boost his score in this category, but he is a major contributor to that second place.
1 | Bminchow | 273 | (-) |
2 | DJW | 269 | (-) |
3 | Ingsve | 202 | (-) |
4 | Rufs | 173 | (-) |
5 | Nevs | 171 | (-) |
6 | Del1962 | 167 | (-) |
7 | AmisVelo | 163 | (-) |
8 | Hfgon1 | 162 | (+2) |
9 | Abbulf | 160 | (-1) |
10 | Madrazo | 159 | (-1) |
11 | Search | 155 | (-) |
12 | QueenStagiaire | 146 | (-) |
13 | Sam6 | 143 | (-) |
14 | JumboVismaFan | 142 | (+6) |
15 | YellowKnight | 141 | (+11) |
16 | Armchair_Cyclist | 138 | (-2) |
16 | SamuCuenca | 138 | (-2) |
18 | HiHope | 127 | (-2) |
19 | DJSprtsch | 125 | (-1) |
19 | SlowClimber | 125 | (-2) |
21 | Hayneplane | 122 | (-3) |
22 | Kazistuta | 113 | (-1) |
23 | LosBrolin | 111 | (-1) |
24 | Onizuka999 | 108 | (-1) |
25 | Josedin | 107 | (-1) |
26 | DevilsElbow | 104 | (-1) |
27 | Vladimir | 102 | (+1) |
28 | Qazaqstan | 101 | (-2) |
29 | EvansIsTheBest | 96 | (-) |
30 | Peixotini | 95 | (-) |
31 | BluesInTheBottle | 93 | (-) |
32 | Laarsland | 78 | (-) |
33 | RedheadDane | 75 | (+4) |
34 | NBFC1962 | 74 | (-) |
35 | Titan31 | 72 | (-2) |
36 | Triley36 | 70 | (-1) |
37 | Leadbelly | 65 | (-1) |
38 | BicycleBoy | 24 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 134 | ||
| Default | 149 |
Overall points
Don't blame it on the sunshine, blame it on the rain
| ROGLIC Primoz | 105 | 6 |
| YATES Simon | 50 | 23 |
| GEE Derek | 46 | 4 |
| TARLING Joshua | 40 | 2 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | 31 | 7 |
| HAYTER Ethan | 25 | 1 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 18 | 3 |
| HARPER Chris | 12 | 13 |
| AFFINI Edoardo | 10 | 1 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | -24 | 2 |
| STORER Michael | -24 | 2 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | -70 | 19 |
| CICCONE Giulio | -75 | 1 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | -115 | 5 |
The Yates-Bernal combination is very common, so quite a bit of cancelling out of losses and gains.
1 | Triley36 | 180 |
2 | DevilsElbow | 159 |
3 | AmisVelo | 117 |
4 | NBFC1962 | 115 |
5 | SamuCuenca | 106 |
6 | BicycleBoy | 92 |
7 | LosBrolin | 85 |
8 | Del1962 | 62 |
8 | YellowKnight | 62 |
10 | BluesInTheBottle | 58 |
11 | Hfgon1 | 55 |
12 | EvansIsTheBest | 39 |
13 | DJW | 32 |
14 | DJSprtsch | 28 |
14 | Rufs | 28 |
16 | Qazaqstan | 17 |
17 | Onizuka999 | 16 |
18 | Titan31 | 15 |
19 | Abbulf | 6 |
20 | JumboVismaFan | 5 |
21 | Nevs | 0 |
22 | Ingsve | -8 |
23 | Hayneplane | -10 |
24 | Bminchow | -15 |
25 | HiHope | -16 |
25 | Kazistuta | -16 |
27 | Laarsland | -22 |
28 | Josedin | -24 |
28 | Search | -24 |
30 | Madrazo | -32 |
31 | Peixotini | -34 |
32 | QueenStagiaire | -49 |
33 | RedheadDane | -56 |
34 | SlowClimber | -78 |
35 | Leadbelly | -93 |
36 | Vladimir | -110 |
37 | Armchair_Cyclist | -135 |
38 | Sam6 | -143 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -16 | |
| Default | 20 |
Standings
Plenty of change again, and still hard to say how this game will pan out.
1 | DJW | 1524 | (+2) |
2 | Del1962 | 1500 | (+2) |
3 | Ingsve | 1497 | (-2) |
4 | LosBrolin | 1465 | (+1) |
5 | Madrazo | 1465 | (-3) |
6 | Hayneplane | 1339 | (+1) |
7 | Abbulf | 1281 | (+1) |
8 | Sam6 | 1232 | (-2) |
9 | DJSprtsch | 1217 | (+2) |
10 | SlowClimber | 1184 | (-) |
11 | HiHope | 1141 | (+1) |
12 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1138 | (-3) |
13 | Bminchow | 1123 | (-) |
14 | Kazistuta | 1104 | (-) |
15 | BluesInTheBottle | 1085 | (+5) |
16 | QueenStagiaire | 1059 | (-1) |
17 | Qazaqstan | 1046 | (+2) |
18 | Nevs | 1035 | (-) |
18 | Search | 1035 | (-2) |
20 | JumboVismaFan | 1026 | (+1) |
21 | Peixotini | 1020 | (-4) |
22 | AmisVelo | 1019 | (+4) |
23 | Titan31 | 1004 | (-) |
24 | Hfgon1 | 972 | (+1) |
25 | EvansIsTheBest | 922 | (+3) |
26 | Leadbelly | 920 | (-4) |
27 | Laarsland | 901 | (-3) |
28 | DevilsElbow | 869 | (+3) |
29 | BicycleBoy | 847 | (+1) |
30 | Triley36 | 830 | (+3) |
31 | NBFC1962 | 816 | (+1) |
32 | Rufs | 813 | (-3) |
33 | Vladimir | 792 | (-7) |
34 | YellowKnight | 623 | (+1) |
35 | Josedin | 593 | (-1) |
36 | SamuCuenca | 508 | (+1) |
37 | RedheadDane | 419 | (-1) |
38 | Onizuka999 | 405 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1463 | ||
| Default | 688 |
Does the mid-race calm start tomorrow or the following day?
Every day Del Torro stays in pink is a bonus for those of us who picked him
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
18 points of bonus. And 18 points less for the teams with Roglic or Ayuso each day.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 11
That one was for the breakaway apparently. Does the last 7km count?
Stage points
Not the random group of rare picks I would have expected.
This isn't what I expected either.
The combinations that included Carapaz: Bernal and Ayuso for both Armchair and Sam, Bernal for Leadbelly, Tiberi for Peixotini and Ayuso for Vladimir.
Standings
DJW was close enough to the lead for those 7 points that Tiberi took to be enough to put him on top.
Overall points
I guess Carapaz owed his teams after yesterday: he has paid back.
It would have been even better for Vladimir if the break had made it: he has Quintana and Bilbao
The five teams with Carapaz, followed by the three with Del Toro.
Standings
The build-up of second places and pink jersey bonuses bring one of the Del Toro teams to the top: our 6th different leader is Del1962.
I suspect that the purplish rankings will be more volatile than the pink ones for the next three days.
That one was for the breakaway apparently. Does the last 7km count?
Stage points
Not the random group of rare picks I would have expected.
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 70 | 5 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 40 | 3 |
| CICCONE Giulio | 25 | 1 |
| PIDCOCK Thomas | 15 | 0 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 10 | 19 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 7 | 15 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 5 | 22 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 3 | 2 |
| GEE Derek | 2 | 4 |
| ULISSI Diego | 1 | 0 |
This isn't what I expected either.
The combinations that included Carapaz: Bernal and Ayuso for both Armchair and Sam, Bernal for Leadbelly, Tiberi for Peixotini and Ayuso for Vladimir.
1 | Armchair_Cyclist | 85 |
1 | Sam6 | 85 |
3 | Leadbelly | 80 |
4 | Peixotini | 77 |
5 | Vladimir | 75 |
6 | Hayneplane | 59 |
7 | Abbulf | 50 |
8 | Del1962 | 45 |
9 | Madrazo | 25 |
9 | RedheadDane | 25 |
11 | DJW | 22 |
11 | Ingsve | 22 |
11 | SlowClimber | 22 |
14 | DJSprtsch | 17 |
14 | EvansIsTheBest | 17 |
14 | Laarsland | 17 |
14 | Titan31 | 17 |
18 | Bminchow | 15 |
18 | HiHope | 15 |
18 | JumboVismaFan | 15 |
18 | Kazistuta | 15 |
18 | QueenStagiaire | 15 |
18 | Search | 15 |
24 | BluesInTheBottle | 14 |
25 | LosBrolin | 12 |
25 | Nevs | 12 |
27 | BicycleBoy | 9 |
28 | Qazaqstan | 8 |
29 | Josedin | 7 |
29 | NBFC1962 | 7 |
31 | AmisVelo | 5 |
31 | Hfgon1 | 5 |
31 | Rufs | 5 |
34 | DevilsElbow | 0 |
34 | Onizuka999 | 0 |
34 | SamuCuenca | 0 |
34 | Triley36 | 0 |
34 | YellowKnight | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 22 | |
| Default | 10 |
Standings
DJW was close enough to the lead for those 7 points that Tiberi took to be enough to put him on top.
1 | DJW | 291 | (+1) |
2 | Bminchow | 288 | (-1) |
3 | Sam6 | 228 | (+10) |
4 | Ingsve | 224 | (-1) |
5 | Armchair_Cyclist | 223 | (+11) |
6 | Del1962 | 212 | (-) |
7 | Abbulf | 210 | (+2) |
8 | Madrazo | 184 | (+2) |
9 | Nevs | 183 | (-4) |
10 | Hayneplane | 181 | (+11) |
11 | Rufs | 178 | (-7) |
12 | Vladimir | 177 | (+15) |
13 | Peixotini | 172 | (+17) |
14 | Search | 170 | (-3) |
15 | AmisVelo | 168 | (-8) |
16 | Hfgon1 | 167 | (-8) |
17 | QueenStagiaire | 161 | (-5) |
18 | JumboVismaFan | 157 | (-4) |
19 | SlowClimber | 147 | (-) |
20 | Leadbelly | 145 | (+17) |
21 | DJSprtsch | 142 | (-2) |
21 | HiHope | 142 | (-3) |
23 | YellowKnight | 141 | (-8) |
24 | SamuCuenca | 138 | (-8) |
25 | Kazistuta | 128 | (-3) |
26 | LosBrolin | 123 | (-3) |
27 | Josedin | 114 | (-2) |
28 | EvansIsTheBest | 113 | (+1) |
29 | Qazaqstan | 109 | (-1) |
30 | Onizuka999 | 108 | (-6) |
31 | BluesInTheBottle | 107 | (-) |
32 | DevilsElbow | 104 | (-6) |
33 | RedheadDane | 100 | (-) |
34 | Laarsland | 95 | (-2) |
35 | Titan31 | 89 | (-) |
36 | NBFC1962 | 81 | (-2) |
37 | Triley36 | 70 | (-1) |
38 | BicycleBoy | 33 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 156 | ||
| Default | 159 |
Overall points
I guess Carapaz owed his teams after yesterday: he has paid back.
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 143 | 5 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 70 | 3 |
| CICCONE Giulio | 50 | 1 |
| CONCI Nicola | 18 | 3 |
| QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander | 17 | 6 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 11 | 2 |
| VENDRAME Andrea | -12 | 3 |
| HARPER Chris | -20 | 13 |
It would have been even better for Vladimir if the break had made it: he has Quintana and Bilbao
The five teams with Carapaz, followed by the three with Del Toro.
1 | Vladimir | 183 |
2 | Armchair_Cyclist | 153 |
2 | Sam6 | 153 |
4 | Peixotini | 150 |
5 | Leadbelly | 148 |
6 | Hayneplane | 101 |
7 | Del1962 | 94 |
8 | Abbulf | 85 |
9 | RedheadDane | 66 |
10 | NBFC1962 | 41 |
11 | DJSprtsch | 38 |
12 | QueenStagiaire | 29 |
13 | SlowClimber | 25 |
14 | BicycleBoy | 19 |
15 | YellowKnight | 17 |
16 | Nevs | 16 |
17 | Hfgon1 | 15 |
17 | JumboVismaFan | 15 |
19 | EvansIsTheBest | 14 |
20 | Bminchow | 12 |
20 | Titan31 | 12 |
22 | Madrazo | 8 |
23 | Josedin | 7 |
24 | SamuCuenca | 5 |
25 | Kazistuta | 2 |
25 | Laarsland | 2 |
27 | Ingsve | 0 |
28 | Qazaqstan | -2 |
28 | Search | -2 |
30 | DJW | -3 |
31 | BluesInTheBottle | -6 |
32 | Rufs | -7 |
33 | LosBrolin | -8 |
34 | HiHope | -10 |
34 | Triley36 | -10 |
36 | Onizuka999 | -12 |
37 | AmisVelo | -15 |
38 | DevilsElbow | -20 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -3 | |
| Default | 15 |
Standings
The build-up of second places and pink jersey bonuses bring one of the Del Toro teams to the top: our 6th different leader is Del1962.
1 | Del1962 | 1594 | (+1) |
2 | DJW | 1521 | (-1) |
3 | Ingsve | 1497 | (-) |
4 | Madrazo | 1473 | (+1) |
5 | LosBrolin | 1457 | (-1) |
6 | Hayneplane | 1440 | (-) |
7 | Sam6 | 1385 | (+1) |
8 | Abbulf | 1366 | (-1) |
9 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1291 | (+3) |
10 | DJSprtsch | 1255 | (-1) |
11 | SlowClimber | 1209 | (-1) |
12 | Peixotini | 1170 | (+9) |
13 | Bminchow | 1135 | (-) |
14 | HiHope | 1131 | (-3) |
15 | Kazistuta | 1106 | (-1) |
16 | QueenStagiaire | 1088 | (-) |
17 | BluesInTheBottle | 1079 | (-2) |
18 | Leadbelly | 1068 | (+8) |
19 | Nevs | 1051 | (-1) |
20 | Qazaqstan | 1044 | (-3) |
21 | JumboVismaFan | 1041 | (-1) |
22 | Search | 1033 | (-4) |
23 | Titan31 | 1016 | (-) |
24 | AmisVelo | 1004 | (-2) |
25 | Hfgon1 | 987 | (-1) |
26 | Vladimir | 975 | (+7) |
27 | EvansIsTheBest | 936 | (-2) |
28 | Laarsland | 903 | (-1) |
29 | BicycleBoy | 866 | (-) |
30 | NBFC1962 | 857 | (+1) |
31 | DevilsElbow | 849 | (-3) |
32 | Triley36 | 820 | (-2) |
33 | Rufs | 806 | (-1) |
34 | YellowKnight | 640 | (-) |
35 | Josedin | 600 | (-) |
36 | SamuCuenca | 513 | (-) |
37 | RedheadDane | 485 | (-) |
38 | Onizuka999 | 393 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1460 | ||
| Default | 703 |
I suspect that the purplish rankings will be more volatile than the pink ones for the next three days.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 12
Sprint with little drama
Purplish points
(see several past editions for my objection to calling them cyclamen)
Ingsve's sprinter pick of Van Uden was cheaper, and is scoring better, that many of those chosen by others.
Standings
Anyone mind if we do a top ten here? It is the minor classification.
Pinkish points
A shade closer to the leader's jersey might not be legible (and isn't quick to find on the forum tools)
This would have been more interesting if the time gaps from the last couple of kilometres that were initially announced had been kept. As it is...
No big deal
Standings
Some change on the podium, but not in many other places.
Sprint with little drama
Purplish points
(see several past editions for my objection to calling them cyclamen)
| KOOIJ Olav | 70 | 0 |
| VAN UDEN Casper | 40 | 1 |
| TURNER Ben | 25 | 1 |
| PEDERSEN Mads | 15 | 0 |
| GROVES Kaden | 10 | 5 |
| FRETIN Milan | 7 | 1 |
| KANTER Max | 5 | 0 |
| MAGNIER Paul | 3 | 3 |
| GOVEKAR Matevz | 2 | 3 |
| MOSCHETTI Matteo | 1 | 3 |
Ingsve's sprinter pick of Van Uden was cheaper, and is scoring better, that many of those chosen by others.
1 | Ingsve | 40 |
2 | Titan31 | 25 |
3 | Josedin | 11 |
4 | Bminchow | 10 |
4 | Nevs | 10 |
4 | Onizuka999 | 10 |
4 | Rufs | 10 |
4 | SamuCuenca | 10 |
9 | Abbulf | 3 |
9 | Search | 3 |
11 | JumboVismaFan | 2 |
11 | Laarsland | 2 |
11 | Triley36 | 2 |
14 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1 |
14 | RedheadDane | 1 |
Standings
Anyone mind if we do a top ten here? It is the minor classification.
1 | Bminchow | 298 | (+1) |
2 | DJW | 291 | (-1) |
3 | Ingsve | 264 | (+1) |
4 | Sam6 | 228 | (-1) |
5 | Armchair_Cyclist | 224 | (-) |
6 | Abbulf | 213 | (+1) |
7 | Del1962 | 212 | (-1) |
8 | Nevs | 193 | (+1) |
9 | Rufs | 188 | (+2) |
10 | Madrazo | 184 | (-2) |
Pinkish points
A shade closer to the leader's jersey might not be legible (and isn't quick to find on the forum tools)
This would have been more interesting if the time gaps from the last couple of kilometres that were initially announced had been kept. As it is...
| VAN UDEN Casper | 55 | 1 |
| TURNER Ben | 25 | 1 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 13 | 3 |
| GROVES Kaden | 10 | 5 |
| FRETIN Milan | 7 | 1 |
| DOUBLE Paul | -10 | 2 |
| TONELLI Alessandro | -25 | 1 |
1 | Ingsve | 55 |
2 | Titan31 | 25 |
3 | Abbulf | 16 |
4 | Del1962 | 13 |
5 | Rufs | 12 |
6 | Josedin | 11 |
7 | Bminchow | 10 |
7 | Nevs | 10 |
7 | Onizuka999 | 10 |
10 | SamuCuenca | 9 |
11 | Search | 5 |
12 | Laarsland | 4 |
13 | Triley36 | 2 |
14 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1 |
14 | RedheadDane | 1 |
16 | loads of teams | 0 |
36 | Leadbelly | -10 |
36 | NBFC1962 | -10 |
38 | Hayneplane | -12 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 0 | |
| Default | 1 |
Standings
Some change on the podium, but not in many other places.
1 | Del1962 | 1607 | (-) |
2 | Ingsve | 1552 | (+1) |
3 | DJW | 1521 | (-1) |
4 | Madrazo | 1473 | (-) |
5 | LosBrolin | 1457 | (-) |
6 | Hayneplane | 1428 | (-) |
7 | Sam6 | 1385 | (-) |
8 | Abbulf | 1382 | (-) |
9 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1292 | (-) |
10 | DJSprtsch | 1255 | (-) |
11 | SlowClimber | 1209 | (-) |
12 | Peixotini | 1170 | (-) |
13 | Bminchow | 1145 | (-) |
14 | HiHope | 1131 | (-) |
15 | Kazistuta | 1106 | (-) |
16 | QueenStagiaire | 1088 | (-) |
17 | BluesInTheBottle | 1079 | (-) |
18 | Nevs | 1061 | (+1) |
19 | Leadbelly | 1058 | (-1) |
20 | Qazaqstan | 1044 | (-) |
21 | JumboVismaFan | 1041 | (-) |
21 | Titan31 | 1041 | (+2) |
23 | Search | 1038 | (-1) |
24 | AmisVelo | 1004 | (-) |
25 | Hfgon1 | 987 | (-) |
26 | Vladimir | 975 | (-) |
27 | EvansIsTheBest | 936 | (-) |
28 | Laarsland | 907 | (-) |
29 | BicycleBoy | 866 | (-) |
30 | DevilsElbow | 849 | (+1) |
31 | NBFC1962 | 847 | (-1) |
32 | Triley36 | 822 | (-) |
33 | Rufs | 818 | (-) |
34 | YellowKnight | 640 | (-) |
35 | Josedin | 611 | (-) |
36 | SamuCuenca | 522 | (-) |
37 | RedheadDane | 486 | (-) |
38 | Onizuka999 | 403 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1460 | ||
| Default | 704 |
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 13
unlucky for those who like a timely game update
Stage points
Lots of us get very few points, only the Toreadors get anything substantial
Tiberi, Gee and Bernal, as well as Del Toro, for HP
Standings
Del Toro teams on the ascent
Overall points
Arensman and Yates A (unpicked) lost a few seconds, and a few places at the end, so some GC top 12 movement.
Gee and Bernal were the main beneficiaries of that split in the group: HP has both of them as well as Del Toro
Standings
unlucky for those who like a timely game update
Stage points
Lots of us get very few points, only the Toreadors get anything substantial
| PEDERSEN Mads | 70 | 0 |
| VAN AERT Wout | 40 | 0 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 25 | 3 |
| ROCHAS Rémy | 15 | 0 |
| GODON Dorian | 10 | 1 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | 7 | 6 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 5 | 15 |
| GEE Derek | 3 | 4 |
| AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto | 2 | 0 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 1 | 19 |
1 | Hayneplane | 34 |
2 | Abbulf | 26 |
3 | Del1962 | 25 |
4 | EvansIsTheBest | 13 |
5 | NBFC1962 | 12 |
6 | Kazistuta | 11 |
7 | BicycleBoy | 8 |
7 | BluesInTheBottle | 8 |
9 | AmisVelo | 7 |
9 | DevilsElbow | 7 |
9 | SamuCuenca | 7 |
9 | Triley36 | 7 |
13 | DJW | 6 |
13 | Ingsve | 6 |
13 | Laarsland | 6 |
13 | Madrazo | 6 |
13 | SlowClimber | 6 |
13 | Titan31 | 6 |
19 | Josedin | 5 |
19 | LosBrolin | 5 |
19 | Nevs | 5 |
19 | Peixotini | 5 |
23 | DJSprtsch | 4 |
24 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1 |
24 | Bminchow | 1 |
24 | HiHope | 1 |
24 | JumboVismaFan | 1 |
24 | Leadbelly | 1 |
24 | QueenStagiaire | 1 |
24 | Sam6 | 1 |
24 | Search | 1 |
Standings
Del Toro teams on the ascent
1 | Bminchow | 299 | (-) |
2 | DJW | 297 | (-) |
3 | Ingsve | 270 | (-) |
4 | Abbulf | 239 | (+2) |
5 | Del1962 | 237 | (+2) |
6 | Sam6 | 229 | (-2) |
7 | Armchair_Cyclist | 225 | (-2) |
8 | Hayneplane | 215 | (+3) |
9 | Nevs | 198 | (-1) |
10 | Madrazo | 190 | (-) |
Arensman and Yates A (unpicked) lost a few seconds, and a few places at the end, so some GC top 12 movement.
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 48 | 3 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 31 | 19 |
| GEE Derek | 26 | 4 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 16 | 8 |
| GODON Dorian | 10 | 1 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | -5 | 5 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | -31 | 7 |
Gee and Bernal were the main beneficiaries of that split in the group: HP has both of them as well as Del Toro
1 | Hayneplane | 102 |
2 | Abbulf | 85 |
3 | DJSprtsch | 77 |
4 | SlowClimber | 52 |
5 | EvansIsTheBest | 47 |
5 | HiHope | 47 |
7 | Del1962 | 44 |
8 | Sam6 | 42 |
9 | Laarsland | 40 |
10 | Ingsve | 38 |
11 | Kazistuta | 37 |
12 | DJW | 36 |
12 | JumboVismaFan | 36 |
12 | Madrazo | 36 |
15 | Search | 35 |
16 | BicycleBoy | 31 |
16 | BluesInTheBottle | 31 |
16 | Bminchow | 31 |
19 | Armchair_Cyclist | 26 |
20 | DevilsElbow | 23 |
21 | NBFC1962 | 18 |
22 | Triley36 | 13 |
23 | QueenStagiaire | 12 |
24 | SamuCuenca | 9 |
25 | AmisVelo | 7 |
26 | Josedin | 5 |
26 | Nevs | 5 |
26 | Titan31 | 5 |
29 | RedheadDane | 2 |
30 | Vladimir | 1 |
31 | Hfgon1 | 0 |
31 | Onizuka999 | 0 |
33 | Leadbelly | -3 |
34 | YellowKnight | -4 |
35 | LosBrolin | -10 |
36 | Qazaqstan | -15 |
37 | Rufs | -27 |
38 | Peixotini | -31 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 52 | |
| Default | 41 |
Standings
1 | Del1962 | 1651 | (-) |
2 | Ingsve | 1590 | (-) |
3 | DJW | 1557 | (-) |
4 | Hayneplane | 1530 | (+2) |
5 | Madrazo | 1509 | (-1) |
6 | Abbulf | 1467 | (+2) |
7 | LosBrolin | 1447 | (-2) |
8 | Sam6 | 1427 | (-1) |
9 | DJSprtsch | 1332 | (+1) |
10 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1318 | (-1) |
11 | SlowClimber | 1261 | (-) |
12 | HiHope | 1178 | (+2) |
13 | Bminchow | 1176 | (-) |
14 | Kazistuta | 1143 | (+1) |
15 | Peixotini | 1139 | (-3) |
16 | BluesInTheBottle | 1110 | (+1) |
17 | QueenStagiaire | 1100 | (-1) |
18 | JumboVismaFan | 1077 | (+3) |
19 | Search | 1073 | (+4) |
20 | Nevs | 1066 | (-2) |
21 | Leadbelly | 1055 | (-2) |
22 | Titan31 | 1046 | (-1) |
23 | Qazaqstan | 1029 | (-3) |
24 | AmisVelo | 1011 | (-) |
25 | Hfgon1 | 987 | (-) |
26 | EvansIsTheBest | 983 | (+1) |
27 | Vladimir | 976 | (-1) |
28 | Laarsland | 947 | (-) |
29 | BicycleBoy | 897 | (-) |
30 | DevilsElbow | 872 | (-) |
31 | NBFC1962 | 865 | (-) |
32 | Triley36 | 835 | (-) |
33 | Rufs | 791 | (-) |
34 | YellowKnight | 636 | (-) |
35 | Josedin | 616 | (-) |
36 | SamuCuenca | 531 | (-) |
37 | RedheadDane | 488 | (-) |
38 | Onizuka999 | 403 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1512 | ||
| Default | 745 |
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 14
What's Slovenian for 'chaos?
Stage points
Not just the sprinters that were expected.
No-one doubles up on top ten riders today.
Standings
Bminchow's lead is rather bigger than the mere two points of this morning.
Overall points
Not the GC neutral day that was expected.
So which teams were on the swings, and which on the roundabouts? (some are on both: Los Brolin gained 211 from three riders, lost 210 on account of two others)
Standings
With those that were on the podium dropping back (they both have Tiberi), Del now finds his lead more than 100 points. Fellow Toreador Abbulf moves up to second, and Sam6 also takes a podium spot.
The commentators are hyping tomorrow as a GC day: I'm not so sure.
What's Slovenian for 'chaos?
Stage points
Not just the sprinters that were expected.
| ASGREEN Kasper | 70 | 0 |
| GROVES Kaden | 40 | 5 |
| KOOIJ Olav | 25 | 0 |
| AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto | 15 | 0 |
| OLDANI Stefano | 10 | 1 |
| MAESTRI Mirco | 7 | 0 |
| GEE Derek | 5 | 4 |
| PIDCOCK Thomas | 3 | 0 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 2 | 5 |
| HONORE Mikkel Frølich | 1 | 0 |
No-one doubles up on top ten riders today.
1 | Bminchow | 40 |
1 | Josedin | 40 |
1 | Nevs | 40 |
1 | Rufs | 40 |
1 | SamuCuenca | 40 |
6 | RedheadDane | 10 |
7 | BicycleBoy | 5 |
7 | BluesInTheBottle | 5 |
7 | DJSprtsch | 5 |
7 | Hayneplane | 5 |
11 | Armchair_Cyclist | 2 |
11 | Leadbelly | 2 |
11 | Peixotini | 2 |
11 | Sam6 | 2 |
11 | Vladimir | 2 |
Bminchow's lead is rather bigger than the mere two points of this morning.
1 | Bminchow | 339 | (-) |
2 | DJW | 297 | (-) |
3 | Ingsve | 270 | (-) |
4 | Abbulf | 239 | (-) |
5 | Nevs | 238 | (+4) |
6 | Del1962 | 237 | (-1) |
7 | Sam6 | 231 | (-1) |
8 | Rufs | 228 | (+3) |
9 | Armchair_Cyclist | 227 | (-2) |
10 | Hayneplane | 220 | (-2) |
Overall points
Not the GC neutral day that was expected.
| YATES Simon | 110 | 23 |
| GEE Derek | 85 | 4 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 70 | 8 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 51 | 5 |
| GROVES Kaden | 43 | 5 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | 31 | 7 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 22 | 2 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 18 | 3 |
| OLDANI Stefano | 13 | 1 |
| POOLE Max | 12 | 4 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -60 | 22 |
| CICCONE Giulio | -140 | 1 |
| TIBERI Antonio | -150 | 15 |
So which teams were on the swings, and which on the roundabouts? (some are on both: Los Brolin gained 211 from three riders, lost 210 on account of two others)
1 | DJSprtsch | 207 |
2 | Leadbelly | 187 |
3 | DevilsElbow | 180 |
4 | Sam6 | 171 |
5 | Abbulf | 144 |
6 | HiHope | 120 |
6 | YellowKnight | 120 |
8 | Triley36 | 114 |
9 | Armchair_Cyclist | 101 |
10 | Bminchow | 93 |
11 | Qazaqstan | 77 |
12 | Del1962 | 65 |
13 | Search | 56 |
14 | Kazistuta | 53 |
15 | Hfgon1 | 50 |
15 | SamuCuenca | 50 |
17 | BicycleBoy | 47 |
17 | JumboVismaFan | 47 |
19 | QueenStagiaire | 45 |
20 | Peixotini | 42 |
21 | Rufs | 20 |
22 | Onizuka999 | 12 |
23 | Titan31 | 3 |
24 | LosBrolin | 1 |
25 | Vladimir | -3 |
26 | Laarsland | -32 |
27 | Hayneplane | -46 |
28 | AmisVelo | -60 |
29 | Madrazo | -78 |
30 | Ingsve | -98 |
31 | Josedin | -99 |
32 | DJW | -100 |
33 | BluesInTheBottle | -125 |
33 | RedheadDane | -125 |
35 | SlowClimber | -140 |
36 | NBFC1962 | -146 |
37 | EvansIsTheBest | -148 |
38 | Nevs | -167 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -30 | |
| Default | 110 |
Standings
With those that were on the podium dropping back (they both have Tiberi), Del now finds his lead more than 100 points. Fellow Toreador Abbulf moves up to second, and Sam6 also takes a podium spot.
1 | Del1962 | 1716 | (-) |
2 | Abbulf | 1611 | (+4) |
3 | Sam6 | 1598 | (+5) |
4 | DJSprtsch | 1539 | (+5) |
5 | Ingsve | 1492 | (-3) |
6 | Hayneplane | 1484 | (-2) |
7 | DJW | 1457 | (-4) |
8 | LosBrolin | 1448 | (-1) |
9 | Madrazo | 1431 | (-4) |
10 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1419 | (-) |
11 | HiHope | 1298 | (+1) |
12 | Bminchow | 1269 | (+1) |
13 | Leadbelly | 1242 | (+8) |
14 | Kazistuta | 1196 | (-) |
15 | Peixotini | 1181 | (-) |
16 | QueenStagiaire | 1145 | (+1) |
17 | Search | 1129 | (+2) |
18 | JumboVismaFan | 1124 | (-) |
19 | SlowClimber | 1121 | (-8) |
20 | Qazaqstan | 1106 | (+3) |
21 | DevilsElbow | 1052 | (+9) |
22 | Titan31 | 1049 | (-) |
23 | Hfgon1 | 1037 | (+2) |
24 | BluesInTheBottle | 985 | (-8) |
25 | Vladimir | 973 | (+2) |
26 | AmisVelo | 951 | (-2) |
27 | Triley36 | 949 | (+5) |
28 | BicycleBoy | 944 | (+1) |
29 | Laarsland | 915 | (-1) |
30 | Nevs | 899 | (-10) |
31 | EvansIsTheBest | 835 | (-5) |
32 | Rufs | 811 | (+1) |
33 | YellowKnight | 756 | (+1) |
34 | NBFC1962 | 719 | (-3) |
35 | SamuCuenca | 581 | (+1) |
36 | Josedin | 517 | (-1) |
37 | Onizuka999 | 415 | (+1) |
38 | RedheadDane | 363 | (-1) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1482 | ||
| Default | 855 |
The commentators are hyping tomorrow as a GC day: I'm not so sure.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 15
More interesting than many had suspected.
Stage points
Well, this part ended up being the predicted breakaway of little consequence.
But it had a rather Robin Hood effect, with some of the lower in the ranking teams coming up tops.
I have only been giving the top ten, but because the top ten scored a total of three points between them, and because it is going into a rest day, and to celebrate BicycleBoy coming off the bottom of this table for the first time in the two and a bit weeks so far, here are the standings for everyone
Overall points
The dropping of Roglic means plenty of points for those that had been not to far behind him on GC.
Turns out that spending 56% of the budget one one guy might not be so wise, with the six Roglic teams obviously being the bottom six in the daily points shuffle.
Standings
In the game, as in the race, it's all about whether the top can hold on, with the Del Toro teams now 1st, 2nd and 6th. However, just as UAE may not consider it a disaster if Del Toro were to lose the lead as it might mean that Ayuso takes over, these teams also have other riders that might gain from a change of pink jersey.
More interesting than many had suspected.
Stage points
Well, this part ended up being the predicted breakaway of little consequence.
| VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos | 70 | 0 |
| STORK Florian | 40 | 1 |
| SCARONI Christian | 25 | 1 |
| BARDET Romain | 15 | 1 |
| PRODHOMME Nicolas | 10 | 3 |
| ZANA Filippo | 7 | 2 |
| GAROFOLI Gianmarco | 5 | 0 |
| FIORELLI Filippo | 3 | 3 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 2 | 8 |
| POOLE Max | 1 | 4 |
1 | BicycleBoy | 40 |
2 | RedheadDane | 25 |
3 | QueenStagiaire | 15 |
3 | SamuCuenca | 15 |
5 | Qazaqstan | 13 |
6 | Laarsland | 10 |
7 | SlowClimber | 9 |
8 | Hfgon1 | 7 |
9 | Peixotini | 3 |
9 | YellowKnight | 3 |
11 | DevilsElbow | 2 |
11 | DJSprtsch | 2 |
11 | HiHope | 2 |
11 | LosBrolin | 2 |
11 | Sam6 | 2 |
16 | Abbulf | 1 |
16 | Onizuka999 | 1 |
16 | Titan31 | 1 |
1 | Bminchow | 339 | (-) |
2 | DJW | 297 | (-) |
3 | Ingsve | 270 | (-) |
4 | Abbulf | 240 | (-) |
5 | Nevs | 238 | (-) |
6 | Del1962 | 237 | (-) |
7 | Sam6 | 233 | (-) |
8 | Rufs | 228 | (-) |
9 | Armchair_Cyclist | 227 | (-) |
10 | Hayneplane | 220 | (-) |
11 | SamuCuenca | 210 | (-) |
12 | Madrazo | 190 | (-) |
13 | Peixotini | 182 | (-) |
14 | Vladimir | 179 | (-1) |
15 | QueenStagiaire | 177 | (+4) |
16 | AmisVelo | 175 | (-1) |
17 | Hfgon1 | 174 | (+1) |
17 | Search | 174 | (-1) |
19 | Josedin | 170 | (-2) |
20 | SlowClimber | 162 | (+1) |
21 | JumboVismaFan | 160 | (-1) |
22 | DJSprtsch | 153 | (-) |
23 | Leadbelly | 148 | (-) |
24 | HiHope | 145 | (-) |
25 | YellowKnight | 144 | (-) |
26 | Kazistuta | 139 | (-) |
27 | RedheadDane | 136 | (+5) |
28 | LosBrolin | 130 | (-1) |
29 | EvansIsTheBest | 126 | (-1) |
30 | Qazaqstan | 122 | (+4) |
31 | Titan31 | 121 | (-2) |
32 | BluesInTheBottle | 120 | (-3) |
33 | Onizuka999 | 119 | (-2) |
34 | DevilsElbow | 113 | (-2) |
34 | Laarsland | 113 | (+1) |
36 | NBFC1962 | 93 | (-) |
37 | BicycleBoy | 86 | (+1) |
38 | Triley36 | 79 | (-1) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 164 | ||
| Default | 171 |
The dropping of Roglic means plenty of points for those that had been not to far behind him on GC.
| STORK Florian | 50 | 1 |
| SCARONI Christian | 35 | 1 |
| BARDET Romain | 27 | 1 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 27 | 8 |
| GEE Derek | 25 | 4 |
| TIBERI Antonio | 25 | 15 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | 15 | 7 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 15 | 19 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 15 | 3 |
| PRODHOMME Nicolas | 14 | 3 |
| PIGANZOLI Davide | 12 | 5 |
| POELS Wout | 11 | 2 |
| ZANA Filippo | 10 | 2 |
| VENDRAME Andrea | -10 | 3 |
| HARPER Chris | -14 | 13 |
| CICCONE Giulio | -50 | 1 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | -105 | 6 |
Turns out that spending 56% of the budget one one guy might not be so wise, with the six Roglic teams obviously being the bottom six in the daily points shuffle.
1 | BicycleBoy | 102 |
2 | SlowClimber | 89 |
3 | Hayneplane | 85 |
4 | QueenStagiaire | 76 |
5 | DJSprtsch | 67 |
6 | Titan31 | 60 |
7 | Qazaqstan | 55 |
8 | LosBrolin | 53 |
9 | Laarsland | 44 |
10 | Peixotini | 42 |
11 | Sam6 | 41 |
12 | Nevs | 37 |
13 | BluesInTheBottle | 36 |
14 | Madrazo | 34 |
15 | Josedin | 33 |
16 | Abbulf | 31 |
17 | Del1962 | 28 |
17 | HiHope | 28 |
17 | Ingsve | 28 |
20 | DJW | 26 |
21 | Leadbelly | 22 |
22 | JumboVismaFan | 21 |
23 | Hfgon1 | 20 |
24 | Armchair_Cyclist | 14 |
25 | Bminchow | 13 |
25 | YellowKnight | 13 |
27 | Vladimir | 11 |
28 | Rufs | 5 |
28 | Search | 5 |
30 | Kazistuta | 4 |
31 | Onizuka999 | 3 |
32 | RedheadDane | -2 |
33 | EvansIsTheBest | -71 |
34 | NBFC1962 | -78 |
34 | SamuCuenca | -78 |
36 | DevilsElbow | -92 |
37 | AmisVelo | -119 |
38 | Triley36 | -121 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 53 | |
| Default | 5 |
Standings
In the game, as in the race, it's all about whether the top can hold on, with the Del Toro teams now 1st, 2nd and 6th. However, just as UAE may not consider it a disaster if Del Toro were to lose the lead as it might mean that Ayuso takes over, these teams also have other riders that might gain from a change of pink jersey.
1 | Del1962 | 1744 | (-) |
2 | Abbulf | 1642 | (-) |
3 | Sam6 | 1639 | (-) |
4 | DJSprtsch | 1606 | (-) |
5 | Hayneplane | 1569 | (+1) |
6 | Ingsve | 1520 | (-1) |
7 | LosBrolin | 1501 | (+1) |
8 | DJW | 1483 | (-1) |
9 | Madrazo | 1465 | (-) |
10 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1433 | (-) |
11 | HiHope | 1326 | (-) |
12 | Bminchow | 1282 | (-) |
13 | Leadbelly | 1264 | (-) |
14 | Peixotini | 1223 | (+1) |
15 | QueenStagiaire | 1221 | (+1) |
16 | SlowClimber | 1210 | (+3) |
17 | Kazistuta | 1200 | (-3) |
18 | Qazaqstan | 1161 | (+2) |
19 | JumboVismaFan | 1145 | (-1) |
20 | Search | 1134 | (-3) |
21 | Titan31 | 1109 | (+1) |
22 | Hfgon1 | 1057 | (+1) |
23 | BicycleBoy | 1046 | (+5) |
24 | BluesInTheBottle | 1021 | (-) |
25 | Vladimir | 984 | (-) |
26 | DevilsElbow | 960 | (-5) |
27 | Laarsland | 959 | (+2) |
28 | Nevs | 936 | (+2) |
29 | AmisVelo | 832 | (-3) |
30 | Triley36 | 828 | (-3) |
31 | Rufs | 816 | (+1) |
32 | YellowKnight | 769 | (+1) |
33 | EvansIsTheBest | 764 | (-2) |
34 | NBFC1962 | 641 | (-) |
35 | Josedin | 550 | (+1) |
36 | SamuCuenca | 503 | (-1) |
37 | Onizuka999 | 418 | (-) |
38 | RedheadDane | 361 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1535 | ||
| Default | 860 |
- May 5, 2010
- 49,648
- 28,041
- 28,180
Me, when building my team:
No point in including Pellizzari; he'll be riding for Roglic...
No point in including Pellizzari; he'll be riding for Roglic...
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 16
I had intended, but didn't get around to, doing an analysis yesterday, like the previous rest day, of which riders were contributing how many points to our scores. It would all be rather out of date by this evening if I had.
Stage points
RhD was lamenting not having picked Pellizzari, but can't really complain, having the stage winner as a unique pick
Standings
There again, if she had picked Pellizzari as well, RhD would be in the top ten.
The top three is still the same as it was when I did that analysis after stage 9
Overall pts
That's the second most popular pick taking a huge drop in points, hurting more than half the teams, and the most expensive selected rider DNFing:
Standings
The Del Toro team that has Ayuso falls out of the lead, the other two (without Ayuso) move into the top two slots.
And now that Del Toro looks vulnerable, it might be worth noting that there are four teams that have both Yates and Carapaz.
I had intended, but didn't get around to, doing an analysis yesterday, like the previous rest day, of which riders were contributing how many points to our scores. It would all be rather out of date by this evening if I had.
Stage points
| SCARONI Christian | 70 | 1 |
| FORTUNATO Lorenzo | 40 | 0 |
| PELLIZZARI Giulio | 25 | 0 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 15 | 5 |
| GEE Derek | 10 | 4 |
| CEPEDA HERNANDEZ Jefferson Alveiro | 7 | 0 |
| STORER Michael | 5 | 2 |
| YATES Simon | 3 | 23 |
| LEEMREIZE Gijs | 2 | 0 |
| VOISARD Yannis | 1 | 0 |
RhD was lamenting not having picked Pellizzari, but can't really complain, having the stage winner as a unique pick
1 | RedheadDane | 70 |
2 | Armchair_Cyclist | 18 |
2 | Leadbelly | 18 |
2 | Peixotini | 18 |
2 | Sam6 | 18 |
6 | Vladimir | 15 |
7 | BicycleBoy | 13 |
7 | DJSprtsch | 13 |
9 | BluesInTheBottle | 10 |
9 | Hayneplane | 10 |
11 | YellowKnight | 8 |
12 | Josedin | 5 |
13 | the other sixteen Yates teams | 3 |
Standings
There again, if she had picked Pellizzari as well, RhD would be in the top ten.
1 | Bminchow | 342 | (-) |
2 | DJW | 300 | (-) |
3 | Ingsve | 273 | (-) |
4 | Sam6 | 251 | (+3) |
5 | Armchair_Cyclist | 245 | (+4) |
6 | Abbulf | 243 | (-2) |
7 | Del1962 | 240 | (-1) |
8 | Nevs | 238 | (-3) |
9 | Hayneplane | 230 | (+1) |
10 | Rufs | 228 | (-2) |
The top three is still the same as it was when I did that analysis after stage 9
Overall pts
| SCARONI Christian | 106 | 1 |
| STORER Michael | 83 | 2 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 66 | 5 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 50 | 19 |
| GEE Derek | 35 | 4 |
| POOLE Max | 26 | 4 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 25 | 8 |
| BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello | 22 | 2 |
| PIGANZOLI Davide | 22 | 5 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 16 | 2 |
| FRETIN Milan | -15 | 1 |
| MAGNIER Paul | -15 | 3 |
| MARTINELLI Alessio | -15 | 3 |
| TARLING Joshua | -15 | 2 |
| CONCI Nicola | -19 | 3 |
| TIBERI Antonio | -25 | 15 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | -60 | 7 |
| ROGLIC Primoz | -135 | 6 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -252 | 22 |
That's the second most popular pick taking a huge drop in points, hurting more than half the teams, and the most expensive selected rider DNFing:
1 | RedheadDane | 132 |
2 | Abbulf | 87 |
3 | Hayneplane | 69 |
3 | YellowKnight | 69 |
5 | Josedin | 58 |
6 | BicycleBoy | 25 |
6 | Laarsland | 25 |
8 | Leadbelly | 9 |
9 | Onizuka999 | 8 |
10 | Titan31 | -6 |
11 | Peixotini | -7 |
12 | EvansIsTheBest | -95 |
13 | Sam6 | -99 |
14 | DevilsElbow | -117 |
15 | Triley36 | -123 |
16 | Armchair_Cyclist | -133 |
17 | SamuCuenca | -145 |
18 | Vladimir | -150 |
19 | DJSprtsch | -154 |
20 | NBFC1962 | -166 |
21 | JumboVismaFan | -177 |
22 | SlowClimber | -183 |
23 | HiHope | -184 |
24 | Bminchow | -199 |
25 | Kazistuta | -202 |
26 | Madrazo | -209 |
27 | Search | -217 |
28 | Hfgon1 | -230 |
29 | Ingsve | -236 |
30 | QueenStagiaire | -239 |
31 | DJW | -240 |
32 | Del1962 | -246 |
32 | Qazaqstan | -246 |
34 | BluesInTheBottle | -252 |
35 | Nevs | -255 |
36 | Rufs | -321 |
37 | LosBrolin | -334 |
38 | AmisVelo | -388 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -200 | |
| Default | 139 |
Standings
The Del Toro team that has Ayuso falls out of the lead, the other two (without Ayuso) move into the top two slots.
1 | Abbulf | 1729 | (+1) |
2 | Hayneplane | 1638 | (+3) |
3 | Sam6 | 1540 | (-) |
4 | Del1962 | 1498 | (-3) |
5 | DJSprtsch | 1452 | (-1) |
6 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1300 | (+4) |
7 | Ingsve | 1284 | (-1) |
8 | Leadbelly | 1273 | (+5) |
9 | Madrazo | 1256 | (-) |
10 | DJW | 1243 | (-2) |
11 | Peixotini | 1216 | (+3) |
12 | LosBrolin | 1167 | (-5) |
13 | HiHope | 1142 | (-2) |
14 | Titan31 | 1103 | (+7) |
15 | Bminchow | 1083 | (-3) |
16 | BicycleBoy | 1071 | (+7) |
17 | SlowClimber | 1027 | (-1) |
18 | Kazistuta | 998 | (-1) |
19 | Laarsland | 984 | (+8) |
20 | QueenStagiaire | 982 | (-5) |
21 | JumboVismaFan | 968 | (-2) |
22 | Search | 917 | (-2) |
23 | Qazaqstan | 915 | (-5) |
24 | DevilsElbow | 843 | (+2) |
25 | YellowKnight | 838 | (+7) |
26 | Vladimir | 834 | (-1) |
27 | Hfgon1 | 827 | (-5) |
28 | BluesInTheBottle | 769 | (-4) |
29 | Triley36 | 705 | (+1) |
30 | Nevs | 681 | (-2) |
31 | EvansIsTheBest | 669 | (+2) |
32 | Josedin | 608 | (+3) |
33 | Rufs | 495 | (-2) |
34 | RedheadDane | 493 | (+4) |
35 | NBFC1962 | 475 | (-1) |
36 | AmisVelo | 444 | (-7) |
37 | Onizuka999 | 426 | (-) |
38 | SamuCuenca | 358 | (-2) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1335 | ||
| Default | 999 |
And now that Del Toro looks vulnerable, it might be worth noting that there are four teams that have both Yates and Carapaz.
- Jul 4, 2023
- 350
- 487
- 2,380
It looks like an exciting finish! Thanks for doing all this again
I'm curious how big a swing is needed for me to overtake the top 2? If, for example, Del Toro were to drop to third and Yates and Carapaz were to be first and second, would that put me in the lead? Or do I need some stage points too? I notice Abbulf has Yates too which would reduce my potential gain from the swing
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Points for the top 5 on GC are:
500
375
315
265
240
so if Yates were to overtake Del Toro, that is a 250 point swing for you compared to Hayneplane, but you would gain nothing on Abbulf. If Del Toro were to drop farther, behind Carapaz, then your riders in the top three will have increased their points by 185, and Abbulf's will fall by 125. Of course, such changes won't happen in isolation: pink jersey points (18 points a day) and whatever stage results bring about such changes will factor in too.
To check all the permutations, your best bet is to download the spreadsheet and then swap names around on the GC tab (wayyyy over to the right), then see what effect that has on the Results tab.
- Jul 4, 2023
- 350
- 487
- 2,380
Thanks - although I think you got the swing slightly wrong in the Yates overtaking Del Toro scenario, cause Abbulf would have no change and I would gain 125 points. But it does sound like I need Carapaz to overtake Del Toro, and if he does, I would have a decent chance. But yeah, a lot can happen, such as Bernal falling down the leaderboard or even Ayuso DNF, would still cost me a decent chunk of points.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
D'oh, you're right, yes. But have fun with the spreadsheet and let us know of your discoveries
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 17
I hope the gravediggers hereabouts include a rope and a bell.
Stage pts
The three (probably very relieved) Del Toro teams also get points from Yates (Abbulf and Del) Gee (HP) and Poole (Abbulf again)
Standings
The top three finally changes
Other than the unpicked Pedersen, Del Toro is the top point scorer for stage points, so no surprise that his teams are near the top here.
Overall pts
Nearly everyone changed their GC position, some quite dramatically
More bad news than good today, with three of the four most popular players in the game taking significant losses
Standing
There were only 9 teams with a net positive score, and 5 of them were already in the top six.
I hope the gravediggers hereabouts include a rope and a bell.
Stage pts
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 70 | 3 |
| BARDET Romain | 40 | 1 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 25 | 5 |
| YATES Simon | 15 | 23 |
| PELLIZZARI Giulio | 10 | 0 |
| GEE Derek | 7 | 4 |
| CARUSO Damiano | 5 | 8 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 3 | 2 |
| POOLE Max | 2 | 4 |
| EULALIO Afonso | 1 | 0 |
The three (probably very relieved) Del Toro teams also get points from Yates (Abbulf and Del) Gee (HP) and Poole (Abbulf again)
1 | Abbulf | 87 |
2 | Del1962 | 85 |
3 | Hayneplane | 77 |
4 | Sam6 | 45 |
5 | Armchair_Cyclist | 40 |
5 | Leadbelly | 40 |
5 | Peixotini | 40 |
5 | SamuCuenca | 40 |
9 | DJSprtsch | 27 |
10 | Vladimir | 25 |
11 | BicycleBoy | 22 |
12 | DevilsElbow | 20 |
12 | HiHope | 20 |
12 | LosBrolin | 20 |
15 | Madrazo | 18 |
16 | Titan31 | 17 |
17 | Bminchow | 15 |
17 | DJW | 15 |
17 | Hfgon1 | 15 |
17 | Ingsve | 15 |
17 | JumboVismaFan | 15 |
17 | Kazistuta | 15 |
17 | Laarsland | 15 |
17 | Search | 15 |
17 | Triley36 | 15 |
17 | YellowKnight | 15 |
27 | Qazaqstan | 10 |
28 | BluesInTheBottle | 7 |
29 | QueenStagiaire | 5 |
29 | SlowClimber | 5 |
31 | Onizuka999 | 2 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 20 | |
| Default | 25 |
Standings
The top three finally changes
Other than the unpicked Pedersen, Del Toro is the top point scorer for stage points, so no surprise that his teams are near the top here.
1 | Bminchow | 357 | (-) |
2 | Abbulf | 330 | (+4) |
3 | Del1962 | 325 | (+4) |
4 | DJW | 315 | (-2) |
5 | Hayneplane | 307 | (+4) |
6 | Sam6 | 296 | (-2) |
7 | Ingsve | 288 | (-4) |
8 | Armchair_Cyclist | 285 | (-3) |
9 | SamuCuenca | 250 | (+2) |
10 | Peixotini | 240 | (+3) |
Overall pts
Nearly everyone changed their GC position, some quite dramatically
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 92 | 3 |
| CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio | 88 | 5 |
| BARDET Romain | 49 | 1 |
| RUBIO REYES Einer Augusto | 48 | 2 |
| POOLE Max | 18 | 4 |
| PRODHOMME Nicolas | 12 | 3 |
| VENDRAME Andrea | 11 | 3 |
| BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello | -15 | 2 |
| PLAPP Lucas | -15 | 2 |
| PIGANZOLI Davide | -16 | 5 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -26 | 22 |
| ARENSMAN Thymen | -32 | 7 |
| YATES Simon | -45 | 23 |
| STORER Michael | -55 | 2 |
| TIBERI Antonio | -75 | 15 |
1 | Abbulf | 81 |
2 | Vladimir | 48 |
3 | SamuCuenca | 44 |
4 | Qazaqstan | 24 |
5 | Sam6 | 19 |
6 | Armchair_Cyclist | 17 |
6 | Hayneplane | 17 |
8 | Del1962 | 11 |
9 | Onizuka999 | 4 |
10 | Leadbelly | -1 |
11 | RedheadDane | -26 |
12 | AmisVelo | -27 |
13 | DevilsElbow | -29 |
14 | QueenStagiaire | -40 |
15 | Triley36 | -42 |
16 | Rufs | -52 |
17 | Search | -60 |
18 | Kazistuta | -62 |
19 | HiHope | -64 |
20 | DJSprtsch | -67 |
20 | Peixotini | -67 |
22 | EvansIsTheBest | -70 |
23 | NBFC1962 | -80 |
24 | JumboVismaFan | -86 |
25 | Bminchow | -88 |
26 | BluesInTheBottle | -92 |
27 | Hfgon1 | -95 |
27 | YellowKnight | -95 |
29 | Laarsland | -97 |
30 | Madrazo | -99 |
31 | BicycleBoy | -101 |
32 | SlowClimber | -105 |
33 | Nevs | -119 |
34 | Josedin | -132 |
35 | Titan31 | -134 |
36 | Ingsve | -141 |
37 | DJW | -147 |
38 | LosBrolin | -171 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -142 | |
| Default | 5 |
Standing
There were only 9 teams with a net positive score, and 5 of them were already in the top six.
1 | Abbulf | 1810 |
2 | Hayneplane | 1655 |
3 | Sam6 | 1559 |
4 | Del1962 | 1509 |
5 | DJSprtsch | 1385 |
6 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1317 |
7 | Leadbelly | 1272 |
8 | Madrazo | 1157 |
9 | Peixotini | 1149 |
10 | Ingsve | 1143 |
11 | DJW | 1096 |
12 | HiHope | 1078 |
13 | LosBrolin | 996 |
14 | Bminchow | 995 |
15 | BicycleBoy | 970 |
16 | Titan31 | 969 |
17 | QueenStagiaire | 942 |
18 | Qazaqstan | 939 |
19 | Kazistuta | 936 |
20 | SlowClimber | 922 |
21 | Laarsland | 887 |
22 | JumboVismaFan | 882 |
22 | Vladimir | 882 |
24 | Search | 857 |
25 | DevilsElbow | 814 |
26 | YellowKnight | 743 |
27 | Hfgon1 | 732 |
28 | BluesInTheBottle | 677 |
29 | Triley36 | 663 |
30 | EvansIsTheBest | 599 |
31 | Nevs | 562 |
32 | Josedin | 476 |
33 | RedheadDane | 467 |
34 | Rufs | 443 |
35 | Onizuka999 | 430 |
36 | AmisVelo | 417 |
37 | SamuCuenca | 402 |
38 | NBFC1962 | 395 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1193 | |
| Default | 1004 |
- Dec 12, 2010
- 1,138
- 897
- 12,680
Well no Roglic means this will easily be my worst performance in one of the GT games unless there's still time for Pietrobon to mount a late GC bid. Only 4h12min to make up before the end of the week.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,296
- 10,079
- 28,180
Stage 18
A bit of a day off
Stage points
Breakaway stages are rather random for points in this category:
Only six scorers:
Standings
Poor Samu Cuenca is one of only 6 scorers, but still drops a place as one of the 8 teams that DJSprtsch overtakes.
Overall pts
It might be that a bee has made more difference to today's points redistribution than 162 riders did collectively.
That unique pick of Denz (excellent value at a cost of 79) was wiped out for DJS by Ayuso, so positive scores are very scarce, and very low.
Standings
But among those few teams to make (a very small) gain on the day were those that were already the top two.
Only one manager opted to spend big twice, with both Roglic and Ayuso in his team. It was a tactic that had him in the lead for a couple of stages on week 1, but he has now reached the very bottom.
A bit of a day off
Stage points
Breakaway stages are rather random for points in this category:
| DENZ Nico | 70 | 1 |
| MAESTRI Mirco | 40 | 0 |
| PLANCKAERT Edward | 25 | 0 |
| MAGLI Filippo | 15 | 0 |
| EDMONDSON Alexander | 10 | 3 |
| DE BONDT Dries | 7 | 0 |
| HOOLE Daan | 5 | 0 |
| DE PRETTO Davide | 3 | 0 |
| CONCI Nicola | 2 | 3 |
| WARBASSE Larry | 1 | 0 |
1 | DJSprtsch | 72 |
2 | AmisVelo | 10 |
2 | BicycleBoy | 10 |
2 | SamuCuenca | 10 |
5 | Leadbelly | 2 |
5 | NBFC1962 | 2 |
Poor Samu Cuenca is one of only 6 scorers, but still drops a place as one of the 8 teams that DJSprtsch overtakes.
1 | Bminchow | 357 | (-) |
2 | Abbulf | 330 | (-) |
3 | Del1962 | 325 | (-) |
4 | DJW | 315 | (-) |
5 | Hayneplane | 307 | (-) |
6 | Sam6 | 296 | (-) |
7 | Ingsve | 288 | (-) |
8 | Armchair_Cyclist | 285 | (-) |
9 | DJSprtsch | 265 | (+8) |
10 | SamuCuenca | 260 | (-1) |
Overall pts
It might be that a bee has made more difference to today's points redistribution than 162 riders did collectively.
| DENZ Nico | 70 | 1 |
| DEL TORO ROMERO Isaac | 14 | 3 |
| VENDRAME Andrea | 14 | 3 |
| EDMONDSON Alexander | 10 | 3 |
| CONCI Nicola | 6 | 3 |
| SCARONI Christian | 6 | 1 |
| TONELLI Alessandro | -5 | 1 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -77 | 22 |
That unique pick of Denz (excellent value at a cost of 79) was wiped out for DJS by Ayuso, so positive scores are very scarce, and very low.
1 | Laarsland | 14 |
2 | Leadbelly | 8 |
3 | Hayneplane | 7 |
3 | SamuCuenca | 7 |
5 | Abbulf | 6 |
5 | BicycleBoy | 6 |
5 | RedheadDane | 6 |
8 | DevilsElbow | 1 |
9 | NBFC1962 | 0 |
9 | Onizuka999 | 0 |
9 | Titan31 | 0 |
12 | DJSprtsch | -1 |
12 | Josedin | -1 |
14 | Peixotini | -4 |
15 | YellowKnight | -6 |
16 | EvansIsTheBest | -8 |
16 | Triley36 | -8 |
18 | Search | -63 |
19 | Rufs | -68 |
20 | Del1962 | -69 |
21 | AmisVelo | -71 |
22 | JumboVismaFan | -76 |
22 | Vladimir | -76 |
24 | Armchair_Cyclist | -77 |
24 | BluesInTheBottle | -77 |
24 | Hfgon1 | -77 |
24 | HiHope | -77 |
24 | LosBrolin | -77 |
24 | SlowClimber | -77 |
30 | Bminchow | -78 |
30 | Nevs | -78 |
32 | QueenStagiaire | -79 |
33 | DJW | -81 |
33 | Kazistuta | -81 |
33 | Madrazo | -81 |
33 | Qazaqstan | -81 |
33 | Sam6 | -81 |
38 | Ingsve | -84 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -81 | |
| Default | 0 |
Standings
But among those few teams to make (a very small) gain on the day were those that were already the top two.
1 | Abbulf | 1816 | (-) |
2 | Hayneplane | 1662 | (-) |
3 | Sam6 | 1478 | (-) |
4 | Del1962 | 1440 | (-) |
5 | DJSprtsch | 1384 | (-) |
6 | Leadbelly | 1280 | (+1) |
7 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1240 | (-1) |
8 | Peixotini | 1145 | (+1) |
9 | Madrazo | 1076 | (-1) |
10 | Ingsve | 1059 | (-) |
11 | DJW | 1015 | (-) |
12 | HiHope | 1001 | (-) |
13 | BicycleBoy | 976 | (+2) |
14 | Titan31 | 969 | (+2) |
15 | LosBrolin | 919 | (-2) |
16 | Bminchow | 917 | (-2) |
17 | Laarsland | 901 | (+4) |
18 | QueenStagiaire | 863 | (-1) |
19 | Qazaqstan | 858 | (-1) |
20 | Kazistuta | 855 | (-1) |
21 | SlowClimber | 845 | (-1) |
22 | DevilsElbow | 815 | (+3) |
23 | JumboVismaFan | 806 | (-1) |
23 | Vladimir | 806 | (-1) |
25 | Search | 794 | (-1) |
26 | YellowKnight | 737 | (-) |
27 | Hfgon1 | 655 | (-) |
27 | Triley36 | 655 | (+2) |
29 | BluesInTheBottle | 600 | (-1) |
30 | EvansIsTheBest | 591 | (-) |
31 | Nevs | 484 | (-) |
32 | Josedin | 475 | (-) |
33 | RedheadDane | 473 | (-) |
34 | Onizuka999 | 430 | (+1) |
35 | SamuCuenca | 409 | (+2) |
36 | NBFC1962 | 395 | (+2) |
37 | Rufs | 375 | (-3) |
38 | AmisVelo | 346 | (-2) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1112 | ||
| Default | 1004 |
Only one manager opted to spend big twice, with both Roglic and Ayuso in his team. It was a tactic that had him in the lead for a couple of stages on week 1, but he has now reached the very bottom.
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