2025 Tour de France CQ Manager game

Armchair Cyclist · Monday at 12:29 PM

The three non-Vingegaard teams that beat any that did have him were the near identical teams of Googolplex and Josedin in 23rd and 24th places (split by Thomas in 58th GC vs Le Berre 61st) and ZigZag in 26th.

Other riders scoring > 40% of cost

cost		stage	GC	Yellow	Pts + KoM	TOTAL	%age RoI	teams
182	MÜHLBERGER Gregor	0	82	0	0	82	45.1	2
114	EENKHOORN Pascal	35	22	0	0	57	50.0	0
35	BOIVIN Guillaume	0	20	0	0	20	57.1	0
49	CONSONNI Simone	0	20	0	0	20	40.8	7
35	DRIZNERS Jarrad	0	20	0	0	20	57.1	2
20	NABERMAN Tim	0	20	0	0	20	100.0	4
41	RICKAERT Jonas	0	20	0	0	20	48.8	0
30	VAN LERBERGHE Bert	0	20	0	0	20	66.7	1

Armchair Cyclist · Monday at 1:47 PM

Best possible

VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas

HEALY Ben

GALL Felix

ARENSMAN Thymen

PARET PEINTRE Valentin

NABERMAN Tim

VAN LERBERGHE Bert

EENKHOORN Pascal

cost 3991, points 2223, which means that DJW scored 87.9 %, exceptionally high, especially given that he only had 2 of these.

They would have scored 986 Green points, which could have been improved with
Best Green team
Surprisingly, without Vingegaard

MILAN Jonathan

HEALY Ben

GROVES Kaden

ARENSMAN Thymen

PARET PEINTRE Valentin

ABRAHAMSEN Jonas

BALLERINI Davide

EENKHOORN Pascal

1027 Green points for a cost of 3911, but only 6th place overall

Best possible without Vingegaard
The overall win was very much possible: this lot would have scored 2165 for a spend of 3971

LIPOWITZ Florian

HEALY Ben

GALL Felix

ARENSMAN Thymen

JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland

PARET PEINTRE Valentin

ABRAHAMSEN Jonas

NABERMAN Tim (or any of several 20 pointers costing 49 or less)

If the budget were stretched to enable selection of Pogacar
That would require a minimum budget of 5279. None of the cheapest seven did anything other than get their 20 points, and one of them DNFed, so the team with Pogacar would have got 1709. Whereas it would have been possible to get:

VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas

LIPOWITZ Florian

HEALY Ben

GALL Felix

ARENSMAN Thymen

JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland

VAN LERBERGHE Bert

NABERMAN Tim

for 2830.

I think the budget would need to be extended to about 8700 for Pogacar to be part of a best possible team.

Collective Ignorance
Onley and Vauquelin briefly threatened to embarrass us, but in the end the best team possible made up entirely of unselected riders would only have come 29th with 1093

ONLEY Oscar

VAUQUELIN Kévin

NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel

BARGUIL Warren

EENKHOORN Pascal

GARCIA PIERNA Raul

SCOTSON Callum

BOIVIN Guillaume

Impeccable picks

VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas

LIPOWITZ Florian

HEALY Ben

GALL Felix

ARENSMAN Thymen

JEGAT Jordan

PARET PEINTRE Valentin

MÜHLBERGER Gregor

EENKHOORN Pascal

SCOTSON Callum

VALGREN HUNDAHL Michael

BOIVIN Guillaume

NABERMAN Tim

Armchair Cyclist · Monday at 2:14 PM

Non finishers
Of the 24 riders that DNFed, 11 were selected for our game.

	cost	stage points won	teams
JEANNIERE Emilien	977	0	1
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	906	2	6
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	696	0	20
WAERENSKJOLD Søren	608	60	2
ZIMMERMANN Georg	452	0	1
DUNBAR Edward	351	25	4
CRAS Steff	335	0	9
BOL Cees	281	0	3
FEDOROV Yevgeniy	211	3	1
HAIG Jack	210	0	2
BARTHE Cyril	71	0	1

Only Los Brolin made the top ten despite the loss of Rodriguez, but the fate of Waerenskjold didn't stop Googolplex and Josedin in their domination of the non-Vingegaard contingent.

As usual, for the bad luck table I count the cost of non-finishers, minus the stage points they gained while still racing.

	non-finishers	net cost	position in game
SamuCuenca	3	2008	37
BluesInTheBottle	2	1602	33
Ingsve	2	1602	34
SlowClimber	2	1602	36
Bminchow	2	1602	40
Googolplex	2	1304	23
Josedin	2	1304	24
Shalgo	2	1116	16
DevilsElbow	2	1031	20
EvansIsTheBest	2	1031	22
AmisVelo	2	1031	31
Shakes	2	977	27
DJSprtsch	3	967	30
Vladimir	2	907	17
Peixotini	1	906	35
Armchair_Cyclist	2	787	15
LosBrolin	2	767	6
Nyssinator	1	696	11
NBFC1962	1	696	19
Leadbelly	1	696	25
Rufs	1	696	28
JumboVismaFan	1	696	29
Laarsland	1	696	32
BicycleBoy	1	696	38
Hfgon1	2	561	3
Del1962	1	351	5
Sam6	1	351	21
Qazaqstan	1	335	7
Hayneplane	1	335	14
Onizuka999	1	335	18
QueenStagiaire	1	281	8
DJW	0	0	1
Madrazo	0	0	2
Kazistuta	0	0	4
Titan31	0	0	9
YellowKnight	0	0	10
Search	0	0	12
Triley36	0	0	13
ZigZagWanderer	0	0	26
Nevs	0	0	39
RedheadDane	0	0	41
Collective_Wisdom	2	1031
Default	1	483
TeamPog	1	39

And that is about it for data I can usefully extract, I think.

By all means, investigate the spreadsheet for further delights.

Armchair Cyclist · Monday at 2:21 PM

3/4 of the Four Seasons
Nearly forgot this one: 28 players have done the first three of the 4 short men's games that I do each year. This is how they have fared so far

		Spring Classics	Giro	Tour	Vuelta	Total	change since post-Giro
1	DJW	1727	1315	1953		4995	(+5)
2	Madrazo	1614	1377	1895		4886	(+5)
3	Del1962	1473	1610	1645		4728	(+2)
4	Armchair_Cyclist	1649	1447	1445		4541	(-)
5	DevilsElbow	1960	1153	1400		4513	(-2)
6	DJSprtsch	1756	1608	1038		4402	(-5)
7	LosBrolin	1488	1232	1630		4350	(+3)
8	Hfgon1	1649	866	1827		4342	(+7)
9	Kazistuta	1424	1136	1750		4310	(+5)
10	Triley36	1586	993	1465		4044	(+2)
11	Ingsve	1789	1350	887		4026	(-9)
12	Laarsland	1729	1205	988		3922	(-4)
13	Leadbelly	1035	1527	1329		3891	(-)
14	EvansIsTheBest	1902	583	1350		3835	(+2)
15	Search	1281	1001	1467		3749	(+2)
16	Peixotini	1542	1331	747		3620	(-7)
17	Vladimir	1298	749	1431		3478	(+2)
18	QueenStagiaire	881	950	1583		3414	(+5)
19	SlowClimber	1825	825	734		3384	(-8)
20	Onizuka999	1110	505	1425		3040	(+5)
21	AmisVelo	1536	441	1036		3013	(-)
22	BluesintheBottle	1368	677	906		2951	(-2)
23	Bminchow	1094	1186	534		2814	(-5)
24	Rufs	1259	410	1129		2798	(-)
25	NBFC1962	986	374	1401		2761	(+1)
26	SamuCuenca	1492	468	660		2620	(-4)
27	Josedin	551	537	1340		2428	(+1)
28	RedheadDane	701	501	424		1626	(-1)

	Collective_Wisdom	2004	1427	1369		4800

Hoping they will all complete their seasons with La Vuelta.

Can I have a week off before the Emerging and Women's updates?

hfgon1 · Monday at 3:04 PM

Thanks for organizing and keeping us up to date every day.

Last year yellow, this year on the podium and in green. Seems like Le Tour suits me

Nevs · Monday at 7:57 PM

Thank you for this AC

So I finish as i started, with my arms raised in the air.
A grand Tour it was.

DJW · Monday at 8:48 PM

Very happy to have secured the Yellow Jersey to go with my Vuelta (2022?) title.

Thanks AC for running the game and Madrazo for a very close contest.

Looking forward to renewing the rivalry at the Vuelta for the 4 seasons title.

del1962 · Tuesday at 1:30 AM

Thanks AC for running the game, nice to get a top 5 finish

Samu Cuenca · Tuesday at 9:19 AM

Thank you to AC and congratulations to DJW and Hfgon.

I didn't expect to win, but being the only one to lose three riders at least gives me an excuse for not doing better.

Armchair Cyclist · Tuesday at 12:14 PM

Samu Cuenca said:
Thank you to AC and congratulations to DJW and Hfgon.

I didn't expect to win, but being the only one to lose three riders at least gives me an excuse for not doing better.

DJSprtsch also lost 3, but to about half the cost.

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