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Stage 2
More mountain sprint than MTF
Green points
We are rather more invested in today's results than yesterday's
Standings
Three of those that benefitted from yesterday's sprint also had Vingegaard: they are now the top two in the minor classification.
Red points
There will be gains and losses every stage, but not normally as major as this:
so our teams also have huge fluctuations (mainly for the better)
Standings
Some of us have been doing these games for about 10 years now: the rookie player is in second place, and after some below par recent games, Bminchow suggests that he remembers how to score well after all.
Tomorrow looks like a stage on which most point changes will be those on the stage, but with a lot of riders on same time as others, there will be some GC changes on countback.
More mountain sprint than MTF
Green points
We are rather more invested in today's results than yesterday's
| VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas | 70 pts | 26 teams |
| CICCONE Giulio | 40 | 1 |
| GAUDU David | 25 | 0 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 15 | 20 |
| ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves | 10 | 2 |
| GALL Felix | 7 | 2 |
| HINDLEY Jai | 5 | 13 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 3 | 4 |
| JORGENSON Matteo | 2 | 0 |
| PIDCOCK Thomas | 1 | 0 |
1 | Armchair_Cyclist | 90 | Vingegaard, Bernal and Hindley |
1 | Bminchow | 90 | |
1 | Del1962 | 90 | |
1 | Hayneplane | 90 | |
1 | Hfgon1 | 90 | |
1 | LosBrolin | 90 | |
1 | Madrazo | 90 | |
1 | MagliaNera | 90 | |
1 | Shakes | 90 | |
10 | BicycleBoy | 85 | Vingegaard & Bernal |
10 | Ingsve | 85 | |
10 | JumboVismaFan | 85 | |
10 | Kazistuta | 85 | |
10 | NBFC1962 | 85 | |
10 | QueenStagiaire | 85 | |
10 | Titan31 | 85 | |
10 | YellowKnight | 85 | |
18 | Triley36 | 80 | Vingegaard and Almeida |
19 | Onizuka999 | 77 | |
20 | DevilsElbow | 75 | |
20 | Rufs | 75 | |
22 | DJSprtsch | 73 | |
22 | EvansIsTheBest | 73 | |
24 | BluesInTheBottle | 70 | |
24 | DJW | 70 | |
24 | Vladimir | 70 | |
27 | Search | 40 | Ciccone |
28 | Leadbelly | 27 | |
29 | AmisVelo | 20 | |
30 | Laarsland | 18 | |
31 | Peixotini | 10 | |
32 | Nevs | 3 | |
33 | RedheadDane | 0 | |
33 | SamuCuenca | 0 | |
| Collective_Wisdom | 90 | ||
| Default | 0 |
Standings
Three of those that benefitted from yesterday's sprint also had Vingegaard: they are now the top two in the minor classification.
1 | Ingsve | 100 | Vingegaard, Bernal, Viviani |
2 | Triley36 | 95 | Vingegaard, Viviani |
3 | Vingegaard, Bernal, Hindley teams | 90 | |
12 | Kazistuta | 86 | Vingegaard, Bernal, Mihkels |
13 | Vingegaard and Bernal teams | 85 | |
19 | Onizuka999 | 77 | |
20 | DevilsElbow | 75 | |
20 | Rufs | 75 |
Red points
There will be gains and losses every stage, but not normally as major as this:
| VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas | 660 point difference since yesterday | 26 teams |
| CICCONE Giulio | 437 | 1 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 267 | 20 |
| HINDLEY Jai | 184 | 13 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | 138 | 4 |
| SOLER Marc | 120 | 3 |
| ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves | 107 | 2 |
| LECERF William Junior | 105 | 2 |
| PARET PEINTRE Valentin | 89 | 3 |
| KUSS Sepp | 81 | 8 |
| RICCITELLO Matthew | 63 | 10 |
| PELLIZZARI Giulio | 59 | 13 |
| VAN UDEN Casper | -55 | 7 |
| TURNER Ben | -75 | 1 |
| VAN DIJKE Tim | -81 | 1 |
| MIHKELS Madis | -89 | 1 |
| VIVIANI Elia | -184 | 3 |
| BOUWMAN Koen | -203 | 2 |
so our teams also have huge fluctuations (mainly for the better)
1 | MagliaNera | 1276 |
2 | Hfgon1 | 1263 |
3 | Bminchow | 1262 |
4 | Madrazo | 1241 |
5 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1225 |
6 | Del1962 | 1213 |
7 | Hayneplane | 1208 |
8 | YellowKnight | 1201 |
9 | BicycleBoy | 1185 |
10 | LosBrolin | 1168 |
11 | Shakes | 1119 |
12 | JumboVismaFan | 1067 |
13 | NBFC1962 | 1033 |
14 | Ingsve | 1006 |
15 | Titan31 | 968 |
16 | Kazistuta | 943 |
17 | QueenStagiaire | 939 |
18 | EvansIsTheBest | 911 |
19 | Vladimir | 876 |
20 | DJW | 825 |
21 | BluesInTheBottle | 808 |
22 | Onizuka999 | 805 |
23 | Rufs | 786 |
24 | DevilsElbow | 751 |
25 | AmisVelo | 742 |
26 | Leadbelly | 685 |
27 | DJSprtsch | 659 |
28 | Triley36 | 617 |
29 | Search | 581 |
30 | Laarsland | 535 |
31 | RedheadDane | 175 |
32 | Nevs | 168 |
33 | SamuCuenca | 35 |
34 | Peixotini | -40 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1275 | |
| Default | -321 |
Standings
Some of us have been doing these games for about 10 years now: the rookie player is in second place, and after some below par recent games, Bminchow suggests that he remembers how to score well after all.
1 | Bminchow | 1430 | (+11) |
2 | MagliaNera | 1425 | (+13) |
3 | Hfgon1 | 1412 | (+12) |
4 | Hayneplane | 1412 | (+4) |
5 | Madrazo | 1390 | (+10) |
6 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1374 | (+9) |
7 | Del1962 | 1362 | (+8) |
8 | Ingsve | 1334 | (-4) |
9 | YellowKnight | 1329 | (+20) |
10 | LosBrolin | 1317 | (+5) |
11 | BicycleBoy | 1313 | (+18) |
12 | Shakes | 1268 | (+3) |
13 | Kazistuta | 1216 | (-6) |
14 | JumboVismaFan | 1195 | (+15) |
15 | NBFC1962 | 1161 | (+14) |
16 | DevilsElbow | 1158 | (-14) |
17 | Titan31 | 1151 | (-7) |
18 | QueenStagiaire | 1142 | (-9) |
19 | Rufs | 1110 | (-13) |
20 | EvansIsTheBest | 1040 | (+8) |
21 | DJSprtsch | 1007 | (-18) |
22 | Vladimir | 1004 | (+7) |
23 | DJW | 992 | (-10) |
24 | BluesInTheBottle | 951 | (-2) |
25 | Triley36 | 945 | (-21) |
26 | Onizuka999 | 940 | (-1) |
27 | AmisVelo | 883 | (-4) |
28 | Leadbelly | 826 | (-5) |
29 | Search | 759 | (-18) |
30 | Laarsland | 655 | (+4) |
31 | Peixotini | 374 | (-30) |
32 | Nevs | 325 | (-18) |
33 | RedheadDane | 308 | (-7) |
34 | SamuCuenca | 168 | (-8) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1424 | ||
| Default | 364 |
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,770
- 10,736
- 28,180
The spreadsheet should now be fit for public release.
You'll see that I have included 2 tabs for Team similarity. The first, regarding how much of the budgets have been spent in the same way, has three instances of teams having spent more than 3000 on the same group of riders: Los Brolin and Madrazo matching each other's receipts to the extent of 3048, and both of them havin 3033 spent in the same way as I did (so they must both have Simon Carr).
The second is based simply on the number of riders held in common: Hfgon shares 6 riders with both Del1962 and Madrazo (and 7 with the Collective Wisdom group), while 5 rider overlaps are found between:
Amis Velo - Hfgon
Amis Velo - Leadbelly
Del - Madrazo
Hfgon -Los Brolin
Hfgon - Maglia Nera
Kazistuta - Titan
Los Brolin - Madrazo
and strangest of all, considering where they each are in the popularity table, Redhead Dane and Samu Cuenca.
Anyway, if you think you can make head or tail of my very inefficient Excel efforts, or if you reckon you can make interesting discoveries, the spreadsheet is on Google drive here, and hopefully I will remember to press save and update that each time I do an update. I might think to repeat the location occasionally, but if you will want to explore it, remember which post I have put the link in.
You'll see that I have included 2 tabs for Team similarity. The first, regarding how much of the budgets have been spent in the same way, has three instances of teams having spent more than 3000 on the same group of riders: Los Brolin and Madrazo matching each other's receipts to the extent of 3048, and both of them havin 3033 spent in the same way as I did (so they must both have Simon Carr).
The second is based simply on the number of riders held in common: Hfgon shares 6 riders with both Del1962 and Madrazo (and 7 with the Collective Wisdom group), while 5 rider overlaps are found between:
Amis Velo - Hfgon
Amis Velo - Leadbelly
Del - Madrazo
Hfgon -Los Brolin
Hfgon - Maglia Nera
Kazistuta - Titan
Los Brolin - Madrazo
and strangest of all, considering where they each are in the popularity table, Redhead Dane and Samu Cuenca.
Anyway, if you think you can make head or tail of my very inefficient Excel efforts, or if you reckon you can make interesting discoveries, the spreadsheet is on Google drive here, and hopefully I will remember to press save and update that each time I do an update. I might think to repeat the location occasionally, but if you will want to explore it, remember which post I have put the link in.
- Dec 27, 2016
- 547
- 132
- 9,780
Yes, i was starting to get concerned that I had lost all concept on how to play this game.
- May 5, 2010
- 50,736
- 29,354
- 28,180
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,770
- 10,736
- 28,180
Stage 3
I do like these mixed up top tens: Vingegaard/Gaudu/Ciccone, so it must be a mountainous stage; but Pedersen/Aular, so it's a hard sprint; but Labrosse/Koerdt, so ???
Green points
The same triple combination as yesterday leads the way today: Vingegaard, Bernal and Hindley
Standings
This is the minor classification, so I normally just show the top ten. The same riders as yesterday are relevant, so the same teams are in the same positions
Red points
Rather less dramatic change than yesterday:
DJW, Peixotini and Rufs suffer the first loss of a selected rider (Zingle)
All 8 riders in credit in Yellow Knight's team
Standings
GC position change on countback for Paret Peintre and Kuss are the reason for Yellow Knight's jump.
I do like these mixed up top tens: Vingegaard/Gaudu/Ciccone, so it must be a mountainous stage; but Pedersen/Aular, so it's a hard sprint; but Labrosse/Koerdt, so ???
Green points
| GAUDU David | 70 | 0 |
| PEDERSEN Mads | 40 | 0 |
| VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas | 25 | 26 |
| CICCONE Giulio | 15 | 1 |
| LABROSSE Jordan | 10 | 0 |
| AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto | 7 | 0 |
| BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago | 5 | 0 |
| BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley | 3 | 20 |
| KOERDT Bjoern | 2 | 0 |
| HINDLEY Jai | 1 | 13 |
The same triple combination as yesterday leads the way today: Vingegaard, Bernal and Hindley
1 | Shakes | 29 |
1 | MagliaNera | 29 |
1 | Madrazo | 29 |
1 | LosBrolin | 29 |
1 | Hfgon1 | 29 |
1 | Hayneplane | 29 |
1 | Del1962 | 29 |
1 | Bminchow | 29 |
1 | Armchair_Cyclist | 29 |
10 | YellowKnight | 28 |
10 | Titan31 | 28 |
10 | QueenStagiaire | 28 |
10 | NBFC1962 | 28 |
10 | Kazistuta | 28 |
10 | JumboVismaFan | 28 |
10 | Ingsve | 28 |
10 | BicycleBoy | 28 |
18 | Rufs | 26 |
18 | DevilsElbow | 26 |
20 | Vladimir | 25 |
20 | Triley36 | 25 |
20 | Onizuka999 | 25 |
20 | EvansIsTheBest | 25 |
20 | DJW | 25 |
20 | DJSprtsch | 25 |
20 | BluesInTheBottle | 25 |
27 | Search | 15 |
28 | Leadbelly | 4 |
28 | AmisVelo | 4 |
30 | Laarsland | 3 |
31 | SamuCuenca | 0 |
31 | RedheadDane | 0 |
31 | Peixotini | 0 |
31 | Nevs | 0 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 29 | |
| Default | 0 |
This is the minor classification, so I normally just show the top ten. The same riders as yesterday are relevant, so the same teams are in the same positions
1 | Ingsve | 128 | (-) |
2 | Triley36 | 120 | (-) |
3 | Armchair_Cyclist | 119 | (-) |
3 | Bminchow | 119 | (-) |
3 | Del1962 | 119 | (-) |
3 | Hayneplane | 119 | (-) |
3 | Hfgon1 | 119 | (-) |
3 | LosBrolin | 119 | (-) |
3 | Madrazo | 119 | (-) |
3 | MagliaNera | 119 | (-) |
3 | Shakes | 119 | (-) |
Rather less dramatic change than yesterday:
| VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas | 58 | 26 |
| PARET PEINTRE Valentin | 31 | 3 |
| KUSS Sepp | 16 | 8 |
| LANGELLOTTI Victor | 16 | 1 |
| QUINN Sean | 12 | 3 |
| HARPER Chris | -13 | 1 |
| ZINGLE Axel | -15 | 3 |
| SOBRERO Matteo | -21 | 1 |
| CICCONE Giulio | -30 | 1 |
| LECERF William Junior | -30 | 2 |
| SOLER Marc | -51 | 3 |
All 8 riders in credit in Yellow Knight's team
1 | YellowKnight | 125 |
2 | Bminchow | 99 |
3 | JumboVismaFan | 87 |
4 | Hayneplane | 86 |
5 | EvansIsTheBest | 84 |
6 | Triley36 | 80 |
7 | Armchair_Cyclist | 79 |
8 | Titan31 | 78 |
9 | DJSprtsch | 77 |
9 | MagliaNera | 77 |
11 | DJW | 73 |
12 | Del1962 | 72 |
13 | BluesInTheBottle | 71 |
13 | QueenStagiaire | 71 |
15 | NBFC1962 | 70 |
16 | Shakes | 68 |
17 | Hfgon1 | 67 |
18 | Onizuka999 | 66 |
19 | LosBrolin | 62 |
20 | Kazistuta | 61 |
21 | Madrazo | 58 |
22 | Vladimir | 52 |
23 | Rufs | 48 |
24 | Ingsve | 29 |
25 | AmisVelo | 26 |
26 | Leadbelly | 25 |
27 | DevilsElbow | 13 |
27 | Laarsland | 13 |
29 | SamuCuenca | 10 |
30 | Nevs | 9 |
31 | Peixotini | -11 |
32 | BicycleBoy | -12 |
33 | Search | -22 |
34 | RedheadDane | -45 |
| Collective_Wisdom | 67 | |
| Default | -63 |
GC position change on countback for Paret Peintre and Kuss are the reason for Yellow Knight's jump.
1 | Bminchow | 1529 | (-) |
2 | MagliaNera | 1502 | (-) |
3 | Hayneplane | 1498 | (+1) |
4 | Hfgon1 | 1479 | (-1) |
5 | YellowKnight | 1454 | (+4) |
6 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1453 | (-) |
7 | Madrazo | 1448 | (-2) |
8 | Del1962 | 1434 | (-1) |
9 | LosBrolin | 1379 | (+1) |
10 | Ingsve | 1363 | (-2) |
11 | Shakes | 1336 | (+1) |
12 | BicycleBoy | 1301 | (-1) |
13 | JumboVismaFan | 1282 | (+1) |
14 | Kazistuta | 1277 | (-1) |
15 | NBFC1962 | 1231 | (-) |
16 | Titan31 | 1229 | (+1) |
17 | QueenStagiaire | 1213 | (+1) |
18 | DevilsElbow | 1171 | (-2) |
19 | Rufs | 1158 | (-) |
20 | EvansIsTheBest | 1124 | (-) |
21 | DJSprtsch | 1084 | (-) |
22 | DJW | 1065 | (+1) |
23 | Vladimir | 1056 | (-1) |
24 | Triley36 | 1025 | (+1) |
25 | BluesInTheBottle | 1022 | (-1) |
26 | Onizuka999 | 1006 | (-) |
27 | AmisVelo | 909 | (-) |
28 | Leadbelly | 851 | (-) |
29 | Search | 737 | (-) |
30 | Laarsland | 668 | (-) |
31 | Peixotini | 363 | (-) |
32 | Nevs | 334 | (-) |
33 | RedheadDane | 263 | (-) |
34 | SamuCuenca | 178 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1491 | ||
| Default | 301 |
- Jun 30, 2022
- 7,037
- 10,454
- 17,180
- Mar 22, 2010
- 14,770
- 10,736
- 28,180
Stage 4
From Italy to France
Green points
Those in even numbered positions were to be expected in a spring stage, the odd positions, not so much
Turner wasn't on the start list when most of us submitted our selections. But the other eight were, so our excuses are limited.
70 points for Queen Stagiaire, 1 for Titan31
Standings
Titan holds the same position (13th) but would have dropped if not for that Buratti point.
Red points
Vingegaard not only loses the GC lead on countback, but also drops in the Sprint and KoM classifications
Many of the losses today may well prove to be temporary: they at least look dramatic. The teams without Vingegaard are the top 8 today.
The bottom three in this list have Paret Peintre as well as Vingegaard: two of yesterday's top three suffer that withdrawal.
Standings
Our first timer takes the lead
Although the daily difference tables look bad for Vingegaard and those that picked him, those teams still hold the top 19 places.
Tomorrow each of our teams gets a bonus according to how wealthy the teams that employ out picks are.
From Italy to France
Green points
Those in even numbered positions were to be expected in a spring stage, the odd positions, not so much
| TURNER Ben | 70 | 1 |
| PHILIPSEN Jasper | 40 | 0 |
| PLANCKAERT Edward | 25 | 0 |
| VERNON Ethan | 15 | 0 |
| BIERMANS Jenthe | 10 | 0 |
| PEDERSEN Mads | 7 | 0 |
| CHRISTEN Fabio | 5 | 0 |
| AULAR SANABRIA Orluis Alberto | 3 | 0 |
| SILVA COUSSAN Guillermo Thomas | 2 | 0 |
| BURATTI Nicolo | 1 | 1 |
Turner wasn't on the start list when most of us submitted our selections. But the other eight were, so our excuses are limited.
70 points for Queen Stagiaire, 1 for Titan31
Standings
1 | QueenStagiaire | 183 | (+12) |
2 | Ingsve | 128 | (-1) |
3 | Triley36 | 120 | (-1) |
4= | nine teams with Vingegaard/Bernal/Hindley | 119 | (-1) |
Titan holds the same position (13th) but would have dropped if not for that Buratti point.
Red points
Vingegaard not only loses the GC lead on countback, but also drops in the Sprint and KoM classifications
| TURNER Ben | 73 | 1 |
| KUSS Sepp | 38 | 8 |
| QUINN Sean | 28 | 3 |
| SOLER Marc | 20 | 3 |
| LANDA MEANA Mikel | 12 | 12 |
| PELLIZZARI Giulio | -12 | 13 |
| AYUSO PESQUERA Juan | -15 | 4 |
| HIRT Jan | -27 | 13 |
| CICCONE Giulio | -35 | 1 |
| PARET PEINTRE Valentin | -135 | 3 |
| VINGEGAARD HANSEN Jonas | -215 | 26 |
Many of the losses today may well prove to be temporary: they at least look dramatic. The teams without Vingegaard are the top 8 today.
1 | AmisVelo | 43 |
2 | RedheadDane | 37 |
3 | Leadbelly | 26 |
4 | SamuCuenca | 15 |
5 | Peixotini | -10 |
6 | Search | -15 |
7 | Nevs | -23 |
8 | Laarsland | -29 |
9 | QueenStagiaire | -163 |
10 | DJW | -171 |
11 | MagliaNera | -172 |
12 | Armchair_Cyclist | -176 |
13 | JumboVismaFan | -187 |
14 | DevilsElbow | -189 |
15 | BluesInTheBottle | -193 |
16 | Rufs | -201 |
17 | LosBrolin | -208 |
18 | EvansIsTheBest | -212 |
18 | Shakes | -212 |
18 | Triley36 | -212 |
21 | BicycleBoy | -213 |
22 | DJSprtsch | -215 |
22 | NBFC1962 | -215 |
22 | Vladimir | -215 |
25 | Titan31 | -218 |
26 | Onizuka999 | -219 |
27 | Kazistuta | -224 |
28 | Del1962 | -225 |
28 | Hfgon1 | -225 |
30 | Madrazo | -239 |
31 | Ingsve | -244 |
32 | YellowKnight | -344 |
33 | Hayneplane | -351 |
34 | Bminchow | -378 |
| Collective_Wisdom | -249 | |
| Default | 60 |
The bottom three in this list have Paret Peintre as well as Vingegaard: two of yesterday's top three suffer that withdrawal.
Standings
Our first timer takes the lead
1 | MagliaNera | 1330 | (+1) |
2 | Armchair_Cyclist | 1277 | (+4) |
3 | Hfgon1 | 1254 | (+1) |
4 | Madrazo | 1209 | (+3) |
5 | Del1962 | 1209 | (+3) |
6 | LosBrolin | 1171 | (+3) |
7 | Bminchow | 1151 | (-6) |
8 | Hayneplane | 1147 | (-5) |
9 | Shakes | 1124 | (+2) |
10 | Ingsve | 1119 | (-) |
11 | YellowKnight | 1110 | (-6) |
12 | JumboVismaFan | 1095 | (+1) |
13 | BicycleBoy | 1088 | (-1) |
14 | Kazistuta | 1053 | (-) |
15 | QueenStagiaire | 1050 | (+2) |
16 | NBFC1962 | 1016 | (-1) |
17 | Titan31 | 1011 | (-1) |
18 | DevilsElbow | 982 | (-) |
19 | Rufs | 957 | (-) |
20 | AmisVelo | 952 | (+7) |
21 | EvansIsTheBest | 912 | (-1) |
22 | DJW | 894 | (-) |
23 | Leadbelly | 877 | (+5) |
24 | DJSprtsch | 869 | (-3) |
25 | Vladimir | 841 | (-2) |
26 | BluesInTheBottle | 829 | (-1) |
27 | Triley36 | 813 | (-3) |
28 | Onizuka999 | 787 | (-2) |
29 | Search | 722 | (-) |
30 | Laarsland | 639 | (-) |
31 | Peixotini | 353 | (-) |
32 | Nevs | 311 | (-) |
33 | RedheadDane | 300 | (-) |
34 | SamuCuenca | 193 | (-) |
| Collective_Wisdom | 1242 | ||
| Default | 361 |
Although the daily difference tables look bad for Vingegaard and those that picked him, those teams still hold the top 19 places.
Tomorrow each of our teams gets a bonus according to how wealthy the teams that employ out picks are.
- May 5, 2010
- 50,736
- 29,354
- 28,180
Wasn't the Maglia Nera the jersey given to the guy last in the GC (of the Giro) back in the day?
So rather ironic that someone with that name know leads the game.
So rather ironic that someone with that name know leads the game.
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