- Jun 16, 2009
menchov will win overall, there I said it!
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The Rabo Tour squad is quite strong actually.SpartacusRox said:Sorry I didn't mean to imply that his victories were not worthy, they were, and I agree, 'what if' discussions are meaningless. However, the TdF is not a 'what if' question as he has generally underachieved in it. Last year it was undoubtedly due to fatigue from the Giro. This year that will not be a factor, I just don't think he has it against the leading contenders in a number of areas, team strength included.
Francois the Postman said:Three, but who is counting? It wasn't against real opposition, just non-top-5 soft peddlers like these Sastre, Sanchez, Di Luca, Pellizotti, Basso and Evans fellas, who also weren't challenging hard to win.
They didn't show up and he won. End of story for me really, as it would otherwise trigger endless what-if discussions. What if the others had shown up in all these to compete for real? Would they still be as fit to snatch the same TdF places? What if Menchov hadn't (and also had spared the legs in his team too)? Would Rabo have managed to squeeze more out of the TdFs if they had targeted just those?
No-one flukes his way to 3 GTs, and certainly not one which was arguably the hardest GT that year. But it seems you can win 3 without people even noticing, much. His mistake for not having English as a first language, or Ozzie blood. We wouldn't hear the end of it then. A Russian on a Dutch team. That defines "under the radar", no? I mean, come on, the guy hasn't even been able to bag a cool nickname yet. Tsss...
ericthesportsman6 said:It frustrates me that people are cynical of Menchov's GT wins. I don't hear any bashing of Carlos Sastre, who won the 2008 tour without multiple top riders being present.
Thanks people for digging up this thread, so I can tell issoisso to rewatch that stage himself. Gesink fell in the descent. Same spot as Txurruka, and some others. Dirt on the road. Well ok, you couldn't actually see it. But that's where it happened.issoisso said:Oh he doesn't? Re-watch the Tour of the Basque Country.
Libertine Seguros said:It was oil actually. That race was a travesty, because five days of great racing were ruined by the sour note of Txurruka's injury and not being able to claim the KoM despite having three times as many points as anyone else.
Tell me about it. Gesink could have won that raceLibertine Seguros said:It was oil actually. That race was a travesty, because five days of great racing were ruined by the sour note of Txurruka's injury and not being able to claim the KoM despite having three times as many points as anyone else.