74. Tour de Pologne (2.UWT), July 29 - August 4

[Arked]

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Sagan 2 gud. Overall victory? Is is realistic?

Nope. Those medium mountain stages seem easy but because of that are usually ridden hard by climber lead teams. Sagan won't survive that.

 

[BigMac]

SAGAN.

 

[klintE]

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Sagan 2 gud. Overall victory? Is is realistic?

Nope. Not this year. Field is too strong the course is too hard (for him).

 

[jsem94]

Too easy for Sagan.

 

[klintE]

Now the weather gonna be little harsh; as to believe in forecast, from tomorrow constantly more than 30 deg. 36-37 in peak (Tuesday)

 

[ihosama]

Re: Re:

Sagan 2 gud. Overall victory? Is is realistic?

Nope. Those medium mountain stages seem easy but because of that are usually ridden hard by climber lead teams. Sagan won't survive that.

Only the last one can be considered really hard. It will all depend how they are ridden and how much advantage he got after stage 5.. As he said - day to day and then he and team will see.

 

[Keram]

Sagan and his polish interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-Sku1fyUU I dont speak polish but understand something of interwiever and Peter obviously But Peter´s speaking is strongly influenced by slovak

 

[Tank Engine]

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Sagan and his polish interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-Sku1fyUU I dont speak polish but understand something of interwiever and Peter obviously But Peter´s speaking is strongly influenced by slovak

A typical flat stage in Poland. First, an escape and then Sagan wins (since Marcel is not here).

I don't hear the Slovak accent very often (I'm more used to Czechs and Ukranians - and my own ).
Slovak is, I think, the most similar to Polish. I think I did understand what Sagan said, but it took a couple of listens.
I guess he mixed up "otoczenie" - surroundings with "okrążenie" - lap.

Tomorrow is a very fast downhill sprint. He seemed to be joking about where he'll come: "fourth or fifth, at least better than in 2011", when he finished 11th in Katowice.

Against this field, he is the clear favourite.

 

[johnymax]

Re: Re:

Sagan 2 gud. Overall victory? Is is realistic?

Nope. Those medium mountain stages seem easy but because of that are usually ridden hard by climber lead teams. Sagan won't survive that.

Only the last one can be considered really hard. It will all depend how they are ridden and how much advantage he got after stage 5.. As he said - day to day and then he and team will see.

Interesting that betting sites have Sagan as the no.1 favourite for the overall with Teuns in second. They seem to think that the hilly stages aren't that hard.

 

[MADRAZO]

Re: Re:

Sagan 2 gud. Overall victory? Is is realistic?

Nope. Those medium mountain stages seem easy but because of that are usually ridden hard by climber lead teams. Sagan won't survive that.

Only the last one can be considered really hard. It will all depend how they are ridden and how much advantage he got after stage 5.. As he said - day to day and then he and team will see.

Interesting that betting sites have Sagan as the no.1 favourite for the overall with Teuns in second. They seem to think that the hilly stages aren't that hard.

The thing is that they probably also think its too hard for him but if there is a little chance its not then Sagan will win so if its 85% chance that the route is too hard for him its still 15% chance its not too hard (or will be ridden slow enough that he can be there) then Sagan would almost surely win the overall in that case and is therefore still the number one favourite, despite him most likely ending well back.

 

[Keram]

In case of that Sagan and Ewan will switch their places today who will be in yellow?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I believe that in the case of equal time, no fractions from time trials, and equal accumulated positions, the next criterion is most recent higher place, so Ewan would start stage 3 in yellow.

 

[klintE]

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Pologne. Best podium girls. Ever.

Kinda agree

 

[tomorrow]

Does anybody have any stream? The one I have been watching has been shut down

 

[Carols]

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Does anybody have any stream? The one I have been watching has been shut down

Mine also...Tiz cyling off air

 

[Carols]

https://www.firstone.tv/Live/France/Eurosport-1-162

In French

 

[klintE]

Modolo. Funny

 

[dick the quick]

van Poppel (Sky) is new leader, Sagan and Modolo s.t.

 

[Dr. Watson]

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van Poppel (Sky) is new leader, Sagan and Modolo s.t.

Did they base that on best placings from both days or..?

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

van Poppel (Sky) is new leader, Sagan and Modolo s.t.

Did they base that on best placings from both days or..?

Of course.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Re: Re:

van Poppel (Sky) is new leader, Sagan and Modolo s.t.

Did they base that on best placings from both days or..?

Of course.

Just checking, havent been following cycling for that long...

 

[tobydawq]

Re: Re:

van Poppel (Sky) is new leader, Sagan and Modolo s.t.

Did they base that on best placings from both days or..?

Of course.

Just checking, havent been following cycling for that long...

Fair enough. In an event with no time trials (in which case hundreths of a second are taken into account), the tie-breaker is always the total number of stage placings. If that is also a tie, the most recent stage placing will decide.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Re: Re:

van Poppel (Sky) is new leader, Sagan and Modolo s.t.

Did they base that on best placings from both days or..?

Of course.

Just checking, havent been following cycling for that long...

Fair enough. In an event with no time trials (in which case hundreths of a second are taken into account), the tie-breaker is always the total number of stage placings. If that is also a tie, the most recent stage placing will decide.

Got it, thanks

 

[Lequack]

So even with 7 men teams the breakaways have no chance in these flat-ish stages?

 

[GuyIncognito]

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So even with 7 men teams the breakaways have no chance in these flat-ish stages?

6 man teams back in 2013, and mountains before the flat to make the breaks harmless for GC.
Still no chance.