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In Omloop, Sagan did a lot of work at first, but no more or less the last 20 km. I think that the power GVA has left after a very hard race is still underestimated.
He certainly showed them...tukabel said:
Fair to say that GVA was working harder in the group today.Dekker_Tifosi said:
In Omloop, Sagan did a lot of work at first, but no more or less the last 20 km. I think that the power GVA has left after a very hard race is still underestimated.
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Quite opposite, I think "the imbecile" was Sagan! It was a perfect situation for him, 5 men group, GVA and Jens would work, Terpstra little less, but he couldn't go anywhere, and that young Sunweb guy would work alright after a few words from Sagan or GVA. So he wouldn't be spent at the finish and he would out sprint those guys easily. He wanted to prove a point, but he didn't proved anything, he just lost a race which he should've won quite easily!
Dekker_Tifosi said:By wanting to make Sagan lose, Terpstra made himself lose. What an imbecile.
You would say Van Avermaet wins this but Keukeleire is really fast too.
Quite opposite, I think "the imbecile" was Sagan! It was a perfect situation for him, 5 men group, GVA and Jens would work, Terpstra little less, but he couldn't go anywhere, and that young Sunweb guy would work alright after a few words from Sagan or GVA. So he wouldn't be spent at the finish and he would out sprint those guys easily. He wanted to prove a point, but he didn't proved anything, he just lost a race which he should've won quite easily!
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No.Last year week before Ronde Sagan won sprint against Cancellara but I am sure that would be different sprint in Ronde if that happened.Anyway GVA was today super strong whole day.Sagan had moments when he struggle or just stayed in back of peloton.GVA is look in better form before Ronde then Sagan after today race.Gigs_98 said:
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Sagan is a marked man. He wouldn't be if he wasn't the best rider in the world, no disrespect to GVA and the rest. And he keeps finding himself in a pickle: damn if he does (MSR), damn if he doesn't (today). I can't blame Terpstra: he did what they all do...
Hats off to GVA: he took his responsibilities. What a year so far!
Hats off to GVA: he took his responsibilities. What a year so far!
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Pretty crazy how GVA can still generate so much power even after a hard race of 250 km. I wouldn't want to go to the finish with him if I were Sagan. He will need to drop him if he wants to win imo.
Kinda feel bad for Sagan tbh, this is the second race he could and perhaps should have won (especially MSR, really dumb how he lost that one) that he just threw away.
Kinda feel bad for Sagan tbh, this is the second race he could and perhaps should have won (especially MSR, really dumb how he lost that one) that he just threw away.
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GVA has been a class act so far. Great win that was.
I had it in my head he was always a defensive rider, not an instigator. Is my memory playing tricks on me or has he become much more aggressive?
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Yeah people were always talking about how he'd waste his power at stupid moments in the race. Often attacking way too early
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well, sagan warned everybody, but mainly quicksteppers that he can decide who will win. In MSR, he decided it will be Kwiat, today, he decided it will be gva.
Now kidding aside, Sagan imho wouldn't have won against GvA today. As he seems never to do in these kind of finales. What he did today, was probably for Lefevre to realize, that GvA can't be let go. Sagan will probably drop everybody on Kwaaremont Paterberg duo, but he need's to get there in a way, when he can finish it alone, or without GvA, unless they have 1 min gap on Paterberg on the chasers, and even then I would favor GvA.
We'll see, but it should be a great spectacle on Sunday. I am glad GvA returned to the game as cycling fan, as Sagan's a little bet less. Let the best of those two win. If they splitted ToF and PR with PR to Sagan, I wouldn't care.
Now kidding aside, Sagan imho wouldn't have won against GvA today. As he seems never to do in these kind of finales. What he did today, was probably for Lefevre to realize, that GvA can't be let go. Sagan will probably drop everybody on Kwaaremont Paterberg duo, but he need's to get there in a way, when he can finish it alone, or without GvA, unless they have 1 min gap on Paterberg on the chasers, and even then I would favor GvA.
We'll see, but it should be a great spectacle on Sunday. I am glad GvA returned to the game as cycling fan, as Sagan's a little bet less. Let the best of those two win. If they splitted ToF and PR with PR to Sagan, I wouldn't care.
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Great race, great winner. I like GVA a lot more when he wins like this instead when he tries to wheelsuck his way to a win. To be fair the wheelsucking only happens when he goes head to head vs Sagan. Anyway he is having a fantastic start of the classics campaign. Can't wait for RVV.
I see the notion that GVA is a stronger sprinter than Sagan after a hard race is still going strong in here. As some posters have already noted, Sagan is usually the rider who spends a lot more energy before the final sprint. Also think of how many times have you seen Sagan saving energy in the last few kms in groups of two, three, four, five riders (maybe just a few times in his career) and how many times have you seen leading him out in these circumstances (almost every time). Now think of how many times have you seen GVA leading out for a sprint a group of 2, 3, 4 riders in the last kms. Of course I'm talking only about the situations when both GVA and Sagan were in a small group contesting the victory. I honestly can't think of a race where GVA was in front of Sagan when they were approaching the sprint in the last km of a race. GVA always makes sure Sagan is the one leading out. He is right, you say, Sagan is the better sprinter. I agree. But imagine if the roles were reversed and somehow Sagan finds himself behind GVA in those situations. I think Sagan wins 9/10.
GVA is a fantastic rider, a beast and a master tactician in the end of these type of races. But please stop with the Sagan can't sprint after a hard race nonsense. You can say Sagan's sprint after a hard race is more affected in comparison to his sprint after a TdF flat stage than GVA's sprint is. That would be true.
Having said that today the strongest rider won. Hats off to GVA. Today he was the one doing the most work and he did the lead out in the last km. Although it was against Keukelere (great ride by him btw) who doesn't have much experience in this kind of situations, he timed his sprint perfectly and took a convincing win. Again I can't wait for RVV
I see the notion that GVA is a stronger sprinter than Sagan after a hard race is still going strong in here. As some posters have already noted, Sagan is usually the rider who spends a lot more energy before the final sprint. Also think of how many times have you seen Sagan saving energy in the last few kms in groups of two, three, four, five riders (maybe just a few times in his career) and how many times have you seen leading him out in these circumstances (almost every time). Now think of how many times have you seen GVA leading out for a sprint a group of 2, 3, 4 riders in the last kms. Of course I'm talking only about the situations when both GVA and Sagan were in a small group contesting the victory. I honestly can't think of a race where GVA was in front of Sagan when they were approaching the sprint in the last km of a race. GVA always makes sure Sagan is the one leading out. He is right, you say, Sagan is the better sprinter. I agree. But imagine if the roles were reversed and somehow Sagan finds himself behind GVA in those situations. I think Sagan wins 9/10.
GVA is a fantastic rider, a beast and a master tactician in the end of these type of races. But please stop with the Sagan can't sprint after a hard race nonsense. You can say Sagan's sprint after a hard race is more affected in comparison to his sprint after a TdF flat stage than GVA's sprint is. That would be true.
Having said that today the strongest rider won. Hats off to GVA. Today he was the one doing the most work and he did the lead out in the last km. Although it was against Keukelere (great ride by him btw) who doesn't have much experience in this kind of situations, he timed his sprint perfectly and took a convincing win. Again I can't wait for RVV
Red Rick said:
Good stuff. I like the instigators. Really enjoyed his racing this season.
I'd put money on him for Flanders now.
(I'm easily confused, don't know why I thought he was normally defensive)
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https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929
Definitely a DSQ. What a horrible thing to do
Definitely a DSQ. What a horrible thing to do
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Forever The Best said:https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929
Definitely a DSQ. What a horrible thing to do
The clip won't play properly for me. Is it just of him shouldering another rider?
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Looks like the pressure and expectation is getting to him.Forever The Best said:https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929
Definitely a DSQ. What a horrible thing to do
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Forever The Best said:https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929
Definitely a DSQ. What a horrible thing to do
What? It looked like he lost control himself, nothing deliberate...
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