79th Gent-Wevelgem, 26th March 2017, 249 km, 1.UWT

[Escarabajo]

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Sagan and Terpstra just did a Freire/Kuchynski
https://youtu.be/OZdI2it_3LI

LOL.

It really would drive anybody crazy!!!

But he has to learn who has more to lose.

 

[Mr.White]

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QuickSteps tactics absolutely baffled me today. I thought Terpstra initially did well by playing it hard. He's never going to finish podium in a sprint and the chances of winning solo are slim with the riders he had with him. However, when GVA and Keukeleire were gone, he suddenly started chasing again. Playing poker is going all or nothing.

But then, if you decide to play poker, why not chase in the background, and put some pressure on Sagan and van Avermaet? They had six riders in the peloton and should have chased it down for either Boonen or Gaviria to sprint. Now they're with empty hands and are once again the laughing stock.

Once they run out of numbers in that front group, QS lost advantage. Terpstra couldn't do much either way, so his mistake is not nearly as big as Sagan's. And I doubt had he eased back to the group behind, it would change much, not to mention that simply you don't do such a thing in a race like that. When you're upfront, that means you're one of the strongest, and you just keep riding.

 

[trucido]

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QuickSteps tactics absolutely baffled me today. I thought Terpstra initially did well by playing it hard. He's never going to finish podium in a sprint and the chances of winning solo are slim with the riders he had with him. However, when GVA and Keukeleire were gone, he suddenly started chasing again. Playing poker is going all or nothing.

But then, if you decide to play poker, why not chase in the background, and put some pressure on Sagan and van Avermaet? They had six riders in the peloton and should have chased it down for either Boonen or Gaviria to sprint. Now they're with empty hands and are once again the laughing stock.

Once they run out of numbers in that front group, QS lost advantage. Terpstra couldn't do much either way, so his mistake is not nearly as big as Sagan's. And I doubt had he eased back to the group behind, it would change much, not to mention that simply you don't do such a thing in a race like that. When you're upfront, that means you're one of the strongest, and you just keep riding.

Sagan's "mistake" could turn out to be the most important decision for this Classics season.

The reaction from the Quickstep team-car to Terpstra's move tells you all you need to know.

 

[May0maniac]

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Terpstra has always been a dic/k. He bullied Santambrogio when he was considering suicide.

When, how?

Via twitter a couple or so years back. Can't remember what he wrote but recall people commenting on that.

If I remember correctly he pretty much called him an attention w****.
Add the incident with Maarten Wynantsin the Eneco Tour a few years back and a few other incidents that allegedly happened and you get the picture.
Greg as a pretty nice palmares and has a top 10 in 4 of the 5 Monuments (and a 12t place in Lombardia), that + the Olympic RR shows that he's really underrated as an allrounder.

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

QuickSteps tactics absolutely baffled me today. I thought Terpstra initially did well by playing it hard. He's never going to finish podium in a sprint and the chances of winning solo are slim with the riders he had with him. However, when GVA and Keukeleire were gone, he suddenly started chasing again. Playing poker is going all or nothing.

But then, if you decide to play poker, why not chase in the background, and put some pressure on Sagan and van Avermaet? They had six riders in the peloton and should have chased it down for either Boonen or Gaviria to sprint. Now they're with empty hands and are once again the laughing stock.

Once they run out of numbers in that front group, QS lost advantage. Terpstra couldn't do much either way, so his mistake is not nearly as big as Sagan's. And I doubt had he eased back to the group behind, it would change much, not to mention that simply you don't do such a thing in a race like that. When you're upfront, that means you're one of the strongest, and you just keep riding.

Sagan's "mistake" could turn out to be the most important decision for this Classics season.

The reaction from the Quickstep team-car to Terpstra's move tells you all you need to know.

You don't throw away a decent chance of winning a prestigious classic like GW though just to possibly (but probably not) score some psychological points. There's only two proper races left of the classics season for Sagan, and all he's got to show for it so far is one win in a minor race. Meanwhile, his main rival is cleaning up in style. It's not really the time to be playing games.

 

[Mr.White]

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QuickSteps tactics absolutely baffled me today. I thought Terpstra initially did well by playing it hard. He's never going to finish podium in a sprint and the chances of winning solo are slim with the riders he had with him. However, when GVA and Keukeleire were gone, he suddenly started chasing again. Playing poker is going all or nothing.

But then, if you decide to play poker, why not chase in the background, and put some pressure on Sagan and van Avermaet? They had six riders in the peloton and should have chased it down for either Boonen or Gaviria to sprint. Now they're with empty hands and are once again the laughing stock.

Once they run out of numbers in that front group, QS lost advantage. Terpstra couldn't do much either way, so his mistake is not nearly as big as Sagan's. And I doubt had he eased back to the group behind, it would change much, not to mention that simply you don't do such a thing in a race like that. When you're upfront, that means you're one of the strongest, and you just keep riding.

Sagan's "mistake" could turn out to be the most important decision for this Classics season.

The reaction from the Quickstep team-car to Terpstra's move tells you all you need to know.

I doubt it, we'll see... Although we didn't saw Bora Hansgrohe team-car reaction

 

[Netserk]

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So Sagan deliberately makes another rider crash Theo Bos-style, Terpstra is spitting on Søren Kragh Andersen (who by the way apparently has a *** DS - he was obviously told not to pull) and the Sagan-fans are blaming Terpstra for making a gap despite its all on Peter himself who sat up in the first place.

Really hoping Greg will win again on Sunday. Go Greg, you deserve your Ronde van Vlaanderen!

Where did you see the dude crashed?

 

[johnymax]

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Sagan and Terpstra just did a Freire/Kuchynski
https://youtu.be/OZdI2it_3LI

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Valv.Piti]

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So Sagan deliberately makes another rider crash Theo Bos-style, Terpstra is spitting on Søren Kragh Andersen (who by the way apparently has a *** DS - he was obviously told not to pull) and the Sagan-fans are blaming Terpstra for making a gap despite its all on Peter himself who sat up in the first place.

Really hoping Greg will win again on Sunday. Go Greg, you deserve your Ronde van Vlaanderen!

Where did you see the dude crashed?

https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929

 

[Netserk]

And where's the crash? You see a push, so what?

 

[DNP-Old]

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So Sagan deliberately makes another rider crash Theo Bos-style, Terpstra is spitting on Søren Kragh Andersen (who by the way apparently has a *** DS - he was obviously told not to pull) and the Sagan-fans are blaming Terpstra for making a gap despite its all on Peter himself who sat up in the first place.

Really hoping Greg will win again on Sunday. Go Greg, you deserve your Ronde van Vlaanderen!

Where did you see the dude crashed?

https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929

No idea what's going on, but this video is only 3 seconds long for me. While I'm pretty sure others are seeing a longer video.

 

[Netserk]

It is only 3 seconds long...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Thats the video.

I thought I read the guy crashed upthread. Just went through the comments and there were none, so actually unsure whether he crashed. Either way a super shitty move.

 

[sQiD]

GVA message to Terpstra :

“You’d better work until three kilometres from the finish and maybe save some energy from there, instead of whining and waiting,” Van Avermaet explained.

“At three kilometres from the finish, it’s possible to go off the gas, but beforehand, I worked to stay ahead and win the race.”

“Niki and Andersen were doing half-pulls,” continued Van Avermaet. “Before I did way too much work too, but I prefer to ride along in the group over getting annoyed and having to close a gap. I tried to keep cool and maybe did a bit too much work in the group of fourteen, but I was pleased that we were away to be in the group of five.”

“I was just doing my pull in front, when [Sports Director] Fabio Baldato was shouting in my ear that we were now in two. From there we kept going flat out,” Van Avermaet continued. “I preferred to ride to the finish with Jens then to do it with the three others.”

“Sagan’s certainly doing his share of the work, but he’s certainly not one of the biggest wheel suckers,” he added. “Some others do drag along and that can be annoying.”

 

[tomorrow]

Sagan lost his nerves, there's leaked a video in the finish area. I will censor it

Somebody: It's ok, it doesn't matter.
Sagan: What's ok, peep, I race with peeps like peep peep

 

[tomorrow]

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GVA message to Terpstra :

“You’d better work until three kilometres from the finish and maybe save some energy from there, instead of whining and waiting,” Van Avermaet explained.

“At three kilometres from the finish, it’s possible to go off the gas, but beforehand, I worked to stay ahead and win the race.”

“Niki and Andersen were doing half-pulls,” continued Van Avermaet. “Before I did way too much work too, but I prefer to ride along in the group over getting annoyed and having to close a gap. I tried to keep cool and maybe did a bit too much work in the group of fourteen, but I was pleased that we were away to be in the group of five.”

“I was just doing my pull in front, when [Sports Director] Fabio Baldato was shouting in my ear that we were now in two. From there we kept going flat out,” Van Avermaet continued. “I preferred to ride to the finish with Jens then to do it with the three others.”

“Sagan’s certainly doing his share of the work, but he’s certainly not one of the biggest wheel suckers,” he added. “Some others do drag along and that can be annoying.”

Is this some incorrect translation? If not, then somebody is not sane.

 

[sQiD]

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GVA message to Terpstra :

“You’d better work until three kilometres from the finish and maybe save some energy from there, instead of whining and waiting,” Van Avermaet explained.

“At three kilometres from the finish, it’s possible to go off the gas, but beforehand, I worked to stay ahead and win the race.”

“Niki and Andersen were doing half-pulls,” continued Van Avermaet. “Before I did way too much work too, but I prefer to ride along in the group over getting annoyed and having to close a gap. I tried to keep cool and maybe did a bit too much work in the group of fourteen, but I was pleased that we were away to be in the group of five.”

“I was just doing my pull in front, when [Sports Director] Fabio Baldato was shouting in my ear that we were now in two. From there we kept going flat out,” Van Avermaet continued. “I preferred to ride to the finish with Jens then to do it with the three others.”

“Sagan’s certainly doing his share of the work, but he’s certainly not one of the biggest wheel suckers,” he added. “Some others do drag along and that can be annoying.”

Is this some incorrect translation? If not, then somebody is not sane.

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...-finish-instead-of-whining-and-waiting-321848

 

[d-s3]

Yeah, that video from finish zone shows that he was genuinely pissed off.
I guess he's not gonna have a friendly chat with Terpstra anytime soon

 

[Max Rockatansky]

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Haha Sagan :lol:
Great win by Van Avermaet. He is also the 2nd rider to make the OHN-E3-GW triple after Jan Raas in 1981.

If he continues like Raas, his next victory will come at the end of August.

 

[Billie]

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So Sagan deliberately makes another rider crash Theo Bos-style, Terpstra is spitting on Søren Kragh Andersen (who by the way apparently has a *** DS - he was obviously told not to pull) and the Sagan-fans are blaming Terpstra for making a gap despite its all on Peter himself who sat up in the first place.

Really hoping Greg will win again on Sunday. Go Greg, you deserve your Ronde van Vlaanderen!

Where did you see the dude crashed?

https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929

you should watch the 10 seconds before the vid and it looks completely different...

 

[Breh]

Where can I see this video?

 

[tobydawq]

Can anybody link to that video? I can't find it anywhere on Twitter (where I would suspect it was seen).

 

[Billie]

https://youtu.be/iresoeCuUBQ?t=6565

 

[kenk09]

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So Sagan deliberately makes another rider crash Theo Bos-style, Terpstra is spitting on Søren Kragh Andersen (who by the way apparently has a *** DS - he was obviously told not to pull) and the Sagan-fans are blaming Terpstra for making a gap despite its all on Peter himself who sat up in the first place.

Really hoping Greg will win again on Sunday. Go Greg, you deserve your Ronde van Vlaanderen!

Where did you see the dude crashed?

https://twitter.com/haseveleon/status/846012328004988929

you should watch the 10 seconds before the vid and it looks completely different...

It looks worse when you see longer, imo. He was panicking because he was caught out of position, the race could have been lost right then, and that was the culmination of it.

It's not something he's done before, as far as I know, so I'm just chalking it up to a bad moment.

 

[tobydawq]

Yeah, that was not the video I meant. It was the one with him being angry post-race.