86th Tour de Suisse (2.UWT) // June 11th - 18th 2023

[Salvarani]

That's just rude.

Sarcastic humor I love it.

Some just dont get it. Throwing tantrums.

You are good in my book Januss.

 

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Not on my Eurosport player unfortunately. I do have Tour of Belgium and Tour of Slovenia for tomorrow, but no Tour de Suisse.

all broadcasting info is on page 1 of this thread.

You're from Slovenia, right?! If so, the broadcasting rights are with Arena Sport.

depends on where you're from. Eurosport has broadcasting rights for Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine and United Kingdom.

TV-Übertragung 2023 - Tour de Suisse

www.tourdesuisse.ch

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I was kidding!

Oh thank god.

 

[theyoungest]

Fun fact: Gall actually did a training camp with Quickstep after winning the junior WC.

Famously they also tested Peter Sagan, and didn't sign him, so I guess there's a lot of hope for riders that Quickstep decide aren't good enough.

 

[proffate]

Famously they also tested Peter Sagan, and didn't sign him, so I guess there's a lot of hope for riders that Quickstep decide aren't good enough.

“They were very good tests and even more, he turned up without shoes or a bike” said the Quick Step boss. “You know, the problem was that he only spoke Czech and wanted to focus on mountain biking* and, above all, he wanted money. But he was only 18 years old…“

 

[BR2]

“They were very good tests and even more, he turned up without shoes or a bike” said the Quick Step boss. “You know, the problem was that he only spoke Czech and wanted to focus on mountain biking* and, above all, he wanted money. But he was only 18 years old…“

"He only spoke Czech" - he said that?

 

[proffate]

"He only spoke Czech" - he said that?

Yea, [sic]

 

[movingtarget]

Nice win by Jensen.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

ATTACK and take the win! Nice Mattias!

Solid ride again by Magnus Sheffield!

Attack? Was sitting on Evenepoel's tail for 4 km and Gall was the one to attack.

 

[StryderHells]

Attack? Was sitting on Evenepoel's tail for 4 km and Gall was the one to attack.

In all fairness he did attack Gall.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

In all fairness he did attack Gall.

Yes, but he sat on Evenepoel for a bit too long but I can‘t see the numbers they were pushing or how he was feeling so I can‘t tell when he should have attacked but he looked the strongest and it looked like he just attacked because he didn‘t want to get caught by the chasers. I think he also just marked his most important GC rival and didn‘t care for Gall.

 

[Lequack]

Can Ayuso still win this?

 

[Berniece]

Can Ayuso still win this?

Definitely, today will be a good indicator for that. Needs to drop Evenepoel though, because he might lose +1min during that 25km TT

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Sure he can.
But I have Shellmoose on my CQ-team, so I'm rooting for him.

 

[Landeirovic]

Today Hirschi from the breakaway

 

[staubsauger]

In all fairness he did attack Gall.

Kinda only because Ayuso was about to bridge towards them.

 

[Rackham]

I think by & large there's too much focus on tactics among the layman fans of cycling (this is in general terms, not a specific comment regarding a particular post here), i.e. I had more fun watching yesterday's final ascent than at any point during the Dauphiné.

I think Evenepoel blowing the race apart like that was... fun to watch. Especially with Jip van den Bos on Eurosport saying stuff like "I don't think Evenepoel will attack" when James Knox was evidently setting up... an attack. Now we have a race here with a little hierarchy but quite a few riders who can still win this. Evenepoel didn't even lose much time either (& still came back to win the 'symbolic' sprint for 4th despite the group dropping him going into the final km). So he can still totally win GC.

I much prefer what happened yesterday rather than seeing one rider blow the field apart by going solo to the line & putting minutes into everyone. That might be fun for the fans of that particular rider but as a neutral spectator I like having some suspense in a bike race.

 

[Blanco]

Yes, but he sat on Evenepoel for a bit too long but I can‘t see the numbers they were pushing or how he was feeling so I can‘t tell when he should have attacked but he looked the strongest and it looked like he just attacked because he didn‘t want to get caught by the chasers. I think he also just marked his most important GC rival and didn‘t care for Gall.

The boy did everything right. He followed the main favorite, then when Gall attacked, he wisely let Evenepoel do some much work, then when he saw that Ayuso is closing on them, he jumped after Gall, caught him and dropped him for the first WT win and the leaders jersey.
In my book his performance was 10/10.

 

[staubsauger]

In the end Evenepoel wants to know where he currently stands and which homework he has to do ahead of the world championships & Vuelta a Espana. Hence why he's at the Tour de Suisse. Remco had to attack and see whether it backfires or not.

Ayuso was able to use a rather conservative approach yesterday. As he has to get into race rhythm first. On Albulapass he's in the same position though. There he needs to attack and see whether it strikes or backfires to have a leveling ahead of the Vuelta a Espana preparation.

Skjelmose specifically prepared for the Tour de Suisse and hence is a good reference for both Ayuso & Evenepoel.

Gall being in the shape of his life is a nice addition for the race.

 

[Blanco]

In the end Evenepoel wants to know where he currently stands and which homework he has to do ahead of the world championships & Vuelta a Espana. Hence why he's at the Tour de Suisse. Remco had to attack and see whether it backfires or not.

Ayuso was able to use a rather conservative approach yesterday. As he has to get into race rhythm first. On Albulapass he's in the same position though. There he needs to attack and see whether it strikes or backfires to have a leveling ahead of the Vuelta a Espana preparation.

Skjelmose specifically prepared for the Tour de Suisse and hence is a good reference for both Ayuso & Evenepoel.

Gall being in the shape of his life is a nice addition for the race.

Really? Not for Tour de France..?

 

[ciranda]

He is doing the TDF, did not prepare for the TdS especially.

Rock slides mean Albula Pass will maybe be replaced with the Julier Pass but don't think a decision has been made so far.

Chute d'une importante masse rocheuse à Brienz, des paysans évacués

Une importante masse rocheuse et des rochers isolés se sont détachés, mardi matin, de la pente instable qui surplombe le village grison évacué de Brienz. Les autorités ont dû évacuer aussitôt les paysans qui travaillaient sur les prés situés en aval de la localité.

www.rts.ch

 

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Rock slides mean Albula Pass will maybe be replaced with the Julier Pass but don't think a decision has been made so far.

if that comes with moving the finish to Silvaplana (like in 2003), it would still be a good stage. Not if they add 20k of flat to la Punt, though.

 

[Rob5091]

I saw that the top 100 meters of the Fluchthorn disappeared on Sunday so it must be that time of year. Hopefully no more disasters.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

He is doing the TDF, did not prepare for the TdS especially.

Rock slides mean Albula Pass will maybe be replaced with the Julier Pass but don't think a decision has been made so far.

Chute d'une importante masse rocheuse à Brienz, des paysans évacués

Une importante masse rocheuse et des rochers isolés se sont détachés, mardi matin, de la pente instable qui surplombe le village grison évacué de Brienz. Les autorités ont dû évacuer aussitôt les paysans qui travaillaient sur les prés situés en aval de la localité.

www.rts.ch

Doing Julierpass would mean that they would turn off the original route of the stage about 170 kms in or 40 kms out on the old stage profile and they would then take on this climb:

This is longer and more irregular but less hard than Albulapass. Afterwards they would descend this profile backwards:

If they finish in Silvaplana, the stage would end somewhere at the end of this descent. If not, they would likely leave this profile about a kilometer from the bottom via the new traffic bypass and take on just under 20 kilometers of almost completely flat roads towards La Punt.

 

[staubsauger]

That just completely alters the stage into nothing.

They should just finish on top of Fideriser Heuberg. Not gonna happen though