And if transfusion were a bigger thing, how come you never saw a grand tour winner come out of the blue like you do now? Anybody could spot a potential tour winner by the time they were 21-22 years old. That fact that they could be done doesn't mean they were done with any frequency. Heck, a blood doped Armstrong could have put 10 minutes in Zoet on one mountain stage. Even if it was done, it likely wasn't done "right".hrotha said:Yes, of course, but there's Zoetemelk and then not really much after that for over a decade (as far as GTs are concerned, which is key, since that's where you'll have all sorts of logistical problems with old-timey transfusions).