AG2R withraws from Criterium due to Giro Positive

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May 15, 2011
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Netserk said:
As alternative:
Lifetime ban on first violation UNLESS one names all suppliers etc. If so then 1-2 year ban.

that doesn't seem right to me, what if it's a false positive?
 
May 26, 2009
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Ag2r Team Management are to be congratulated for HONOURING their commitment to MPCC !

No doubt phat the rat will attempt to chop them off at the knees for their efforts to show that the MPCC are a meaningful organisation that abides by it's rules ?

@inrng has written a really informative blog post on this subject .

Currently UCI rules mean NOTHING , as can be seen by the efforts of that person who draws a SALARY for ensuring everyone other than himself abides by them ?

Neville Wran in Sydney , had his " Bagman " , who is the Swiss " bagman "?

June 16th , can't arrive quick enough for Cycling to get a " BRIGHTER FUTURE"!
 
May 23, 2013
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Must say it is brave move for them to do it and good for mpcc. But are going to miss out on white Jersey with a clear rider.
 
Aug 27, 2012
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I will not be surprised to see UCI interpret this as an impingement on their "anti-doping" rule enforcement, and act/express themselves accordingly.
 
May 15, 2011
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I like the policy in principal but I don't even think he will get a long ban, and this could ruin the team missing local race wont please sponsors.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
My alternative suggestion is to double the penalty for injection-delivered PED's. Which seems like nearly all of the leading edge dope.

I would assume that even if this began being discussed, it would only be a short period of time until the same methods were available orally. Doping Docs - always one step ahead, unfortunately.
 
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heart_attack_man said:
I would assume that even if this began being discussed, it would only be a short period of time until the same methods were available orally. Doping Docs - always one step ahead, unfortunately.

Peptides (HGH, GWxxx, EPO) for sure are not going to be easily available orally anytime soon. The Stomach is designed to denature protein/peptides, and its very good at it.

The drug company that finds a successful route to doing so will make a fortune from oral insulin for diabetics. (mainly type II where precise dosing isn't quite as important).
 
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Catwhoorg said:
Peptides (HGH, GWxxx, EPO) for sure are not going to be easily available orally anytime soon. The Stomach is designed to denature protein/peptides, and its very good at it.

The drug company that finds a successful route to doing so will make a fortune from oral insulin for diabetics. (mainly type II where precise dosing isn't quite as important).

The game is shifting towards small molecule -orally administered - precursors that stimulate natural protein production.

Many years ago I did work on calcitonin galenics - one of the few relatively simple peptides with a fairly flat dose response curve. Much work was done on inhaled, transdermal (various patch systems/needle-less injection) and oral forms. All work ie get absorbed but absorption variability affects dose response. So for drugs with steep (ie. normal) dose response curves it's still a no go and probably always will be. Better alternatives to spend money on. Eg oral precursors.
 

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