Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[BlurryVII]

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Well, 2013 is knocking on the door. Slightly better maybe but still way off.

2015 Giro d'Italia says Hi and kindly requests you stfu

What? I'm talking about right here right now, this Tour di,ckhead. I'm well aware he did the Giro, I've mentioned it plenty of time but despite the bad circumstances, this is one more year without getting anything out of the Tour

 

[sir fly]

Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I hope that next year Contador will focus on Tour de France only.

He will, he said he won't do the double again (i.e. next year)

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Well, 2013 is knocking on the door. Slightly better maybe but still way off.

2015 Giro d'Italia says Hi and kindly requests you stfu

What? I'm talking about right here right now, this Tour di,ckhead. I'm well aware he did the Giro, I've mentioned it plenty of time but despite the bad circumstances, this is one more year without getting anything out of the Tour

Call down Blurry, no need for name-calling.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

I think so too but he won't be going anywhere I'm afraid. His best bet is escaping at the foot of Alpe, but even that is a long shot, I expect Nairo to go from the base of the climb and Valverde will reel Alberto back in anyway.

Today was his chance, he should have gone with Nibali! Grrr

 

[SergeDeM]

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Well, 2013 is knocking on the door. Slightly better maybe but still way off.

2015 Giro d'Italia says Hi and kindly requests you stfu

What? I'm talking about right here right now, this Tour di,ckhead. I'm well aware he did the Giro, I've mentioned it plenty of time but despite the bad circumstances, this is one more year without getting anything out of the Tour

Yeah, he's at 2013 level, but the big difference is that this year he's on the way down formwise, not at his best for the year.

 

[SergeDeM]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

I think so too but he won't be going anywhere I'm afraid. His best bet is escaping at the foot of Alpe, but even that is a long shot, I expect Nairo to go from the base of the climb and Valverde will reel Alberto back in anyway.

Today was his chance, he should have gone with Nibali! Grrr

Nibali was too strong for him today anyhow.
The double is a dream of eras past. We all thank El Pistolero for proving it twice already.

 

[Carols]

Disappointing day...again. The man just hasn't had legs this entire Tour . Thank goodness he has a Giro trophy to show for the year!

 

[bala v]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

What mutual interest! They're all targeting the final podium spot, those three are like the worst enemies right now! Contador is probably the least interested, but they won't let him go, and he's not strong enough to drop them for good

 

[sir fly]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

I think so too but he won't be going anywhere I'm afraid. His best bet is escaping at the foot of Alpe, but even that is a long shot, I expect Nairo to go from the base of the climb and Valverde will reel Alberto back in anyway.

Today was his chance, he should have gone with Nibali! Grrr

Definitely.
He had a couple of reasons and now is forced to make the moves instead of reacting. It's difficult position when the legs are tired.

 

[BlurryVII]

Re: Re:

Well, 2013 is knocking on the door. Slightly better maybe but still way off.

2015 Giro d'Italia says Hi and kindly requests you stfu

What? I'm talking about right here right now, this Tour di,ckhead. I'm well aware he did the Giro, I've mentioned it plenty of time but despite the bad circumstances, this is one more year without getting anything out of the Tour

Yeah, he's at 2013 level, but the big difference is that this year he's on the way down formwise, not at his best for the year.

He's slightly better than in 2013. And I don't know what you're talking about when you say "he's on the way down", his Giro level would've been more than enough to be up there with Quintana and Froome, and fight for the win.

Thinking double all season has affected his performances overall, because he never wanted to hit a peak, neither at the spring nor at the Giro. But despite all those sacrifices, he still ended up coming tired at the Tour, which shows that the double is near impossible nowadays.

 

[Electress]

Gotta give the guy credit, come on! He's up there or thereabouts despite a very tough Giro. He's been trying, animating the race despite what seems was a bad crash and not having the form, plus facing MoviStar who have shown some frankly bizarre tactics. Movi. would be in a lot better position with respect to the MJ if they had made Sky work harder yesterday, for example.

Chapeau to AC for taking on his third GC in a row and still being within shouting distance of podium!

What this Tour has shown me is that there's really only Contador and Nibali who are proactive, attacking riders in the top GC riders. Nairo finally put in his attack, but it's way too little too late - he's been too conservative. Been around Valverde too long IMO.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Well, 2013 is knocking on the door. Slightly better maybe but still way off.

2015 Giro d'Italia says Hi and kindly requests you stfu

What? I'm talking about right here right now, this Tour di,ckhead. I'm well aware he did the Giro, I've mentioned it plenty of time but despite the bad circumstances, this is one more year without getting anything out of the Tour

Yeah, he's at 2013 level, but the big difference is that this year he's on the way down formwise, not at his best for the year.

He's slightly better than in 2013. And I don't know what you're talking about when you say "he's on the way down", his Giro level would've been more than enough to be up there with Quintana and Froome, and fight for the win.

Thinking double all season has affected his performances overall, because he never wanted to hit a peak, neither at the spring nor at the Giro. But despite all those efforts, he still ended up coming tired at the Tour, which shows that the double is near impossible nowadays.

That's the point "He's on the way down formwise, not at his best for the year" in other words in the Giro he was in better shape.

 

[sir fly]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

What mutual interest! They're all targeting the final podium spot, those three are like the worst enemies right now! Contador is probably the least interested, but they won't let him go, and he's not strong enough to drop them for good

Mutual interest for sharing the workload, not the GC battle.
The stage is on offer, and neither of them will fancy their chances against Froome and Quintana.

 

[SergeDeM]

Re: Re:

Well, 2013 is knocking on the door. Slightly better maybe but still way off.

2015 Giro d'Italia says Hi and kindly requests you stfu

What? I'm talking about right here right now, this Tour di,ckhead. I'm well aware he did the Giro, I've mentioned it plenty of time but despite the bad circumstances, this is one more year without getting anything out of the Tour

Yeah, he's at 2013 level, but the big difference is that this year he's on the way down formwise, not at his best for the year.

He's slightly better than in 2013. And I don't know what you're talking about when you say "he's on the way down", his Giro level would've been more than enough to be up there with Quintana and Froome, and fight for the win.

Thinking double all season has affected his performances overall, because he never wanted to hit a peak, neither at the spring nor at the Giro. But despite all those efforts, he still ended up coming tired at the Tour, which shows that the double is near impossible nowadays.

That's exactly what I mean. He peaked at the Giro, and after you peak your form drops. Even after all of that, his current non-peak is slightly better than his 2013 peak. Is that clearer?

 

[SeriousSam]

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His Giro level would've been more than enough to be up there with Quintana and Froome, and fight for the win.

lol

 

[Matteo.]

He never had a peak this year , that's the truth

 

[Matteo.]

No , not at all. Giro's shape was enough fot the podium behind F and Q.

 

[BlurryVII]

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His Giro level would've been more than enough to be up there with Quintana and Froome, and fight for the win.

lol

Hmm, 5.96 w/kg on abetone, 5.97 w/kg on campitello matese, 5.81 w/kg on monte Ologno.

The only better performance in this Tour, is Froome's 6.09 on la Pierre. Today, Quintana did 5.69 w/kg for 44 mins on la Toussuire.

It's fair to say that he'd have competed for the win . But the usual bias will make you think not.

 

[saunaking]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

Stage victory

He'll always have Verbier.... a million years ago

 

[ray j willings]

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His Giro level would've been more than enough to be up there with Quintana and Froome, and fight for the win.

lol

if you look how close he has been to the GC contenders then his Giro form would easily have been good enough to win this.

if Bertie was in decent shape he his attacks over the last 2 days would have stuck although I doubt by then he would have needed to attack so far out.
You have to say that last years Vuelta was a fair result when you look at Froomes performance in this tour.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

Stage victory

He'll always have Verbier.... a million years ago

I fail to see your point?

 

[sir fly]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

Stage victory

He'll always have Verbier.... a million years ago

Who could've known at the time...

 

[BlurryVII]

It's just fun to put things in perspective and realise that Froome was stronger in the 3rd week of the Vuelta 2014 than in this entire Tour including la Pierre saint martin.

The overall level is quite low in this Tour actually, but people will think the contrary because it's the Tour. But the fact is that Contador and Landa Giro 15' version would be up there in the mountains with F and Q.

 

[Ludwig's Olaf]

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Contador would love to get a stage victory, and in order to do that, I think he can't wait for the Alpe d'Huez.
Croix de Fer is probably too far for his current shape, and there are Nibali and Valverde, but the mutual interest could be found.
He'll try, I'm convinced

Stage victory

He'll always have Verbier.... a million years ago

Purito had two recently. Doesn't look too pleased nonetheless.