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Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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CheckMyPecs said:
Why not go for an epic stage win and the mountains jersey?
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He needs to give GC one more try, if he doesn'rt get better. Let it go and go for stage wins.

I don't want him to give up and then just do the vuelta.
 
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Red Rick said:
LaFlorecita said:
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Bring Kreuziger in as well, he seems loyal, there you have a potential top domestique already.
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Loyal, except when looking for a contract.
I seriously doubt he would be willing to go with Alberto unless it is simply the best offer available.
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What? now? I don't blame him.
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Like, when was the last time alberto helped kreuziger? Or even said something like 'kreutiger was good help today'. Never. Kreutiger :)
 
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LaFlorecita

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sir fly said:
Regardless of development on road, as long as Contador can ride his bike he should stay in the race.
Giving up in order to prepare for Vuelta would be such a second-rate act, miles below his reputation. Not even genuine Vuelta hunters, Tour domestiques, were doing that.
He should soldier on, see what can he achieve and arrive to Champs-Élysées holding his head high.
That's how champions do.
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He is injured. No one will blame an injured rider for abandoning and setting new goals.
 
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LaFlorecita

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CheckMyPecs said:
Why not go for an epic stage win and the mountains jersey?
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Because Sky and Movistar will never allow him to go in a break. And it seems clear he will score no points whatsoever in the Pyrenees, I don't think he'll be able to get enough points in the Alps to win the KOM classification.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
sir fly said:
Regardless of development on road, as long as Contador can ride his bike he should stay in the race.
Giving up in order to prepare for Vuelta would be such a second-rate act, miles below his reputation. Not even genuine Vuelta hunters, Tour domestiques, were doing that.
He should soldier on, see what can he achieve and arrive to Champs-Élysées holding his head high.
That's how champions do.
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He is injured. No one will blame an injured rider for abandoning and setting new goals.
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I think that ship has sailed on Sunday. Especially after claiming he's recovering and feeling better.
 
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You guys are dreaming if you think Contador can still do something significant at this Tour de France. It's game over for him. He's like a wounded animal limping along. It's a far lesser prize, but he should switch his attention to riding and winning the Vuelta.
 
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so everywhere i dig and read, everyone is saying the same thing. His team seems to abandon him. If that's true, it's tough to overcome anything, especially with injured body. Even though the majority believes he should pull out, ow well, I don't think he will. Last year he was limping also from fatigue. 2014 he broke his leg, and still tried to ride. Unless another unlucky things happen, I don't see him quitting, even if he ends up placing 7th! I'm not disappointed. But hearing the rumor or maybe true, that his team already abandons him, that's truly a disappointment.
 
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sir fly said:
Regardless of development on road, as long as Contador can ride his bike he should stay in the race.
Giving up in order to prepare for Vuelta would be such a second-rate act, miles below his reputation. Not even genuine Vuelta hunters, Tour domestiques, were doing that.
He should soldier on, see what can he achieve and arrive to Champs-Élysées holding his head high.
That's how champions do.
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He's not one to give up unless he is just physically unable to continue. When he pulled out in 2014 the pain from simply riding and climbing was just too intense to continue. I'm sure he has been fully examined in this year's Tour to make sure there are no fractures. I think he is suffering from extreme discomfort at this point and I'm hoping that he can somehow recover over the course of the Tour to still make his mark. He has too much pride to quit because he's lost time.

All the talk of him being a "liar" really, really bothers me, such that I cut back on my time in this forum. In my book that is a very serious accusation to lay on someone and I just do not agree with it. What would he have to gain from these so called untruths (to use a softer word)? With each of these "lies" there is a reasonable explanation. Many posters have been led to this belief by the truly hateful anti-Contador forum members to accept his every word as false. Many are self-proclaimed fans of Contador. How can one be a fan of someone that they believe is supposedly a serial liar? It makes no sense to me. Okay my rant is over. I await the onslaught of abuse.
 
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Bertie has faced a team that was not rooting him (2009) so whats new? Well he is older and the other teams are stronger than the top teams of 2009.
 
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TuCzech said:
Kreuziger was slowed down by team orders. He wasnt dropped. I dont understand why some are mad at him. He just follows team orders. Always loyal to contador past three years and when just follows team orders contador fanboys are instantly mad at him. Ridiculous.
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Exactly. For the past 3-4 years, he was Alberto´s first hand on nearly every stage race and did not get a chance to ride for himself in the biggest races. Seems pretty loyal to me. And now, when for one time, he is maybe better option for GC, Alberto fanboys/fangirls are crying. Look at the past! I love to watch Alberto ride, don´t get me wrong, but you need to be realistic for god´s sake. Leave Kreuziger be, he does not deserve any hate.
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I am not a Contador fan, but I am a cyclinng fan and what happends today with Contador, and not today, these last days has no name...it is an insult to himand to cyclinng, He was close to get the group in the descent, he just needed there Kreuziger and he would have lost just 10 econds at the ed or maybe nothing. It is crazy, becouse Contador looks in a good condition annd almost recovered of his crash...

Maybe we lost something around Contador, Tinkoff, ... It is difficult to give a better opinionn without all the informationn, but...

Everyboy here knnows that I think contador has not the level to beat Froome and Quintanna in le Tour, evenn inn a good route for him like rthis year, but if someone can beat him with a point below, it is Contador, he is a great rider with a good palmares and despite lot of things deserves more repect...and even for former fans now, espite a lot of things I dont like, but he deserves more respect.

Curiously, the only ones respecting Contador are SKY...they wasnt giving everything to eliminate him, must worked at the end how is logical... Movistar yes, and there is nothing to say againts, for sure. But SKY even thinking the main battle is with Quintana, they want Contador in best condition and beat him on the road, not for bad luck.
 
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Angliru, I can see where you're coming from. I agree that the constant accusations of lying are quite disrespectful. Yes, he sometimes doesn't tell the entire truth and he's not a stranger to sandbagging but that's very far from lying IMO.
 
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The purpose of a GC contender is to win. The purpose of a brainless GC contender is to try to win, even when he'll have a very high probability of not winning. The purpose of a rational GC contender is to maximize his probabilities of winning.

Clearly, Contador has a slim chance of winning this year's tour, particularly because today Froome's performance wasn't that good, which means that he'll most likely be stronger in the last week, when we'll have the last ITT, so even if Contador wins it, he'll probably won't get a big margin of the englishman.

If by the weekend he bleeds time, I'd call the quits if I were him and aim for the Vuelta. Winning a GT in one season is better than not to win any.
 
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Hmm... :(
 
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The only GT he quit was after he fractured his leg. If no broken bones, or other too serious injury, I don't see him quitting.
That said, he does look very weird on the bike atm, ribs maybe?
 
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