Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[hrotha]

Contador's numbers:

Source: Contador

 

[LaFlorecita]

Damn I would have liked to see Berto in this race

 

[Miburo]

He would have been dropped. Come on fleur, you know that

 

[LaFlorecita]

Damn I would have liked to see Berto in this race

Well now the race has finished I doubt he could have won but he would have made the race interesting and could have been top 5 or at least top 10.. hmm

 

[Valv.Piti]

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He would have been dropped. Come on fleur, you know that

Of course. Nothing really suggests he would have done better this time around, he wasn't exactly stellar in Spain and didn't seem to improve there like Chaves did.

 

[Gigs_98]

Damn I would have liked to see Berto in this race

Well now the race has finished I doubt he could have won but he would have made the race interesting and could have been top 5 or at least top 10.. hmm

The race really didn't need anyone to make it more interesting. Contador probably wouldn't have done anything there, and probably would have dropped like Purito anyway.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The race really didn't need anyone to make it more interesting. Contador probably wouldn't have done anything there, and probably would have dropped like Purito anyway.

I don't think so, I think he would have been in the 2nd group at least
Btw I meant more interesting for me personally, any race with Berto in it is more interesting to me than without him.

 

[Valv.Piti]

The race really didn't need anyone to make it more interesting. Contador probably wouldn't have done anything there, and probably would have dropped like Purito anyway.

I don't think so, I think he would have been in the 2nd group at least
Btw I meant more interesting for me personally, any race with Berto in it is more interesting to me than without him.

There's a decent chance he simply doesn't want to go and he is faking a flu, right?
Wouldn't he go if he actually felt he had a chance? At least in the 2nd group implies you think he actually could have been in the best group today. Alberto is probably the the only bike rider in the world who is a better when he is off the bike.

 

[Miburo]

Definitely faking it, at least imo

 

[Arredondo]

The race really didn't need anyone to make it more interesting. Contador probably wouldn't have done anything there, and probably would have dropped like Purito anyway.

I don't think so, I think he would have been in the 2nd group at least
Btw I meant more interesting for me personally, any race with Berto in it is more interesting to me than without him.

His best result in Lombardia was 9th in 2012. I don't think it would have been better today if he started. For sure he wouldn't have been able to follow the likes of Chaves and Uran.

 

[LaFlorecita]

The race really didn't need anyone to make it more interesting. Contador probably wouldn't have done anything there, and probably would have dropped like Purito anyway.

I don't think so, I think he would have been in the 2nd group at least
Btw I meant more interesting for me personally, any race with Berto in it is more interesting to me than without him.

His best result in Lombardia was 9th in 2012. I don't think it would have been better today if he started. For sure he wouldn't have been able to follow the likes of Chaves and Uran.

I don't understand how you can be sure he wouldn't have been able to follow Chaves and Uran, and anyway even if he couldn't have, he still could have been in the 2nd group. The parcours suited him better than in 2012, I don't think it's crazy to believe he could have done better than in 2012, unless he's only sat on his arse doing nothing since the Vuelta which we know isn't the case.

 

[peloton]

Some rumors going on he didn't want to start because Roman was on the team.
No idea if it's true, mind.

Also, apparently Bauke is not too pleased that he's joining Trek. I probably wouldn't be either in his shoes, so fair enough

 

[peloton]

The race really didn't need anyone to make it more interesting. Contador probably wouldn't have done anything there, and probably would have dropped like Purito anyway.

I don't think so, I think he would have been in the 2nd group at least
Btw I meant more interesting for me personally, any race with Berto in it is more interesting to me than without him.

His best result in Lombardia was 9th in 2012. I don't think it would have been better today if he started. For sure he wouldn't have been able to follow the likes of Chaves and Uran.

I don't understand how you can be sure he wouldn't have been able to follow Chaves and Uran, and anyway even if he couldn't have, he still could have been in the 2nd group. The parcours suited him better than in 2012, I don't think it's crazy to believe he could have done better than in 2012, unless he's only sat on his **** doing nothing since the Vuelta which we know isn't the case.

He might have been able to stay in there, but we all know he can't sprint at all, so to win he'd have to be in super form and drop all.

 

[Kwibus]

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Some rumors going on he didn't want to start because Roman was on the team.
No idea if it's true, mind.

Also, apparently Bauke is not too pleased that he's joining Trek. I probably wouldn't be either in his shoes, so fair enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksc85bFfoPk

 

[boasson]

Olegs Interview to CN:

Oleg about Contador: “ I don’t like him. Even in the team, most of the riders don’t like him. He ended up having a bad relation with almost everyone, apart from his little Spanish group.

Personally I think Alberto should stop riding because he’s not as strong anymore. I stopped owning the team at the right moment, at the top. He’s a great champion and so should stop now. I think he’s going to be like a limping duck. He’s going to look stupid. At the Vuelta he was dropped by the best four or five riders, next year it will be by the best 20 riders. I don’t think he’s ever going to win another Grand Tour. He should forget about it and quit.

CN: You seem angry with Contador. What happened?

Tinkov: I’m angry because we didn’t win the WorldTour ranking because he either crashed, he was sick or abandoned. He didn’t ride Lombardia and I don’t know if he didn’t ride on purpose but I don’t like it. It’s ***. For the money he earns, that shouldn’t happen. Valverde was sick three days ago but he rode Lombardia and finished top ten. That’s class.
Contador won’t be at the farewell party because I told him: you’re sick, stay at home, you can’t bring a virus to the party and make the other guys sick before the World Championships. I think the party will be better without him anyway because he’s a sad person.

 

[hrotha]

I may agree with some of that but it's absolutely classless of Tinkov to say it in public.

Then again, Tinkov being a ***. What else is new?

 

[luckyboy]

That's pathetic. Thank god he is leaving this sport

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

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I may agree with some of that but it's absolutely classless of Tinkov to say it in public.

Then again, Tinkov being a ***. What else is new?

It's a classless response to what he believes are classless actions by Contador, particularly his Lombardia no-show / B.S.(?) excuse. An eye for an eye, in his mind. Wouldn't be my style, either, but I think I get where he's coming from.

It's interesting that he says that almost no one on the team likes Contador, apart from his (manipulative?) "little Spanish group." Hyperbole or not, I wonder how much truth there is to that and how it will affect his time at Trek, if at all.

 

[hrotha]

I'd have an easier time accepting that explanation if Tinkov had merely called out Contador for skipping Lombardia with a bogus excuse, without getting into how nobody likes him and how he's going to suck next year.

 

[movingtarget]

Oh well if even some of Tinkov's comments are true and they probably are as he doesn't seem to be the type to hold back, it explains why Tinkoff seemed to be such a dysfunctional team especially in the Tour. I think he's right about Contador's GT aspirations though. It's hard to see him winning another grand tour but of course it would help if he stopped crashing.

 

[Pennino]

Interesting interview. I don't have any reason to doubt any of his comments, to be honest. Even Andrea Bocelli can see it, it's obvious how Conta (of whom I am a huge fan, in terms of class and technique) has that type of sad personality.

And I neither see reasons for which Tinkov now should be called 'a piece of sh#t' or something. I rather see it this way: the last time he publically criticised Conta, Conta answered with the pedals making a big step forward in terms of competitiveness. I'm sure he will do so at Trek again.

 

[Red Rick]

Bad atmosphere within the team. Doesn't really seem like Tinkoff has no blame in that himself though

 

[LaFlorecita]

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That's pathetic. Thank god he is leaving this sport

Good riddance.
Pathetic piece of ***.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I think many knew these things about Contador, I remember various people in this thread questioning his personality. It really comes as no surprise. I wouldn't have had a problem with it if Tinkoff just phrased it a bit differently, he comes across a bit to harsh at times, but very interesting interview.

Bad atmosphere within the team. Doesn't really seem like Tinkoff has no blame in that himself though

So Tinkoff is the only one to blame here and Contador had no responsibility whatever? Sagan doesn't seem to have any problem with it.

 

[cineteq]

Tinkov: "To be honest I have a much worse relationship with Contador but the media have never really picked up on it. In fact I don’t have a relationship with him. I respect him as a rider for his past but as a person he’s never really appealed to me. I don’t like him. Even in the team, most of the riders don’t like him. He ended up having a bad relation with almost everyone, apart from his little Spanish group"

It comes as no surprise Contador always had a "mentalidad de provincia". He could've been even better if he had a better relationship with riders from other countries. That doesn't disqualify him as one of the best GC riders ever in taking ownership. #WinnerApproach

PS: Tinkov has the right to say whatever he wants. He was the team freaking owner!