Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[rick james]

In this Tour, 2017, they won't let Contador win a stage as things stand today. Froome et al respect, or fear, Contador too much to let him get away. Only if Alberto were to lose 30 minutes more on GC would he be given the go ahead for a stage win.

Same here. I'm sure Froome won't allow him to ride away for a stage with the current gaps. Not sure it's fear or anything though, throughout the years it has just seemed like he doesn't want him to get any kind of glory, even in smaller stage races.

I totally agree, Froome seems to have made it a personal mission to keep the trophy cupboard of AC empty. Even when they are not going for a win, he pushes extra hard to make sure AC will not get any kind of glory or cheer. I ask what did AC do to this fella. That mania to make AC feel down and bad is one of the things I don't like about Froome, why I can't get on his boat. He wants to prove "I am better than AC". Fine but I also get the sense that he also does not want AC to get any sort of victory or feel good. Its a dark aspect of Mr F. Is it insecurity? What more do you need to make you feel am a rock star rider, you already have multiple TDFs. And how does making riding life miserable for AC make you a rock star? does not add up.

Maybe before, but the last couple of years Bertie has been an irrelevance to Froome

 

[rick james]

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Froome can win another 10 TdF's in his boring "Oh well luckily the team does a great job protecting me" fashion. No way that's going to make him even half as good as Alberto. Even a Tour-Vuelta double won't bring him close. The post-ban Contador alone is greater than Froome will ever be.

And that's just very sad reality. That such a figure who's dominating GC racing for almost half a decade now still receives laughter and that he isn't going to be nowhere near Alberto's stature. Because some freaking island that doesn't want to be part of Europe either had to be brought into road racing. So, so cruelly sad. Why has this Rupert Murdoch guy to ruin it all for us cycling fans...

Oh my, someone is struggling to face the truth

 

[LaFlorecita]

Maybe before, but the last couple of years Bertie has been an irrelevance to Froome

Yeah, "Bertie" sure was an irrelevance to Froome last Vuelta..!

 

[Angliru]

Maybe before, but the last couple of years Bertie has been an irrelevance to Froome

Yeah, "Bertie" sure was an irrelevance to Froome last Vuelta..!

DOH!
Posting character limit.

 

[jilbiker]

Maybe before, but the last couple of years Bertie has been an irrelevance to Froome

Yeah, "Bertie" sure was an irrelevance to Froome last Vuelta..!

I agree, I am not getting this Bertie is of no relevance feeling of recent years. It is not about protecting my lead, it seems to be "I will make SURE you get no glory". Even if Froome was 30minutes ahead of AC in this TDF and he sees AC go for a stage win, he will attack with all energy to make sure he does not get it. Perhaps there was a past incidence that we do not know of. It really seems personal.

 

[rick james]

Maybe before, but the last couple of years Bertie has been an irrelevance to Froome

Yeah, "Bertie" sure was an irrelevance to Froome last Vuelta..!

if that's his greatest recent achievement how sad is that?

 

[buchanan]

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Froome can win another 10 TdF's in his boring "Oh well luckily the team does a great job protecting me" fashion. No way that's going to make him even half as good as Alberto. Even a Tour-Vuelta double won't bring him close. The post-ban Contador alone is greater than Froome will ever be.

And that's just very sad reality. That such a figure who's dominating GC racing for almost half a decade now still receives laughter and that he isn't going to be nowhere near Alberto's stature. Because some freaking island that doesn't want to be part of Europe either had to be brought into road racing. So, so cruelly sad. Why has this Rupert Murdoch guy to ruin it all for us cycling fans...

So much of what you wrote is nonsense.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Maybe before, but the last couple of years Bertie has been an irrelevance to Froome

Yeah, "Bertie" sure was an irrelevance to Froome last Vuelta..!

if that's his greatest recent achievement how sad is that?

Who said it was?

 

[Singer01]

It's a bit odd criticising Froome riding to prevent Contador winning, when Formigal was basically Contador burying himself for Quintana with almost no personal gain.

 

[miguelindurain111]

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Froome can win another 10 TdF's in his boring "Oh well luckily the team does a great job protecting me" fashion. No way that's going to make him even half as good as Alberto. Even a Tour-Vuelta double won't bring him close. The post-ban Contador alone is greater than Froome will ever be.

And that's just very sad reality. That such a figure who's dominating GC racing for almost half a decade now still receives laughter and that he isn't going to be nowhere near Alberto's stature. Because some freaking island that doesn't want to be part of Europe either had to be brought into road racing. So, so cruelly sad. Why has this Rupert Murdoch guy to ruin it all for us cycling fans...

I disagree, but thank heaven we all have right to express an opinion :lol:

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It's a bit odd criticising Froome riding to prevent Contador winning, when Formigal was basically Contador burying himself for Quintana with almost no personal gain.

No personal gain? He moved from 6th to 4th, less than half a minute from 2nd.

 

[dacooley]

Both Contador and Froome always rode with aim of not allowing each other to win, which is perfectly normal, as their rivalry in grand tours is the most canonical over the last decade!

 

[Alexandre B.]

Before the Tour start, Christian Prudhomme said in an interview that he would like to see Contador decide the race winner.

 

[Ikbengodniet]

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Both Contador and Froome always rode with aim of not allowing each other to win, which is perfectly normal, as their rivalry in grand tours is the most canonical over the last decade!

I think the rivalry between Froome and Quintana is bigger.

 

[dacooley]

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Both Contador and Froome always rode with aim of not allowing each other to win, which is perfectly normal, as their rivalry in grand tours is the most canonical over the last decade!

I think the rivalry between Froome and Quintana is bigger.

it's clearly most significant on the road, but inferior in terms of riders' contrast, as well as 100% inferior in fans' mind. talents and guts against powermeter and science is a counter of two different cycling systems if you like. and it's still ON! We are looking forward to AC attacking on Bales already or making an ambush on stage 13.

 

[Singer01]

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It's a bit odd criticising Froome riding to prevent Contador winning, when Formigal was basically Contador burying himself for Quintana with almost no personal gain.

No personal gain? He moved from 6th to 4th, less than half a minute from 2nd.

But he was no closer to winning. He worked with Quintana to distance Froome but actually lost time on the race leader.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Why is Chris Froome being even mentioned in this thread for the great one...get that *** out of here

 

[deValtos]

Óscar Pereiro defends Contador again today against the Spanish media/fans who want him to retire. Calls Spain pathetic.

People need to let riders make their own choices, if you want to ride then ride. It's pretty simple.

 

[carton]

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But he was no closer to winning. He worked with Quintana to distance Froome but actually lost time on the race leader.

Quintana pulled up that whole final climb. If Contador had the legs he would've at least taking a few seconds on the lead, with an under the kite attack a la Vuelta 2014. He apparently cramped up.

Also, and I know some people like to believe that Contador doesn't ride for podiums, but he nearly got that as well. He was fairly upset when he lost it.

People need to let riders make their own choices, if you want to ride then ride. It's pretty simple.

QFT

 

[Angliru]

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It's a bit odd criticising Froome riding to prevent Contador winning, when Formigal was basically Contador burying himself for Quintana with almost no personal gain.

A stage win? Hopefully cracking Quintana and Froome in the process? No telling what time can be gained unless one tries. What if this was the day that Froome just blew up? Forgot to eat and bonked?

 

[Singer01]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me it seemed clear what the intention was, Contador did nothing to put Quintana in any trouble or suggest he was riding for the overall.
I'm not saying it wasn't awesome, but it looked a little bit tinged with spite to me.

 

[Red Rick]

I love how this thread has people calling Contador irrelevant when they try and use his name to talk their own riders up, rather then just go in their thread.

I also love that people take previously mentioned people seriously.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me it seemed clear what the intention was, Contador did nothing to put Quintana in any trouble or suggest he was riding for the overall.
I'm not saying it wasn't awesome, but it looked a little bit tinged with spite to me.

You think if he'd gotten Froome with him instead of Quintana, he wouldn't have pushed on?

 

[Angliru]

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me it seemed clear what the intention was, Contador did nothing to put Quintana in any trouble or suggest he was riding for the overall.
I'm not saying it wasn't awesome, but it looked a little bit tinged with spite to me.

Could it be that is how you wanted it be fueled and you can't see the difference? Would you prefer that riders be happy with their station in the peloton and not challenge the powers that be in a race? That would be quite boring!

 

[Taxus4a]

After his santion he has never been with the quality to win a Tour with the best at his best.
The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,
It is possible than instead Contador said he is at his best now, with very good numbers, and older people as Valverde are at his best, he is now already fading becouse his age. Just a little, but it possible. He has his chances in other races. He is good at strategy.