Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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I think the only really conservative win was the 2008 Giro. Even in the 2015 Giro when he was isolated all the time he made some comically aggressive moves.
You couldn't call the 2015 Giro "conservative." Yes, he made most of his time over Aru and Landa in the TT and had to defend from then on, but he was launching attack after attack on them on every mountain stage until they finally cracked him on Finestre, by which time he had enough of a lead that it was too late.
 
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You couldn't call the 2015 Giro "conservative." Yes, he made most of his time over Aru and Landa in the TT and had to defend from then on, but he was launching attack after attack on them on every mountain stage until they finally cracked him on Finestre, by which time he had enough of a lead that it was too late.
Loved that there was drama on every mountain stage ‘cause he was always so outnumbered. He even made losing time on Finestre exciting, especially since that’s the first time I’d ever seen the climb in a race.
 
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Loved that there was drama on every mountain stage ‘cause he was always so outnumbered. He even made losing time on Finestre exciting, especially since that’s the first time I’d ever seen the climb in a race.
My favorite single moment is Monte Ologno. Contador had no reason to attack, but Landa had a mechanical and Contador decided to literally nuke the first meter of that climb.
 
Well, I don't think Contador ever was "conservative". Even in his peak years. He attacked whenever he wanted irrespective of his advantage.
For sure, one might argue he was conservative at his 2010 Tour, but I find it kind of misleading, as I think it was just Schleck that was really impressive over there.
 
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I think what makes it intriguing is having 2 riders that are dominant, to where they go a mano v mano battle, where they both try to destroy the other. Then something like the 19 Giro, where a upstart takes advantage of the feud of 2 riders and then that puts the 2 riders forcing to be more aggressive.


Now as far as the topic about Contador's impressive levels (I am using this term literally) I dont necessarily rank his 2009 Tour as number 1, because his competition was not nearly as strong as some of the other grand tours. In 09 you had a almost 40 Lance, Bradly Wiggins when he first was transforming into a stage racer. Also in the Top 10 if I recall right was Le Mevel, Casar, Vande Velde had his best Tour finish. Plus the route wasn't very exciting as the previous years. I only thing that exhibited how strong his level that day was his TT win over Cancellara.

To me, his most impressive Level was the 11 Giro. HE was so far ahead of everyone, he was gifting stages (Which helped win the 12 Vuelta with the gift to Tiralongo.)

I think his level at the 07 Tour was most impressive of the 3 TDFs win, because he was able to Stop and Start so many times, it just Rasmussen was on the same climbing level as him.

The Giro 2015 is so hard to judge because he crashed in it twice and didn't win a stage if I recall right, but he did have 2 fight off the 2 headed Astana monster. I would say his level was better in the 2012 Vuelta. Its played off of the De Fuente victory that he was that good, but Purito was flying that Vuelta, and as we all know, Purito and Valverde always find their best form for the GT at the Vuelta.

So I would right now go with my list being
  1. Giro 2011
  2. Tour 2007
  3. Tour 2009
  4. Tour 2010
  5. Vuelta 2014
  6. Vuelta 2012
  7. Giro 2015
  8. Vuelta 2008
  9. Giro 2008
Tour 2009 was pretty good level-wise IMO, even though Evans and Menchov flopped big tome.

The top 10 was :
  1. Contador
  2. A.Schleck
  3. Armstrong
  4. Wiggins
  5. F.Schleck
  6. Kloden
  7. Nibali
  8. VandeVelde
  9. Kreuziger
  10. Le Mevel
I's say this looks like a decent enough top 10 (the top 7 is as good as it gets), even if you compare it to the Giro 2011.

What tips it in Tour 2009's favour IMO was Contador's TT win in Annecy. I know he beat Cancellara thanks to the little climb, but that was still a phenomenal performance.
 
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Well, I don't think Contador ever was "conservative". Even in his peak years. He attacked whenever he wanted irrespective of his advantage.
For sure, one might argue he was conservative at his 2010 Tour, but I find it kind of misleading, as I think it was just Schleck that was really impressive over there.
Yeah exactly. Contador attacked 4 times in the Tour 2010 (Mende once, Ax 3 Domaines twice, Tourmalet once), or 5 times if we count the Port de Balès climb. I think he only looked conservative in Morzine-Avoriaz and La Madeleine, but he had pretty bad legs in Morzine and due to this maybe he was just happy to manage to follow Andy in La Madeleine.
 
The guy was always just a bike racer who seemed to love it. Such a contrast to the snore-fest tactics he was often dealing with. I miss Alberto!
Alot of those races were dull because he was a fearful attacker. Most guys could probably only manage one response to his moves and then they'd still have to be strong enough to hold on or get dropped while the camera was on their tortured faces...
Better to lay low and let a team effort bring him back than look weak.
 
Alot of those races were dull because he was a fearful attacker. Most guys could probably only manage one response to his moves and then they'd still have to be strong enough to hold on or get dropped while the camera was on their tortured faces...
Better to lay low and let a team effort bring him back than look weak.
Oddly the folks I’m thinking of used the same boring tactics whether he was there or not... :D
 
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Back in 2012 when I got into cycling it was Contador and Froome I always liked. I know Froome gets lots of criticism but I think an unfair amount is towards him rather than the team itself. Contador was always the best one to watch, I remember his win on the Angliru in his last Vuelta was one of the my favorite stages ever and I was so happy for him.
 
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Back in 2012 when I got into cycling it was Contador and Froome I always liked. I know Froome gets lots of criticism but I think an unfair amount is towards him rather than the team itself. Contador was always the best one to watch, I remember his win on the Angliru in his last Vuelta was one of the my favorite stages ever and I was so happy for him.
I actually think it has more to do with the team. Those who don't like Froome probably didn't like Wiggins either.

I don't hate Froome anyway, mentioning that he went from an average rider to a world-class rider all of a sudden in the 2011 summer is just a fact. Good for him though, he will be remembered as one of the strongest cyclists of his generation.
 

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