Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[serfla]

Show me where contador ever said he was doing the giro.

Why are you twisting my words?
I wrote:

It's not me who was talking about the double just couple of days before...

Talking, not saying he's going to do it.
He was considering doing it, and stopped cosidering it when learned about Wiggo's decision.
You're worse than Flo.

A question for all Contador's fans: Are you, somehow, related to Contador or do you get paid for your activity here?
That would give some sense to your posts.

 

[Miburo]

the thing is i/we don't have any idea about froomey's maximum in the mountains.nothing.it was just the other day when he said he could have taken one minute on the others on toussuire. and he can definitely improve. tremendous also at itt, he will be very, very hard to beat.
and andy barring crashes,i really think he will reach his best form both in liege and le tour. he can be at the same level with alberto and chris in the mountains but again he will lose in the itt.

I can be wrong but i don't think Contador was ever really that concerned with AS.

Froome is way different, the dude is equal maybe even better at the ITT.

And at the mountains, well we don't know how good he's there exactly.

But unlike with AS Contador isn't sure that he has some margin against Froome considering ITT and that's a real issue. If he has a lead of 30 seconds, it's still unclear with Froome.

 

[LaFlorecita]

 

[the asian]

Who are his opponents in Oman?

Purito & Gesnik?

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

No bang bang again...

 

[LaFlorecita]

No bang bang again...

No time for bang bang

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Who are his opponents in Oman?

Purito & Gesnik?

rujano


....

 

[LaFlorecita]

DS Mauduit speaks

http://teamsaxotinkoff.com/ny_news.asp?n_id=3863

 

[gruppeto993]

isn't andy going to Oman?

 

[serfla]

isn't andy going to Oman?

No man.
10 char

 

[Miburo]

isn't andy going to Oman?

That's irrelevant, we're talking about possible contenders to win Oman, not about achieving last place

 

[sacrifice&hardwork]

No bang bang again...

Nope, but we take what we can get - on the podium

 

[sacrifice&hardwork]

Thanks LaFlo for the pictures
Maybe not all will agree but I like it when you post pictures of Alberto - it gives some life to this thread

 

[The Hitch]

Why are you twisting my words?
I wrote:
Talking, not saying he's going to do it.
He was considering doing it, and stopped cosidering it when learned about Wiggo's decision.
You're worse than Flo.

No he wasn't considering doing it. That was hot air based on a mistranslation. Contador himself always said it was unlikely he'd do the giro.

Back to the drawing board

 

[serfla]

No he wasn't considering doing it. That was hot air based on a mistranslation. Contador himself always said it was unlikely he'd do the giro.

Back to the drawing board

Link, please.
While you're searching, here's a reminder: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/con...ro-ditalia-and-tour-de-france-bid-at-san-luis
And another one: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-refuses-to-rule-out-riding-2013-giro-ditalia
He was, obviously, considering the double.

By the way, what are your sources? Those who claimed he'll do the Flanders?

 

[rhubroma]

I can be wrong but i don't think Contador was ever really that concerned with AS.

Froome is way different, the dude is equal maybe even better at the ITT.

And at the mountains, well we don't know how good he's there exactly.

But unlike with AS Contador isn't sure that he has some margin against Froome considering ITT and that's a real issue. If he has a lead of 30 seconds, it's still unclear with Froome.

Froome doesn't have the assassin's capacity of Contador, at least as far as I can tell. He still has much to proove.

 

[The Hitch]

Link, please.
While you're searching, here's a reminder: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/con...ro-ditalia-and-tour-de-france-bid-at-san-luis
And another one: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-refuses-to-rule-out-riding-2013-giro-ditalia
He was, obviously, considering the double.

By the way, what are your sources? Those who claimed he'll do the Flanders?

Its up to you to provide the links if your theory is that Contador was "considering the double".

id like to see the original comments in Spanish, not vague translations of 1 sentence by an organization that gets more wrong than right, which is all your first link offers.

the second link offers nothing. its from last year before the season was even over moreover its from the Giro presentation, where to show courtesy he refused to rule out doing the giro ( it was a month before he even met with his team to discuss what his 2013 season goals would be).

Ive seen and listened to several Contador interviews in recent months and in all of them he makes clear that the tour is the priority and that the team has other riders that can do the giro and the vuelta.

1 can be found at the bottom of this page

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=55700&tp=n

Another one can be seen here http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/ciclismo/ciclismo-entrevista-contador-20130107-1015-169/1643845/

so was Contador considering to do the giro. Youve shown absolutely nothing to suggest that he ever did.

back to the drawing board

 

[The Hitch]

I can be wrong but i don't think Contador was ever really that concerned with AS.

Froome is way different, the dude is equal maybe even better at the ITT.

And at the mountains, well we don't know how good he's there exactly.

But unlike with AS Contador isn't sure that he has some margin against Froome considering ITT and that's a real issue. If he has a lead of 30 seconds, it's still unclear with Froome.

Im hoping Andy is in good shape for the Tour so that him and Contador (if Andy isnt in some deluded world about how Contador screwed him) can work together to put time into everyone like in 2010.

 

[Jelantik]

Alberto has said he'll be focus on the tour. We'll now ... especially since Froome has said publicly that he can beat Alberto on this year tour.

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/cycling/tour-de-france/news/froome-i-can-beat-contador_66001.html

GAME ON! Can't wait for july.. Fireworks

 

[The Hitch]

Vid from the today's stage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97G2GclcoEk

(sorry if it has already been posted)

Lol love the commentators applauding diaz at the end.

 

[Froome19]

I can be wrong but i don't think Contador was ever really that concerned with AS.

When you have someone who can put time into you in the mountains I think he would be concerned.

 

[serfla]

Its up to you to provide the links if your theory is that Contador was "considering the double".

I did.

id like to see the original comments in Spanish, not vague translations of 1 sentence by an organization that gets more wrong than right, which is all your first link offers.

Well, provide the link. It was you who brought the "false translation" thesis up. You should support it.

the second link offers nothing. its from last year before the season was even over moreover its from the Giro presentation, where to show courtesy he refused to rule out doing the giro ( it was a month before he even met with his team to discuss what his 2013 season goals would be).

He wasn't always so courteous. There was the time when he was clearly acknowledging he won't ride the race right at the presentation.
It wasn't just courtesy.

Ive seen and listened to several Contador interviews in recent months and in all of them he makes clear that the tour is the priority and that the team has other riders that can do the giro and the vuelta.

1 can be found at the bottom of this page

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=55700&tp=n

Another one can be seen here http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/ciclismo/ciclismo-entrevista-contador-20130107-1015-169/1643845/

so was Contador considering to do the giro. Youve shown absolutely nothing to suggest that he ever did.

Simply - not true.

back to the drawing board

Your way of conversation is beyond my understanding of argumentative and polite discussion.
You're not showing respect to interlocutor, and often make depreciatory comments.

I understand that you have to distort reality in order to make it acceptable and compatible with your inner beliefs, but ignoring arguments and belittling other members is insolence.

Won't respond to you anymore. You're just one more irrational fan.
Continue to believe in whatever you want.

 

[The Hitch]

I did.


Well, provide the link. It was you who brought the "false translation" thesis up. You should support it.

.

I did. Here they are again

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/ciclismo/ciclismo-entrevista-contador-20130107-1015-169/1643845/

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=55700&tp=n

Simply - not true.

Whats not true?

There was the time when he was clearly acknowledging he won't ride the race right at the presentation.
It wasn't just courtesy.

I dont really get what you are saying. That before Contador would announce at the presentation that he wouldnt do the giro? Dont recall if he did in 2008 but in 2011 he refused to rule out doing the giro at the presetnation, then ruled out doing the giro shortly after.

When you have someone who can put time into you in the mountains I think he would be concerned.

Schleck has usually struggled to put time into Contador in the mountains. the only times it succeeded was on Morzine (where Contador told Navarro during the stage that he was feeling so bad he might lose minutes, but bluffed his way into only losing 10 seconds).

In 2011 Contador was already out of contention and had done the giro. Not that you seem to count 2011 anyway since earlier you said daiel diaz was the best climber last year in San luis.

So if you dont count 2011 what do you base your claim that Schleck can put time into Contador in the mountains on?

 

[Je ne sais quoi]

Alberto has said he'll be focus on the tour. We'll now ... especially since Froome has said publicly that he can beat Alberto on this year tour.

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/cycling/tour-de-france/news/froome-i-can-beat-contador_66001.html

GAME ON! Can't wait for july.. Fireworks

C Froome, from that article: "It is going to be hard work. I believe it is a harder ask than last year."

hehe. Gold. School me here, would this be English smack talk? (First AC, then BW, all in a couple of sentences...)

 

[peloton]

Who said that?
He should do the double. It's not me who was talking about the double just couple of days before Wiggins confirmed the Giro will be his main target.
He shouldn't talk if he didn't intend.
Wiggins will, at least, be there at the Tour.

I've responded to The Hitch, but it goes to all of you who've brought "Contador hasn't anything to prove" argument.
I know it's hard for fans to accept the idea that their idol isn't perfect, but
think about Cipo's "lack of machismo", and maybe you'll understand responsibilities of the greats and way to greatness.

Everything said about Contador, refers to Wiggins as well. Just like in the initial post.

Whaa, you do know he's won the Giro, officially too? Why should he waste his energy on that, when it's the 100th Tour, with a route pretty much made for him?
Also, he never said he was riding the Giro / Tour double, this year. Even my basic google skills managed that.

If Cipo is your point of reference, then that explains a lot...