Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[airstream]

That Contador didn't help Vino at all? Do you think that Moser was helped by Sagan in Strade?

AT ALL. There is a huge difference between real help and doing nothing for other. If someone had attacked and Contador had sat Vino on his wheel and towed him, it would have been real help. So it was nothing.

Airstream is the definition of the word troll. He supports whoever he needs to support to troll the Alberto fans, whether it is Andy, Wiggins, Froome, Vino or Kenny van Hummel and if there's no one to support he'll just bash Alberto and his fans to troll them. The fact that he believes Alberto should be shot in the head because of clinic reasons but has no problem with supporting "Alex" Valverde and Cobo says it all really

You overestimate your personal role on the forum otherwise you should look into the case from other viewpoint too. Contador fans troll other GC riders' fans f**ingly horrendously. And yet I never supported Alex, only Juanjo.

 

[Netserk]

AT ALL. There is a huge difference between real help and doing nothing for other. If someone had attacked and Contador had sat Vino on his wheel and towed him, it would have been real help. So it was nothing.


You overestimate your personal role on the forum otherwise you should look into the case from other viewpoint too. Contador fans troll other GC riders' fans f**ingly horrendously. And yet I never supported Alex, only Juanjo.

How about Sagan/Moser in Strade? No real help?

 

[airstream]

How about Sagan/Moser in Strade? No real help?

I haven't seen this race.

 

[Netserk]

I haven't seen this race.

Here is a short video (3'45) with the name: 'How The Race Was Won'

 

[airstream]

Here is a short video (3'45) with the name: 'How The Race Was Won'

Help? I don't see any help there. Apparently, Moser's team status allowed him to try. He tried and won.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Netserk, why do you even bother? the mofo will stick to his interpretion no matter what

 

[Netserk]

Help? I don't see any help there. Apparently, Moser's team status allowed him to try. He tried and won.

Did you catch the catch-22 reference in the clip? That shows the magnitude of Sagan's help.

 

[airstream]

Here is a short video (3'45) with the name: 'How The Race Was Won'

I'm sorry I can be wrong. This clip doesn't give proper impression to make correct conclusion.

 

[Netserk]

I'm sorry I can be wrong. This clip doesn't give proper impression to make correct conclusion.

In the final after Moser had attacked, Sagan marked all the other moves without taking any pulls. Because Sagan has such a good finish, nobody wanted to drag him to the line. In the end it meant that many of the chasers ended up looking at each other instead of catching Moser. No Sagan = no Moser victory.

 

[spalco]

they were racing as a team, just like moser and sagan last saturday.

a good and neutral review of the race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3rWBvlRLZM

That's really good. This guy knows his stuff. I'll have to remember to watch his videos in the future.

 

[Netserk]

That's really good. This guy knows his stuff. I'll have to remember to watch his videos in the future.

My favourite of all his video was also the only one that have been taken down.. (because of copyright issues) It was about the Mende finish in 2010.

Cyclocosm is truly great.

 

[Carols]

Bertie admitting age is becoming a factor....it always does

Froome and Contador, in any case, will cross swords this week again in Tirreno-Adriatico, where Contador says he “hopes to be fighting for the overall triumph.” He admitted, though, that “with age, it’s harder to get top form. I will try to win but this year the level of competition in Tirreno is going to be very high, everybody’s chosen that race. That’s good and personally motivates me, but it’s a race I don’t know, one that I’ve never taken part in.”

 

[Publicus]

Bertie admitting age is becoming a factor....it always does

Froome and Contador, in any case, will cross swords this week again in Tirreno-Adriatico, where Contador says he “hopes to be fighting for the overall triumph.” He admitted, though, that “with age, it’s harder to get top form. I will try to win but this year the level of competition in Tirreno is going to be very high, everybody’s chosen that race. That’s good and personally motivates me, but it’s a race I don’t know, one that I’ve never taken part in.”

At least he recognizes it is a factor, many delude themselves that age is not a factor. Hopefully he is looking for ways to continue to win. That's (adaptability) one of the marks of greatness in my opinion.

 

[Carols]

At least he recognizes it is a factor, many delude themselves that age is not a factor. Hopefully he is looking for ways to continue to win. That's (adaptability) one of the marks of greatness in my opinion.

He has enough race savvy to be creative in finding ways to win....witness Fuente De

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

Bertie admitting age is becoming a factor....it always does

Froome and Contador, in any case, will cross swords this week again in Tirreno-Adriatico, where Contador says he “hopes to be fighting for the overall triumph.” He admitted, though, that “with age, it’s harder to get top form. I will try to win but this year the level of competition in Tirreno is going to be very high, everybody’s chosen that race. That’s good and personally motivates me, but it’s a race I don’t know, one that I’ve never taken part in.”

Surely 30 isn't old though? Armstrong, Evans and Wiggins were all around three years older than that when they won the Tour? Also Purito keeps getting better.

 

[Carols]

Surely 30 isn't old though? Armstrong, Evans and Wiggins were all around three years older than that when they won the Tour? Also Purito keeps getting better.

It's old enough for Bertie to find it more difficult to find his form.....

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

It's old enough for Bertie to find it more difficult to find his form.....

Ah, I see the distinction now. I'm sure he will find his top form when it matters!

 

[Forunculo]

It's old enough for Bertie to find it more difficult to find his form.....

That's pretty normal, he isn't 25 anymore. But it's his work.

I guess Cadel Evans has to work more than twice than other riders.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Berto I hope he's sandbagging

 

[xrayvision]

Help? I don't see any help there. Apparently, Moser's team status allowed him to try. He tried and won.

It´s ok, admitting to have no knowledge what so ever about cycling, it´s cool bro.

 

[Publicus]

Berto I hope he's sandbagging

You are fairly young right? I assume under 25. He's not sandbagging so much as admitting the obvious, it gets harder to get to your top physical shape as you get older. You'll notice it soon enough--as the saying goes, time waits for no one.

 

[airstream]

It´s ok, admitting to have no knowledge what so ever about cycling, it´s cool bro.

I'm sorry to have joined the community of such outstanding cycling experts like you, Sir.

 

[Miburo]

Why are you guys taking Contador's talk about his age so serious?

I doubt it's the case, Contador will use any argument possible to downplay his chances.

He said he want to be better than the way he was in the giro '11

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Why are you guys taking Contador's talk about his age so serious?

I doubt it's the case, Contador will use any argument possible to downplay his chances.

He said he want to be better than the way he was in the giro '11

Why can't you be objective for once? people do turn old.

 

[Miburo]

Why can't you be objective for once? people do turn old.

I guess you didn't see the contradiction Contador put up. Read my post again.