Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

"Yes, you will." "No, I won't."

You know, five-year-olds actually aren't allowed to post here....

Susan

I will show myself the way out then.

 

[Arnout]

I'm more than willing to help in case you can't find the door.

 

[Publicus]

I think this article from cyclingnews pretty much clears up the question of whether his knee was the factor that caused him to lose time (it wasn't). [From discussion started in Andy Schleck Discussion Thread]

"It wasn't a good day for me, I just didn't have the strength in the last 10 kilometres," he said in the finish. "I felt a terrible weakness. The last few kilometres were really hard. I don't know if I just blew up - I was able to follow wheels but in the end, I decided to climb at my own rhythm."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contadors-tour-de-france-victory-hopes-dashed-on-galibier

From what I recall, he didn't look good at all during the stage. The fact that he didn't jump on Andy's wheel on his initial attack told me he didn't have it that day.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I think this article from cyclingnews pretty much clears up the question of whether his knee was the factor that caused him to lose time (it wasn't). [From discussion started in Andy Schleck Discussion Thread]

Thanks for clearing that up.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contadors-tour-de-france-victory-hopes-dashed-on-galibier

From what I recall, he didn't look good at all during the stage. The fact that he didn't jump on Andy's wheel on his initial attack told me he didn't have it that day.

To be honest he didn't have it the entire race.

 

[OctaBech]

I think this article from cyclingnews pretty much clears up the question of whether his knee was the factor that caused him to lose time (it wasn't). [From discussion started in Andy Schleck Discussion Thread]



http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contadors-tour-de-france-victory-hopes-dashed-on-galibier

From what I recall, he didn't look good at all during the stage. The fact that he didn't jump on Andy's wheel on his initial attack told me he didn't have it that day.

I'd argue that the knee was an indirect cause, as it prevented him from using the first two weeks to recoup from the Giro. He simply never hit the form during that TdF.

 

[Carols]

He came into the race fatigued, crashed multiple times causing injuries and didn't recover enough to be anywhere near effective until Gap. Jeez the man was riding lame, just compare his normal action to what you were seeing.

From the Gap stage on he rode with a much more normal pedaling style and hence attacked and attacked.....while it didn't get him a podium or stage win it certainly affected everyone else in the race and he made the race darned exciting!

 

[airstream]

He came into the race fatigued, crashed multiple times causing injuries and didn't recover enough to be anywhere near effective until Gap. Jeez the man was riding lame, just compare his normal action to what you were seeing.

From the Gap stage on he rode with a much more normal pedaling style and hence attacked and attacked.....while it didn't get him a podium or stage win it certainly affected everyone else in the race and he made the race darned exciting!

It's a limitless debate as one's action is always predetermined by opponents' preparedness (shape, fit). The conventional wisdom is Contador was allegedly weaker than usual in 2010 that gave the rivals a chance. It's unprobable and just wrong the bottom of things because such a point takes into consideration the only thing - Contador and his perfomance visually - and doesn't look up to the opponents whatsoever. He could easily be the same, but the opposition got stronger. But most of the forum prefers to ignore that opinion.

 

[Carols]

It's a limitless debate as one's action is always predetermined by opponents' preparedness (shape, fit). The conventional wisdom is Contador was allegedly weaker than usual in 2010 that gave the rivals a chance. It's unprobable and just wrong the bottom of things because such a point takes into consideration the only thing - Contador and his perfomance visually - and doesn't look up to the opponents whatsoever. He could easily be the same, but the opposition got stronger. But most of the forum prefers to ignore that opinion.

But he was Not the same if you compare his pedaling style after the crashes to either before them or in the 3rd week...he was pedaling one legged. But some will Chose to not see that

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, I won't.

Ah **** this I cannot not fangirl Alberto.

That said: GO RUI!!!!!

 

[Red Rick]

LaFlorecita, stop carrying on like an idiot! People would just rather a bit more variety. I copped much worse than you have on Cadel than you have for Alberto. Toughen up!

People like variety yes, but if that means varying entertaining and attacking winners with the "make sure nothing happens and i'll smoke the TT" winners i'm very sure variety is the thing i just don't want

 

[Bala Verde]

Ah **** this I cannot not fangirl Alberto.

That said: GO RUI!!!!!

No off topic posting.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No off topic posting.

Lol I can't say go Alberto now can I?

 

[Bala Verde]

Lol I can't say go Alberto now can I?

Say it in the thread where it belongs.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Say it in the thread where it belongs.

Sigh.............

 

[Fidolix]

"Yes, you will." "No, I won't."

You know, five-year-olds actually aren't allowed to post here....

Susan

And as an administrator you should hold your self neutral Susan, I don´t think it´s suited for someone in your position to post derogatory personal comments about LaFlorecita´s age since you actually know she´s not five yo, if you not happy about her posts or comments, I suggest you take it to pm.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

A moderator shouldn't moderate? That's a new one to me.

Susan

 

[Fidolix]

A moderator shouldn't moderate? That's a new one to me.

Susan

It´s not the issue if you moderate or not, the issue is how you do it...
But I see from your answer you just like to be condescending, don´t know if it make you feel better or look smarter, but I guess it does.

 

[Arnout]

And then Ryo gets banned for saying girls are dramaqueens. Proof in the 20 posts above me (not talking about you Susan, in case its not clear ).

 

[Fidolix]

LaFlo is a wise woman


Stage 17 of Tour 2009, the best stage brothers have done as a pair.

loool yeah, with Riis.... do I need to say more?

 

[LaFlorecita]

It´s not the issue if you moderate or not, the issue is how you do it...
But I see from your answer you just like to be condescending, don´t know if it make you feel better or look smarter, but I guess it does.

Don't bother. Susan is actually a really pleasant individual if she isn't moderating. I'm sure she isn't as emotionless as she comes across.

 

[LaFlorecita]

And then Ryo gets banned for saying girls are dramaqueens. Proof in the 20 posts above me (not talking about you Susan, in case its not clear ).

Excuse me, I must be mistaken. You're not talking about me now are you?

 

[LaFlorecita]

loool yeah, with Riis.... do I need to say more?

Andy did his best Tours with Bjarne... Maybe he should go back (and be domestique for Alberto )

 

[Fidolix]

Don't bother. Susan is actually a really pleasant individual if she isn't moderating. I'm sure she isn't as emotionless as she comes across.

Don´t worry, it´s not something I´m gonna spend much time on, and I¨m sure Susan is a nice person to, and nobody is perfect.

 

[Arnout]

Excuse me, I must be mistaken. You're not talking about me now are you?

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Don't worry, it will happen never again. I'm not going to post Alberto anymore because apparently the forum doesn't appreciate Alberto fans, everyone needs to hate him. Luckily there is still some other place where I am allowed to post about Alberto.

Okay I get it Susan. No other thread about Alberto is allowed. Not even posts about Alberto are allowed outside of this thread. And we can have 10000s of threads about Andy, Wiggo, etc?

Nevermind, it doesn't matter. I will be a regular cycling fan from now on so that I don't have to deal with dozens of restrictions.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Don´t worry, it´s not something I´m gonna spend much time on, and I¨m sure Susan is a nice person to, and nobody is perfect.

Of course. For example in the cat thread she seems really nice with her kitties (or kitty).