Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[airstream]

I wish all Contador fans to take a possible loss with dignity

 

[Miburo]

I wish all Contador fans to take a possible loss with dignity in the clinic

fixed it for you

 

[airstream]

fixed it for you

you are just a funny kid who is not able to appreciate other riders' effort, talent and results. a lot of negative emotions await you if you won't be able to change your view. gonna suffer from Froome's domination? - go ahead.

 

[ILovecycling]

I wish all Contador fans to take a possible loss with dignity

As for me,I will,dont worry.

 

[Cimber]

you are just a funny kid who is not able to appreciate other riders' effort, talent and results. a lot of negative emotions await you if you won't be able to change your view. gonna suffer from Froome's domination? - go ahead.

Last autumn you wrote the following: "I never liked domninators". Does that mean we can expect you to root for Contador soon and dislike sky/Froome ?

 

[Le Baroudeur]

I wish all Contador fans to take a possible loss with dignity

It is very apparent by your posting that you have no comprehension of the word 'Dignity', and that you probibly have far more comprehension of the words flamebaiter and troll.

 

[Eshnar]

How people can still quote a post I deleted 5 minutes ago is beyond me.

Get back on topic guys

 

[Le Baroudeur]

In 2009 he had his whole team against him. In 2010 he had a good part of the cycling world against him after chaingate. In 2011 despite facing suspension he destroyed the giro. In 2012 he won the vuelta despite not being the best with a crazy move.

How can i not have believe in this man? Crush the skyborgs in july, show them what it is to face a real climber.

Alien vs Predator, maybe his biggest challenge but isn't that what champions live for?

I have a strong feeling that this tour will once again show that there is more to winning than just condition and physiology, however, I'm still confident the team will have timed the training correctly for the task.

My only slight concern is that the whole team is down on there usual TT abilities again this season. They changed a few things a while back and we haven't really seen any rewards yet.

 

[trevim]

I have a strong feeling that this tour will once again show that there is more to winning than just condition and physiology.

The Tour usually doesn't test the tactical side of racing: it's more about pure strength. Now if only they could invent some of that 240km stages the Giro has, with no big climbs but very technical finishing descents and short sharp climbs. This way it's just: don't crash on the flat stages, play it on the TT and defend in the mountain stages. The end.
PS.: I hope you're right though

 

[Taxus4a]

In 2009 he had his whole team against him. In 2010 he had a good part of the cycling world against him after chaingate. In 2011 despite facing suspension he destroyed the giro. In 2012 he won the vuelta despite not being the best with a crazy move.

How can i not have believe in this man? Crush the skyborgs in july, show them what it is to face a real climber.

Alien vs Predator, maybe his biggest challenge but isn't that what champions live for?

It sound very poetic...

I have seen always another reality with Contador. He was always in the wrong place in the wrong time, according his own words, and he always was riding, till a positive... while has the luck than others riders where affect by OP and he could get a lot of races since young, and with the main oponent, younger.

Who has everybody behind is he, a demostrated lier, and who has all the people againt him is Froome, and has had a very bad luck in his career, for his big potential, he is a very good person and he is seen as a cyborg, or a cheater, or something bad,...

Maybe I see things like this to see it from Spain, at least in forums.. more expert people inside cycling thinks other way, even in Spain...

And Alberto could be a real problem for Froome, it could be fanny, but those stories of bad and good ones...very subjetives.

 

[Parrulo]

You have been on the forum long enough now and no longer have any excuses.

Next time you post clinic related stuff on this section of the forum you will be banned.

 

[TANK91]

Yes I agree, Alberto is awesome

Best climber in the world.

One of the best time trialists in the world.

This year an off-year I am sure.

Next year he will be back to kick some dawg ***.

In your dreams Flo, come on you no im right lol. Na i hope Contador does fly again as it would be a crying shame when he finishes, it will be what ifs as like you say it does not have the same ring to it 2TDF, even if he dint get the TDF took away and he finished with 3 i still think for his talent he should win more if he fails to win another GT.

Imo the guy is a legend yet most GT legends have more than 3 TDF, although most dont have more than multiple GT's at every GT.

If he looses in a real bad way(crushed in the mountains) do you think he should go for the Giro and Vuelta for the last few years.

I think it would be class if he could win another 2 Giro's and 2 Vuelta's that would be 9 in the history books, but 10 in our minds as Giro 11 he ovi won.

Im sorry though Froome is the best how can anyone not like this guy this year he as dominated the best GC rider of the modern era, even Schleck could not do that, Froome is the buissnes end of convo.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

It sound very poetic...

I have seen always another reality with Contador. He was always in the wrong place in the wrong time, according his own words, and he always was riding, till a positive... while has the luck than others riders where affect by OP and he could get a lot of races since young, and with the main oponent, younger.

Who has everybody behind is he, a demostrated lier, and who has all the people againt him is Froome, and has had a very bad luck in his career, for his big potential, he is a very good person and he is seen as a cyborg, or a cheater, or something bad,...

Maybe I see things like this to see it from Spain, at least in forums.. more expert people inside cycling thinks other way, even in Spain...

And Alberto could be a real problem for Froome, it could be fanny, but those stories of bad and good ones...very subjetives.

So no one takes you seriously over there in foro, atleast here people still respond to your thread be happy it's the weekend.

 

[LaFlorecita]

In your dreams Flo, come on you no im right lol. Na i hope Contador does fly again as it would be a crying shame when he finishes, it will be what ifs as like you say it does not have the same ring to it 2TDF, even if he dint get the TDF took away and he finished with 3 i still think for his talent he should win more if he fails to win another GT.

Imo the guy is a legend yet most GT legends have more than 3 TDF, although most dont have more than multiple GT's at every GT.

If he looses in a real bad way(crushed in the mountains) do you think he should go for the Giro and Vuelta for the last few years.

I think it would be class if he could win another 2 Giro's and 2 Vuelta's that would be 9 in the history books, but 10 in our minds as Giro 11 he ovi won.

Im sorry though Froome is the best how can anyone not like this guy this year he as dominated the best GC rider of the modern era, even Schleck could not do that, Froome is the buissnes end of convo.

Look is was a great post until your last sentence. Now I won't even comment on your point because that last sentence makes the whole post ridiculous. That seems to be the pattern with you, more or less valid points mixed with ridiculous troll/fanboy sentences.

 

[LaFlorecita]

So noone takes you seriously over there in foro, atleast here people still respond to your thread be happy it's the weekend.

Yea I don't take him seriously anymore. Constantly "Froome is so much better and more talented omfg he is the best drool drool and Alberto is a *clinic clinic clinic* all his wins are because of *clinic* and froome had so many setbacks and now we see his real potential omg victory for clean cycling".

 

[TANK91]

Yea I don't take him seriously anymore. Constantly "Froome is so much better and more talented omfg he is the best drool drool and Alberto is a *clinic clinic clinic* all his wins are because of *clinic* and froome had so many setbacks and now we see his real potential omg victory for clean cycling".

Wow you call me troll yet im stating facts and you said in a post before Alberto is better alberto this and that, and you call me trolling, wow.

I understand it may seem harsh, but what did i write wrong, im cheering for Froome in the TDF, i want to see him win a GT he as been robbed.

I gave Contador his props he is THE BEST GT RIDER OF HIS ERA, did you not get the message, anyway i give up with you i actually was getting on with most fans of Contador yet im TROLL lol.

I just feel what Froome is doing to Contador as never been done before, if Contador becomes victorious then fine(im not a hater). But dont even reply, all because i wrote the truth huh.

 

[TANK91]

Contador is yet to beat Froome this year, its unique, yet im trolling. It's not just the GC im on about stage's, how many stages as Contador finished ahead, i can only remember 1, the Tirreno stage Nibali won. So im not trolling im just saying Froome as dominated him. Dominated may seem to strong a word to you though. I thought what i said was perfectly normal la flo and u bait me for no reason. Ah well.

 

[Jelantik]

Contador is yet to beat Froome this year, its unique, yet im trolling. It's not just the GC im on about stage's, how many stages as Contador finished ahead, i can only remember 1, the Tirreno stage Nibali won. So im not trolling im just saying Froome as dominated him. Dominated may seem to strong a word to you though. I thought what i said was perfectly normal la flo and u bait me for no reason. Ah well.

your point is fair enough. You observation was based on Froome performance so far this year. And based on the fact Froome and heck yeah even wiggins, did something that Alberto hasn't done previously; "peak all year long and won every prestigious race they entered." (especially wiggins 2012) But that's about it, at least for now. None of them (true to the case of wiggins) has won GT more than one, and heck, even achieve giro, vuelta, tdf in 15 months.

For me the question about Froome is dominating, is a little subjective. Because it's hard to judge based on how their actually performance are in the race prior to GT. There's always this excuse, too fat, not contest for winning it, prior sickness, not in good form etc. etc. And also vice versa to be said about Froome, he was only 85% either. If the comparison is drawn during GT race, then there's no whada, couldda, shouldda unless it's sickness or crashing out. That's what they train for and their major goal anyway.

For now, yes, based on one week races, Froome is dominating. Because so far that's what he achieved. I don't think everyone would put a stamp on Froome as dominating, if he can't win what matter the most: TDF. He is on his way and closer than contador's chance for sure. But none of his win is a guarantee either, it's just "his change to win" is close to 100% more likely with how he performs so far. 10 years from now, everyone only remembers how many GT indurain, hinault and the rest of the cycling pantheon have achieved. just my IMO.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Tank91 what you seem to ignore is that Alberto is nowhere near his best this year. You say Froome is awesome and a BOSS because he dominates Alberto (it has never been done before) Trust me, if Alberto was even near his best form Froome wouldn't be bossing anyone.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Wow you call me troll yet im stating facts and you said in a post before Alberto is better alberto this and that, and you call me trolling, wow.

I understand it may seem harsh, but what did i write wrong, im cheering for Froome in the TDF, i want to see him win a GT he as been robbed.

I gave Contador his props he is THE BEST GT RIDER OF HIS ERA, did you not get the message, anyway i give up with you i actually was getting on with most fans of Contador yet im TROLL lol.

I just feel what Froome is doing to Contador as never been done before, if Contador becomes victorious then fine(im not a hater). But dont even reply, all because i wrote the truth huh.

Lol don't be ridiculous, you only did that to make Froome's winning streak even better.

 

[ILovecycling]

Lol don't be ridiculous, you only did that to make Froome's winning streak even better.

Good one

 

[TANK91]

Tank91 what you seem to ignore is that Alberto is nowhere near his best this year. You say Froome is awesome and a BOSS because he dominates Alberto (it has never been done before) Trust me, if Alberto was even near his best form Froome wouldn't be bossing anyone.

I know im not trolling its just suprising aint it, like you say Contador is not at his best,does that make Froome worst, i dont think so. I got into Cycling in 05 and My fav GC rider was Basso against Lance. Im obviously going to support Froome, but you dont see me chearing like a fanboy.

So it's not like im just jumping on the bandwagon of Froome, you supported Contador because he was a class act uphill, also attacked and was a fighter, is that correct? So you cant blame me for really rooting for him, i like him alot i know their is???? but since 11 he as been winning stages and he is not suspicious.

I just respect how good Froome is, to be beating Alberto it is unique(i know you love Berto so you sad) even if as you say he is not as good, Froome is still very strong, and we have not seen the best of him imho, im sure you'd agree we have not seen Froome really unleashed yet, so we dont really no.

What would be great is Alberto to be leading bye 2mins before the mountains and then we can see them mano mano uphill. I just dont want you thinking im a troll because im not. It's just you seem to bite at one sentance that you dont like to hear imo, you agreed with most and then took the 1 sentance that i said was mildly wrong. Anyway sorry for the long post but i dint ment to offend you.

 

[TANK91]

@i love cycling i dont no how you agree, i did not knock Contador. Maybe in my tone dominating may mean a stronger term what i meant too say throughout Cycling in Contador's carear, their was only Schleck who was even in the conversation, Yet he sucked at ITT.

Now for the first time so far in his carear he is getting beat(not in the tdf yet) bye a rider who is percieved as stronger in both disciplines, what am i meant too say, Jelantik(hope i spelt your name right) could see some points i said was true and dint call me a troll.

I am surely also praising Contador bye saying it is unique for him to get beat( which is true) as since 07 he is the best GT rider.

I just don't get that i can express my opinion when 1. i was not trolling and 2. its not rocket science to see im telling the truth based on this year, but people just say Contador is not good. If their was no Froome on this planet and Contador wins the TDF i bet no one says he is not as strong, but back to my point about being UNIQUE shows how good Froome's level is to be the first rider who is fav. So last time lol unique.

 

[LaFlorecita]

If their was no Froome on this planet and Contador wins the TDF i bet no one says he is not as strong

because it's normal for Alberto to get beaten by Kwiatkowski and Papy horner, Of course.

 

[airstream]

because it's normal for Alberto to get beaten by Kwiatkowski and Papy horner, Of course.

A rider is strong as much as his opponents let him be strong. Deal with it. Contador cannot beat Horner? It's his problems. It doesn't care Horner, other riders and by and large doesnt care Contador too, because it's irrelevant how strong he was before. He must prove how strong he is NOW.