Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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Nilsson

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LaFlorecita said:
Rory instead of Michael.
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I like Rory, but Morkov will be an important rider. If only Bertie would allow to replace Jesus and Paulinho, who haven't performed this year and are kind of in decline for a while now, it would create more options. Maybe Oleg can bring/force some 'enlightment', because Bjarne clearly can't (even chubby Benjamin was a certainty).

Jesus can be an awesome roomie without actually taking part in the race, right? Let him do his thing outside of the race and, for instance, the recon in front of the race each day and brief Alberto, who he knows by heart, what the gameplan is.
 
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LaFlorecita

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Nilsson said:
I like Rory, but Morkov will be an important rider.
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With Tosatto, Bennati and Breschel they'd have 3 flat domestiques, 2 allround with Sutherland and Rogers, and three climbers (Kreuziger, Hernandez and Paulinho). 4 flat doms seems a bit of an overkill. I'd prefer another allrounder like Sutherland.

If only Bertie would allow to replace Jesus and Paulinho, who haven't performed this year and are kind of in decline for a while now, it would create more options. Maybe Oleg can bring/force some 'enlightment', because Bjarne clearly can't (even chubby Benjamin was a certainty).
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Paulinho and especially Hernandez are vital for Contador feeling well. Besides that, Paulinho was a beast at la Vuelta 2012 during the Fuente De stage, and as someone on Velorooms pointed out to me, Hernandez is a great climber and actually finished together with Kreuziger (top 10) on the last MTF of last year's Tour.

Jesus can be an awesome roomie without actually taking part in the race, right? Let him do his thing outside of the race and, for instance, the recon in front of the race each day and brief Alberto, who he knows by heart, what the gameplan is.
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They're never going to take Hernandez to the race as dead weight. He is either going there to race, or he's not going at all.
 
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murali

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Jelantik said:
I don't know if everyone notice. Looks like, the rest of TS boys start producing good results starting this second part of the season.
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I think saxo guys were relying too much on the points earned by AC earlier. It was as if AC was carrying the entire weight of team on his shoulders.
The demand for others to perform seems to be a shift in the team focus.

If u ask me, this is very good for AC. When he is not the only bread-winner, he can pick and choose what he wants instead of being forced to do what is needed to survive.
 
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murali

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LaFlorecita said:
With Tosatto, Bennati and Breschel they'd have 3 flat domestiques, 2 allround with Sutherland and Rogers, and three climbers (Kreuziger, Hernandez and Paulinho). 4 flat doms seems a bit of an overkill. I'd prefer another allrounder like Sutherland.



Paulinho and especially Hernandez are vital for Contador feeling well. Besides that, Paulinho was a beast at la Vuelta 2012 during the Fuente De stage, and as someone on Velorooms pointed out to me, Hernandez is a great climber and actually finished together with Kreuziger (top 10) on the last MTF of last year's Tour.
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i think you like 3-2-3 a lot :)
Thing with Paulinho and Hernandez is that they are the main guys who can be with Berto in every stage. Rogers adds weight to their effort, not the other way around. They are also the guys who ensure tht they lose time so tht GC guys dont care much abt them in any break.

With Rogers and Roche, ppl expect them to be GC riders or stage hunters even if that's not their role.
 
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Netserk

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So Paulinho is a climber, while Rogers is an all-rounder? :eek:

Imo so far the most likely riders to participate ranked:

Contador
Kreuziger
Rogers
Roche
Bennati
Tosatto
Hernandez
Paulinho
Moerkoev
Breschel
Sutherland
Soerensen
 
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murali

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Netserk said:
So Paulinho is a climber, while Rogers is an all-rounder? :eek:

Imo so far the most likely riders to participate ranked:

Contador
Kreuziger
Rogers
Roche
Bennati
Tosatto
Hernandez
Paulinho
Moerkoev
Breschel
Sutherland
Soerensen
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CAS. he had left Giro midway.
 
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Kokoso

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Netserk said:
So Paulinho is a climber, while Rogers is an all-rounder? :eek:

Imo so far the most likely riders to participate ranked:

Contador
Kreuziger
Rogers
Roche
Bennati
Tosatto
Hernandez
Paulinho
Moerkoev
Breschel
Sutherland
Soerensen
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That makes tvelwe. Impossible. Only if some participate as cooks, psychologist or whatever - then the race would be lost but. :) My nine of black (and yellow) riders is at the moment:

Contador
Kreuziger
Rogers
Bennati
Tosatto
Hernandez
Paulinho
Moerkoev
Sutherland
 
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murali

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Kokoso said:
That makes tvelwe. Impossible. Only if some participate as cooks, psychologist or whatever - then the race would be lost but. :) My nine of black (and yellow) riders is at the moment:

Contador
Kreuziger
Rogers
Bennati
Tosatto
Hernandez
Paulinho
Moerkoev
Sutherland
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I thought Roche did Giro so that he can peak for TdF.
 
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Netserk

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Kokoso said:
That makes tvelwe. Impossible.
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Duh. I ranked them after how likely it would be for them to be selected. It was never meant as to say which nine riders the team should select. The reason the rest of the squad isn't on the list, is because I don't think anyone else has a chance (barring injuries).
 
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Kokoso

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murali said:
I think saxo guys were relying too much on the points earned by AC earlier. It was as if AC was carrying the entire weight of team on his shoulders.
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Looks like you are forgetting Kreuziger. He seems to understand the need of earning points and is decent as ever.
 
LaFlorecita

LaFlorecita

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Kokoso said:
That makes tvelwe. Impossible. Only if some participate as cooks, psychologist or whatever - then the race would be lost but. :) My nine of black (and yellow) riders is at the moment:

Contador
Kreuziger
Rogers
Bennati
Tosatto
Hernandez
Paulinho
Moerkoev
Sutherland
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This is the team I'd go for, maybe Matti in for M
 
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Not for Le Tour, obviously, but looking at Tinkoff - Saxo's roster in conjunction with reading this thread makes me idly wonder when the young Danes Michael Valgren Andersen and Jesper Hansen are going to get their first GT call-ups. They've both been going pretty well this year.
 
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Very good performance by Alberto today.Froome in some crazy form tho.Still best from 2011.(AC)
I expect AC to hold Froome's wheel easily tomorrow (maybe a loss in final sprint etc) and little attack on penultimate stage.
Alberto looks good.Tour will be good,I know it.;)
 
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murali

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LaFlorecita said:
Uhm yes. Rogers is way more useful on the flat than Paulinho. That I ranked him as allround and Paulinho as a climber doesn't mean I think Paulinho is a better climber.
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imho, there is nothing to choose between them in a MTF.
 
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