Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[arvc40]

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[May0maniac]

A minute in a TT like Mont St.Michél , yeah. Then in the semi mountain TT a 2014 Contador would have dominated the 2013 Froome who won by 9 seconds in front of a 2013 Contador. Mountain TT's are Contador's no.1 territory. Probably taken the time back or almost.
Alpe d'Huez - good night dear opponent, if Alberto sees you eating and riding all over the place with 4-5 km to go.
Le Grand-Bornand - nobody did attack. Good descent finish - ideal for a Contador attack.
Then Semnoz - third opportunity to take time back.

That luxury to have a big cushion and the opponents riding for 2nd place...that dip in form after 2 weeks...Alberto penalises things like that. With Contador in top shape you have to be 100% perfect to beat him. 100%.

Yes, Froome was not unbeatable in the 2013 TDF, even Nibali in 2013 Giro form would have been a big problem for him in the third week. If both are in top form i have to pick Contador over Froome, Alberto has panache an was able to win a GT when he wasn't the strongest Rider in 2012, Froomes only knows to crush people with brute stengh.

 

[sir fly]

We, actually, don't know Contador's true level after the 2011 Giro.
And we're hoping Froome can reach his 2013 peak again...
Hard to estimate.

But I'm highly confident Froome isn't the double material.
Any double, to be precise.

 

[peloton]

We, actually, don't know Contador's true level after the 2011 Giro.

What?
He's won 2 GT's since that Giro. One with great tactics and the other after recovering from a fractured leg.

Pretty sure we know his true level

 

[sir fly]

What?
He's won 2 GT's since that Giro. One with great tactics and the other after recovering from a fractured leg.

Pretty sure we know his true level

Is it higher than 2011.?
Lower?

 

[ILovecycling]

Is it higher than 2011.?
Lower?

Higher.


ten ch

 

[LaFlorecita]

Is it higher than 2011.?
Lower?

Same or slightly higher

 

[ferryman]

Is it higher than 2011.?
Lower?

High enough.

 

[sir fly]

Where does this year's Vuelta stand comparing to 2011 Giro and the Tour?

 

[BlurryVII]

Where does this year's Vuelta stand comparing to 2011 Giro and the Tour?

AC's 2014 season > AC's 2011 season

And pretty sure AC Tour 14' > AC Giro 11'

Also, don't forget he crashed out 3 or 4 times at the Tour 11' and that the Giro's route was much harder

I think it's a wise thing to say that he has all his chances to do the double.

 

[cineteq]

I think it's a wise thing to say that he [Contador] has all his chances to do the double.

What a joke. Not even Nibali would be able to do it.

Seriously, the only rider with the capability to win 2 consecutive GTs next year is Nairo Quintana.

 

[BlurryVII]

What a joke. Not even Nibali would be able to do it.

But the question is: would he be able to win at least one against decent rivals?

 

[cineteq]

But the question is: would he be able to win at least one against decent rivals?

Let his ride do the talking. But the real question is: will his main rivals be able to finish a GT against him? We all know what happened in 2014.

 

[Angliru]

What a joke. Not even Nibali would be able to do it.

Seriously, the only rider with the capability to win 2 consecutive GTs next year is Nairo Quintana.

Only three of the current grand tour contenders have shown the ability to be anywhere near the podium in back-to-back grand tours. Quintana has yet to prove to be one of them.

 

[cineteq]

Only three of the current grand tour contenders have shown the ability to be anywhere near the podium in back-to-back grand tours. Quintana has yet to prove to be one of them.

Who and when? Btw, I was talking about Quintana's capabilities. Anyway I stand for what I said: In 2015 Nairo's the only one.

 

[Jspear]

Let his ride do the talking. But the real question is: will his main rivals be able to finish a GT against him? We all know what happened in 2014.

Statistics show that AC finishes 90+% of all the GT's he starts. 2014 was one year. Don't think that he is going to start crashing out of gt's all the time now. Maybe we should start talking about the same ole Nibali crashes every time you bring up this stupid line of reasoning.

 

[BlurryVII]

Let his ride do the talking. But the real question is: will his main rivals be able to finish a GT against him? We all know what happened in 2014.

Exactly, let the ride do the talking, last time his main rival finished a GT against him , he was something like +6:40 and +7: 35 min off the 1st place?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Exactly, let the ride do the talking, last time his main rival finished a GT against him , he was something like +6:40 and +7: 35 min off the 1st place?

Lol, good post

 

[cineteq]

Exactly, let the ride do the talking, last time his main rival finished a GT against him , he was something like +6:40 and +7: 35 min off the 1st place?

Was Nibali there? No. Your response was irrelevant to the argument. Try again.

Maybe we should start talking about the same ole Nibali crashes every time you bring up this stupid line of reasoning.

Also irrelevant, try again please

Lol, good post

Are you sure you're not blonde? LOL

 

[Angliru]

Who and when? Btw, I was talking about Quintana's capabilities. Anyway I stand for what I said: In 2015 Nairo's the only one.

Contador, Froome, and this year, Valverde. Quintana has yet to show that capability. You can do your own leg work in figuring the when.

 

[BlurryVII]

Was Nibali there? No. Your response was irrelevant to the argument. Try again.

Oh so Nibali wasn't at the Tour 09' and Giro 11'.

We learn something new everyday.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Are you sure you're not blonde? LOL

Have I ever claimed I'm not? Lol

Oh so Nibali wasn't at the Tour 09' and Giro 11'.

We learn something new everyday.

Lolol, funny stuff

 

[Jspear]

Was Nibali there? No. Your response was irrelevant to the argument. Try again.

Also irrelevant, try again please

2014 Tour is irrelevant when it comes to determining whether or not AC will beat Nibali in the 2015 Tour...so stop bringing it up. I agree that Nibali's crashes are irrelevant. That was my point in bringing them up. I was comparing that to your line of reasoning.

 

[cineteq]

2014 Tour is irrelevant when it comes to determining whether or not AC will beat Nibali in the 2015 Tour...so stop bringing it up. I agree that Nibali's crashes are irrelevant. That was my point in bringing them up. I was comparing that to your line of reasoning.

My point was that Quintana was the only one who can win 2 consecute GTs. I guess you need to go back and read again.

Have I ever claimed I'm not? Lol

Do we need to ever go on? No.

Oh so Nibali wasn't at the Tour 09' and Giro 11'.

Was he a main contender? No. Irrelevant.

 

[Jspear]

My point was that Quintana was the only one who can win 2 consecute GTs. I guess you need to go back and read again.

I responded to this post of yours:

Let his ride do the talking. But the real question is: will his main rivals be able to finish a GT against him? We all know what happened in 2014.

Quintana didn't race against VN in the 2014 Tour so obviously you were talking about AC when you made that remark - and that is the remark I was commenting on. I don't need to go back and read....I think I followed what you were saying better than you did.