Well Froome puts out numbers comparable to his 2010 win that he won on the road so if you're gonna play that game Froome would have been 2010 TDF winner if he was good then. You underestimate his TDF win so much lol, did you watch 2012 by any chance when NIBALI was init. Froome destroyed him with the handbrake on. Don't give me the Nibali has improved crap either Froome does not lose to Nibali in the mountains it just don't happen. Contador and Froome>>> Nibali even last year Nibali was almost popped on stage 8 by Contador he was barely holiding on on 2 km climb. He would been toast in the mountains.