Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Parrulo]

paulinho will ride the tour, his spot has never even been up to discussion. . .

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Paulinho, Morkov, Breschel is my guess. Tosatto and Bennati to watch out for little Majka in the giro

 

[LaFlorecita]

paulinho will ride the tour, his spot has never even been up to discussion. . .

Sorry, I must've missed that. Didn't know he was already certain. Do you remember where you read/heard this?

 

[Parrulo]

he said it on an interview for a portuguese newspaper but it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure it out.

 

[LaFlorecita]

he said it on an interview for a portuguese newspaper but it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure it out.

I disagree, Saxo has many contenders for a Tour team spot so no it doesn't have to be a sure thing.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Anyway so 2 spots left, maybe one, depends on whether Alberto wants Noval in the team or not

1 spot for Breschel, Morkov, Tosatto, Bennati, Duggan p)

My guess is the eyetalian trio ride il Giro together with Majka and Nicki and some other riders.

So Breschel, Morkov, who else?

 

[Miburo]

Anyway so 2 spots left, maybe one, depends on whether Alberto wants Noval in the team or not

1 spot for Breschel, Morkov, Tosatto, Bennati, Duggan p)

My guess is the eyetalian trio ride il Giro together with Majka and Nicki and some other riders.

So Breschel, Morkov, who else?

Wait a few months

 

[LaFlorecita]

Wait a few months

No, no, I like speculation We don't have anything else to discuss in this thread anyway

 

[Miburo]

No, no, I like speculation We don't have anything else to discuss in this thread anyway

We have T-A !!! Besides i like speculation obviously but too many factors play in right now.

 

[Jelantik]

It's just a guess but I think Breschel, Morkov and Noval. I would rather see them leaving Noval in front of the TV and take Bennati or Tosatto but we know what Alberto's like

if Alberto wants to win the Tour, he should stop playing favors for friends. He should let Bjarne picks the best performance rider right up before the tour. No spot should be a guarantee (not even for paulinho) IMHO

 

[xrayvision]

if Alberto wants to win the Tour, he should stop playing favors for friends. He should let Bjarne picks the best performance rider right up before the tour. No spot should be a guarantee (not even for paulinho) IMHO

And so it will be, as always.

 

[Miburo]

if Alberto wants to win the Tour, he should stop playing favors for friends. He should let Bjarne picks the best performance rider right up before the tour. No spot should be a guarantee (not even for paulinho) IMHO

Did you even see Paulinho ride in the vuelta? Obviously Noval is favoritsm but not paulinho.

Paulinho can be a great help, ok maybe he's a bit fat now (i've no idea, we'll see in T-A) but he should be in the team if he finds the vuelta form.

 

[Cimber]

Did you even see Paulinho ride in the vuelta? Obviously Noval is favoritsm but not paulinho.

Paulinho can be a great help, ok maybe he's a bit fat now (i've no idea, we'll see in T-A) but he should be in the team if he finds the vuelta form.

Paulinho was rather bad in the 2012 Tour though. IIRC due to allergies. And its likely that he will once a gain suffer from allergy in the same month, and if so he shouldnt get an automatic pick.

 

[Cimber]

Paulinho, Morkov, Breschel is my guess. Tosatto and Bennati to watch out for little Majka in the giro

I am pretty sure Breschel won be doing the Tour. I reckon he will ride hard in the classics and up to the NC. Then take a break and do the Vuelta + worlds.

 

[The Blues]

He won't, because he will ride the Giro after the classics. At least that's what he said in a recent interview (something like: I will first start thinking about the Giro after my classics season.).

Other than that, Mørkøv indicated that he has a good shot at the Tour (he has been getting some good signals from the management.)

 

[Parrulo]

Paulinho was rather bad in the 2012 Tour though. IIRC due to allergies. And its likely that he will once a gain suffer from allergy in the same month, and if so he shouldnt get an automatic pick.

he only rode the tour to prepare for the vuelta. . .

 

[Angliru]

just like the PN thread this just goes to show how long you have been watching cycling.

How can you comfortably criticize someone about their lack of knowledge of the sport of cycling when you're on record as saying all carbon fiber is the same? Doesn't that lessen your credibility to a certain extent?

 

[Angliru]

No, my fault. I haven't underlined or marked in any way cobbled.
I think no one's questioning Contador's ability to win LBL, FW, Il Lombardia, San Sebastian or AGR, but it seems we'll never know.
So it's just belief.

The same omnipotent view of Contador you have, had Armstrong's fans of their idol. But they were even more drastic. They've believed he could take all 5 Monuments in a season... And a TDF, off course.
In Armstrong's defense - he did target some Classics while concentrating on the Tour and rode couple of times in support of his teammates.

Wasn't Contador riding in support of Armstrong on the Ventoux stage of the 2009 Tour (against his better judgement of course)? Wasn't Contador riding in support of Vino at LBL in 2010? Wasn't Contador riding in support of at the Beijing Olympics? Contador did target Fleche Wallone one year (can't remember which) and won Milan-Torino, his first and only one day race victory (semi-classic isn't it?)?

Edit: Apologies if I'm late. My modem on my pc at home died last week.

 

[Parrulo]

are you pretending to know anything about carbon fiber because of cycling?

at the time i was too busy to even continue that discussion and i know i could have expressed myself better at the time but i didn't bother.

anyway what i know i learned from people with PhD and masters on the study of materials during my classes in college and not from the latest specialized ad campaign claiming that just because it's made on the McLaren factory the venge with the McLaren logo is worth a few thousand dollars more then the normal one, so i don't need to defend my knowledge on this one.

 

[airstream]

Wasn't Contador riding in support of Armstrong on the Ventoux stage of the 2009 Tour (against his better judgement of course)?

No, he did the stage comfrortably, without making any chunk of work for Armstrong.

Wasn't Contador riding in support of Vino at LBL in 2010?

Of course not, he played his cards, but Vino's card was stronger

Wasn't Contador riding in support of at the Beijing Olympics?

Yes.

 

[serfla]

Wasn't Contador riding in support of Armstrong on the Ventoux stage of the 2009 Tour (against his better judgement of course)? Wasn't Contador riding in support of Vino at LBL in 2010? Wasn't Contador riding in support of at the Beijing Olympics? Contador did target Fleche Wallone one year (can't remember which) and won Milan-Torino, his first and only one day race victory (semi-classic isn't it?)?

Edit: Apologies if I'm late. My modem on my pc at home died last week.

Never mind for late response.
Your comparison with Armstrong's Classic efforts are spot on, but that wasn't the point of our discussion.

 

[Netserk]

No, he did the stage comfrortably, without making any chunk of work for Armstrong.

Of course not, he played his cards, but Vino's card was stronger


Yes.

What's next? Sagan didn't help Moser win Strade either?

 

[Miburo]

What's next? Sagan didn't help Moser win Strade either?

Shows you 1 more time that he's a troll

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://www.lefigaro.fr/cyclisme/201...-contador-a-un-cote-killer-impressionnant.php

Nous n'avions jamais beaucoup discuté, juste quelques échanges de courtoisie parce que lorsqu'il est en course, il est toujours à 100%. Et ce qui m'a surpris en stage, c'est qu'il est très bavard, il donne des conseils, parle de tout et de rien. Mais ce qui est le plus impressionnant, c'est sa détermination, son côté killer, quelle que soit l'activité, qu'il s'agisse de foot, de squash ou de tir à l'arc. Il ne lâche rien. Et s'il n'y a pas de compétition, il la créée. Il aime le côté challenge. Avant Paris-Nice, il m'a parlé de mon rôle, de l'équipe, du vent, de la montagne de Lure (5e étape), de l'importance de ne pas y arriver attardé parce qu'on aurait manqué d'attention dans une bordure. Il est comme un directeur sportif. C'est un chef d'équipe. Il est au courant de tout ce qui se passe. En course, comme à l'entraînement.

GT

We never talked much, just a few exchanges of courtesy because when it is running, it is always 100%. And what surprised me by training, is that it's very talkative, he advises, talk about everything and nothing. But what is most impressive is his determination, his killer side, whatever the activity, whether it is football, squash and archery. He does not let anything. And if there is no competition, he created. He loves the challenge. Before Paris-Nice, he told me about my role on the team, the wind, the Lure mountain (Step 5), the importance of not getting there lingered because we have lacked attention in a border. It is like a sporting director. This is a team leader. He is aware of everything that happens. In racing, as in training.

 

[Pentacycle]

What did he say about Montagne de Lure?