Blurry back at it again with the insults.
2013 season was fair, no excuses for contador. Froome was better and crushed him.
2013 season was fair, no excuses for contador. Froome was better and crushed him.
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The Hitch said:Can't read?BlurryVII said:The Hitch said:2013 Tirreno?BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
What?
Red Rick said:I bumped the Froome vs Contador thread a few weeks ago, now you gents go and find it. This thread is for weight, and transfer speculation only until the Dauphine starts
Valv.Piti said:Blurry, at no point do we undermine Contador like AC-fans regularly are doing with Froome and especially Quintana. I won't be surprised if he wins and I have never, ever stated that he doesn't have any chance of winning like you have done with Quintana, fx.
BlurryVII said:The Hitch said:Can't read?BlurryVII said:The Hitch said:2013 Tirreno?BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
What?
I don't really see how your example is relevant to the discussion? Not only that it's 2013, but I was refering to GTs.
Try again.
You can't judge who is better in top shape when one of them is in good shape and the other in horrific shape.Valv.Piti said:Yup, its 2013, lets pretend that didn't happen!
I don't really see a problemLaFlorecita said:Okay I just reported the entire discussion because what the hell, guys, this is not cool.
BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
I see lots of mocking, whining and personal attacks. And singling out one poster is my biggest hate. Yes, let's all team up and take on this 1 poster. Holy ***.Gigs_98 said:I don't really see a problemLaFlorecita said:Okay I just reported the entire discussion because what the hell, guys, this is not cool.
LaFlorecita said:I see lots of mocking, whining and personal attacks. And singling out one poster is my biggest hate. Yes, let's all team up and take on this 1 poster. Holy ****.Gigs_98 said:I don't really see a problemLaFlorecita said:Okay I just reported the entire discussion because what the hell, guys, this is not cool.
Yes, amazing, maybe he can win the Dauphiné uphill prologue tooTheYouyou7 said:I made my math and i got 7w/kg for 15 minutes, obviously it's "only" after a week of race (even if it was hard...) and it was a TT but still conditions were quite bad. Anyway, brutal performance !
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/road/results-tour-of-catalunya-stage-3_164967Valv.Piti said:BlurryVII said:I don't really see how your example is relevant to the discussion? Not only that it's 2013, but I was refering to GTs.The Hitch said:2013 Tirreno?BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
Try again.
Yup, its 2013, lets pretend that didn't happen!
Laaaaaawl. Well playedRed Rick said:The Hitch said:2013 Tirreno?BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
2011 Castilla y Leon?
hrotha said:Laaaaaawl. Well playedRed Rick said:The Hitch said:2013 Tirreno?BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
2011 Castilla y Leon?
blackmamba said:ray j willings said:Data is all well and good but you have one really bad day and booooom your tour is over.
We all [ bertie fans] want Bertie to win but come the tour come Froome Quintana and bonkers Astana and those numbers mean nothing. You have to know how to suffer its that simple.
The tour is won on the road not on data figures.
I'm seriously considering switching to becoming a Foome fan ....Bertie fans on here are so nerdy its unbelievable.
Do you actually ride a bike? Its like a real click of geeks who couldn't ride alp d huez in under a hour. You absolutely have no idea. Go ride a bike FFS.
I'm going over to the dark side
Contador is superior to everyone in all areas ( tactically, strenght etc) WHEN hes in top shape so how are they gonne beat him? With superior team is the only chance if he dont crash or anything like that. (And before you mention the recent tours try to think further than your nose and logically pls. HE RODE THE GIRO before rest you should figure out yourself.
Its simple, fanboy all you want as a excuse but its pretty simply when you look at the facts I actually challenge anyone to come up with a single serious note based on facts / stats that we know of and not just your thoughts which is totally not interessting but FACTS to show otherwice, h. To be ahead of the answers again, YES HINAULT is a all time great and a huge champion but he competed at a time when it was far less competition and technology and science basically didnt exsist and he didnt keep on winning grand tours 10 years after the first one, even then so its not even close at this point.
So yes if hes TOP shape without any injuries or illness ahead of the Tour he will win, barring any incidents in the Tour ofc. But he needs to be top shape else he wont be good enough cause Froome is good!
Listen if someone beats him in a GT when hes in TOP conditions I will be the first one to admit that he no longer is number one and father time has caught up with him but untill that happens and everything else suggest otherwice it doesnt make sense to do that!
And no im not a Contador fan boy, im a cycling fan boy it just so happens that Contador happens to be the greatest GC rider of our generation and its nothing anyone can do with that.
Carols said:blackmamba said:ray j willings said:Data is all well and good but you have one really bad day and booooom your tour is over.
We all [ bertie fans] want Bertie to win but come the tour come Froome Quintana and bonkers Astana and those numbers mean nothing. You have to know how to suffer its that simple.
The tour is won on the road not on data figures.
I'm seriously considering switching to becoming a Foome fan ....Bertie fans on here are so nerdy its unbelievable.
Do you actually ride a bike? Its like a real click of geeks who couldn't ride alp d huez in under a hour. You absolutely have no idea. Go ride a bike FFS.
I'm going over to the dark side
Contador is superior to everyone in all areas ( tactically, strenght etc) WHEN hes in top shape so how are they gonne beat him? With superior team is the only chance if he dont crash or anything like that. (And before you mention the recent tours try to think further than your nose and logically pls. HE RODE THE GIRO before rest you should figure out yourself.
Its simple, fanboy all you want as a excuse but its pretty simply when you look at the facts I actually challenge anyone to come up with a single serious note based on facts / stats that we know of and not just your thoughts which is totally not interessting but FACTS to show otherwice, h. To be ahead of the answers again, YES HINAULT is a all time great and a huge champion but he competed at a time when it was far less competition and technology and science basically didnt exsist and he didnt keep on winning grand tours 10 years after the first one, even then so its not even close at this point.
So yes if hes TOP shape without any injuries or illness ahead of the Tour he will win, barring any incidents in the Tour ofc. But he needs to be top shape else he wont be good enough cause Froome is good!
Listen if someone beats him in a GT when hes in TOP conditions I will be the first one to admit that he no longer is number one and father time has caught up with him but untill that happens and everything else suggest otherwice it doesnt make sense to do that!
And no im not a Contador fan boy, im a cycling fan boy it just so happens that Contador happens to be the greatest GC rider of our generation and its nothing anyone can do with that.
Maybe you should have done a bit of research before you wrote something UNFACTUAL;
1- Hinault won GTs for 9 straight years. In 3 of those years he won 2 GTS.
2- His Lesser (NOT) competition included among others: Lucien Van Impe, Bernard Thévenet, Joop Zoetemelk, Laurent Fignon and Greg LeMond. If you don't know who these guys are I suggest you do some homework.
While I do believe Alberto belongs With the Best of stage racers of all times, to say "he is simply the greatest GT rider of all time" is ludicrous. I'm a pretty big Alberto fan girl, but I've been a Cycling fan girl for decades before Alberto showed up. He is the best Since Hinault IMO, but not the best ever.
EDIT: BTW Hinault isn't the Best Ever either, that would be one Eddy Merckx who I also saw ride.
The point I was making is that if you count the Vuelta as being the same as the Tour then why not count lesser WT races as being the same as the Vuelta?BlurryVII said:The Hitch said:Can't read?BlurryVII said:The Hitch said:2013 Tirreno?BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
What?
I don't really see how your example is relevant to the discussion? Not only that it's 2013, but I was refering to GTs.
Try again.
Taxus4a said:hrotha said:Laaaaaawl. Well playedRed Rick said:The Hitch said:2013 Tirreno?BlurryVII said:Actually, the circumstances were never as equal as they were in the Vuelta 2014 between AC and CF, that's the funniest thing.
2011 Castilla y Leon?
As well, as you know, Froome despite to be still a young rider, was in treatment those months.